F_LAT_INO - Promised Constant Win Bet (Sectors-Splits) Proving Grounds

[flukey luke]

George, I appreciate your comments. Trust me, I would love nothing more than to be wrong and made to eat humble pie. Let's hope FLAT's method turns out to be a winner, but I am afraid that may not be the case.
Allow me to show you something.

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Here is a random day I picked from the Spielbank Wiesbaden casino.
Let's assume we use a 10 step progression. 1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128,256,512.
We are betting on red every spin.
We have wins on the following spins.
9,1,2,1,2,1,1,1,1,2,3,2,2,1,1,4,5,1,2,2,1,1,1.
2,1,3,5,2,1,2,1,2,1,1,3,4,1,1,2,4,1,1,1,1,3,2,2,1.
3,1,3,1,1,1,2,3,1,3,1,1,2,4,2,1,1,2,1,1,2,3,1,4,1,8.
2,1,4,1,3,3,2,2,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,2,3,3,5,3,4,3,1,3,1,1,1,4,1,4.
1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,3,4,1,4,1,1,2,4,2,1,1,1,1,2,2,1,1,1,1.
5,1,1,6,3,4,2,2,2,1,6,1,1,2,1,2,2,1,1,3,1,1,3,5,2,1,1,3,1,1,1,2,1,1.
2,2,2,2,3,1,2,2,1,1,1.
There are 181 wins there, so you have walked out with a gain of 181 units. The closest you have come to a bust is going to step 8 once and step 9 once.
With my street system and FLAT's system, you are witnessing the same winning sequences, it is when you hit the bust, that all the profits go out the window. I hit 2 busts in a row testing FLAT's system. In my street system, I have hit about 3 busts in 5 attempts. These bad spells are hiding in the wings. Like I said, with the street system and with FLAT's system, you are not betting every spin. (on my test tonight, I did not start betting before spin 50) so it will be an even longer drawn out process than playing a straight up martingale on every spin betting red. Unfortunately, the results will probably still turn out negative in the long term because of the nasty 2.7 or 5.4 percent house edge. We just can't overcome that without an edge of some kind. The maths are in stone. You have to defeat the randomness of the game, you can't change the maths.
Looking at the chart above, it would be easy for a beginner to think the martingale is a winning system. It is only the progression which gives this illusion because it is holding of the inevitable. If you have a bit of good fortune, it would be entirely possible to get ahead by playing this way. At the same time, they will be a few unlucky people who could lose a few bankrolls from the very beginning.
I tested FLAT's system because I was interested in his concept where all the dozens and columns needed to cross, it was something  that I had not looked at before. It was a novel approach. I wish anybody luck who continues to test it and decides to play for real money.

[albertojonas]

I tested the both. In fact, i tested both systems in a row. I was testing F.Luke streets system just before this one.

I still believe Grand Martingale aproach is the only thing that can beat roulette. 
That's why casino's invented Table Limits. Otherwise there would be a lot more oportunities for we to come ahead and stop.

Firmly believe in the power of both system's bet selection.

The most common problem of every system lies within is own "system" mechanical, rigid, nature.
With some kind of human good sense, and a variety of approaches there will still be plenty of opportunities to quit while ahead.

Cheers,
Alberto Jonas

[Twisteruk]

And z score?

Flat its a program Bayes put up

Here is the link with more details

link:://rouletteforum.cc/other-software/stats-tracker-software/


I use Bayes and Ophis's Software each time I play, just to keep track  

I wont post Z-score anymore as just remembered it was for Flat betting only 

[Twisteruk]

Tracker v0.2

link:://rouletteforum.cc/other-software/constant-win-bet-tracker/msg20926/#msg20926

Awesome ophis !

Much appreciated 

[chrisbis]

George, I appreciate your comments. Trust me, I would love nothing more than to be wrong and made to eat humble pie. Let's hope FLAT's method turns out to be a winner, but I am afraid that may not be the case.
Allow me to show you something.

Here is a random day I picked from the Spielbank Wiesbaden casino.

Just a note of interest here on Lukes Spin results at Wiesbaden

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Look how even the spins were for the ..
Low/High
Even /Odd

Almost balanced out exactly!!

The red and Black are close also!!

Just an observation.
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[ophis]

I know you have changed the design a bit, but do you think the text in the betting section "furthest/recent" is a little too small now to see clearly??

Thanks for noticing this. It changed by accident  Here is corrected version.
This will be final version unless someone will request some additional options
Maybe export to Excel CSV? But please provide me with specific requests.

link:://rouletteforum.cc/other-software/constant-win-bet-tracker/msg20989/#msg20989

[Bayes]

Flat its a program Bayes put up

Here is the link with more details

link:://rouletteforum.cc/other-software/stats-tracker-software/


I use Bayes and Ophis's Software each time I play, just to keep track  

I wont post Z-score anymore as just remembered it was for Flat betting only  

Twister, z-score is valid even if you're using a progression - as long as you don't mistake profits for advantage. What I mean by that is, the z-score measures the effectiveness of the bet-selection, without taking into account any progression. So for example, you could be betting the ECs and have a sequence where you only win 5 bets out of 20; this would give you a low (negative) z-score but you still might end up with a profit (if you were using an 8 step marty).

[Twisteruk]

Twister, z-score is valid even if you're using a progression - as long as you don't mistake profits for advantage. What I mean by that is, the z-score measures the effectiveness of the bet-selection, without taking into account any progression. So for example, you could be betting the ECs and have a sequence where you only win 5 bets out of 20; this would give you a low (negative) z-score but you still might end up with a profit (if you were using an 8 step marty).

Ah ! Ok, thanx Bayes 

Appreciate the clarification 

[GLC]

George, I appreciate your comments. Trust me, I would love nothing more than to be wrong and made to eat humble pie. Let's hope FLAT's method turns out to be a winner, but I am afraid that may not be the case.

FL, 

I know that we have not eliminated the house advantage.  I also know that some will lose with this system even if most happen to win just because of the luck factor.

I appreciate your observations and understand where you're coming from.  I just feel like FLAT has used this system for over 3 years and have won with it consistently.

I know that there is a probability that even that was lucky since in the overall scheme of things even 3 years can represent a favorable sequence, howbeit a very long sequence.

Your warning does not go unnoticed.

I want to re-iterate that I have not had the time to play the recent method and so can only say that I still feel the safest method to play this is the original way, and maybe the 1-1-2-2-3-3-4-4-5-5 is still the safest progression.

George

[albertojonas]

Recent is the hype!

i play it with new flatino airball rulles... no rulles on trigger after 1st miss on a good trigger.

even flat is getting wild...

lol

play it with grand Martingale as usual

[jordan69]

The real hype !

Resuts are impressive 

[GLC]

Recent is the hype!

i play it with new F_LAT_INO airball rulles... no rulles on trigger after 1st miss on a good trigger.

even flat is getting wild...

LoL

play it with grand Martingale as usual

Alberto,

That 6th step makes the hair stand up on the back of my neck.

Whatever you do, don't tell the Mrs. that I recommended that.  (Unless it wins, then I'll take some of the credit.)

George

[albertojonas]

Embrace the Madness...
The quest goes on

[chrisbis]

Lot of Green Goblin in there Our Kid??

I can help with that Little beast if U like!!

bet U wished U had put a little make-up on and
covered it zero with a little insurance money eh!!

[albertojonas]

Lot of Green Goblin in there Our Kid??

I can help with that Little beast if you like!!

bet you wished you had put a little make-up on and
covered it zero with a little insurance money eh!!

what is your advice chrisbis?