Turbo, KTF and the trot; all are here, Vaddi?

[nottophammer]

If you can't see it then play another game of chance, or join the general looking for wobbly wheels.



Turbo colour coded for you. Lets jump to spin 27; #6 has hit again, so you could bet 6-1-24 find your staking , win #6 spin 29.
Now me i'd bet just #6, for a bt of curve fitting General. But i'd have to bet #1 as well, but win with #6 spin 35.

You've been told how non-hit come on average and this is showing the trot.

This will only be here untill the pic host goes again, then gone forever

[Alan B]

I'm with you 100%, I'd bet 1, 6, 24

[Steve]

Notto, are you saying that once a number hits that it has a better than random chance of hitting again? I dont want to appear "negative". It's just a simple question.

[nottophammer]

Steve i look to 40 spins then up to 60 spins.
So these 60 spins give some results of what is happening with your 1/37
Take a look at the checkpoints in all the Non-hit time tables; even the one that has your best mate's 10'000 spins broke into cycles of 185 spins. The average is the same.

It's all i need to know that the average is the same from those time tables; the average is 15 non-hit happen in spins 11-40; more often than not.

The laughable LOTT show's in the time tables; and best of all is old Generals spins gives this as well.

And the above test shows the average for spins 1-10; the 9/10, its there, it happens.

[nottophammer]

Steve at 12:15 am today Jackpot 247 starts. Now i tape the show and re-run the spins after 8 am.
Gzgzbee might tape the show; i don't know, but i'll post the green tester Bombus likes later today.

Who knows it might be 10/10 or the 9/10 might show.


The opening 10 spins; the 10/10 has shown more than i'd like, but over all the 9/10 is the common result.

[jono1167]

I'm with you Notto. This forum offers some great information on a variety of systems... KTF is surely one of the best.

I'm still plugging away but no disasters to report. 

Cheers Notto

[Steve]

But you're not understanding the averages come from the 1 in 37.

What you're saying is just like saying the first dozen will spin 1 in 3 times, and in X amount of spins it will repeat.

The math you dont appear to understand is this:

ON SPIN 1: There's a 1 in 37 chance a number will spin (this never changes). Say number 32 won.
ON SPIN 2: Number 2 won. There are now TWO unique numbers. There's a 2/37 chance the next spin will be a repeater.
ON SPIN 3: Number 12 won. There are now THREE unique numbers. There's a 3/37 chance the next spin will be a repeater.
ON SPIN 4: Number 32 won. That's the first repeater. It had and still has 1 in 37 odds of spinning next. NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

So the more spins we have, the more unique numbers we have, and the greater the chance of a repeater.

This is basic math and probability.

Your bet selection method is changing nothing. It just appears you aren't understanding the math.

Can you tell me what about the above I'm missing or not understanding? Where am I wrong?

[The General]

What I think also dupes so many of the less experienced players is that many of these free mode sites have unlimited max betting.  Consequently the players can just keep increasing their bets (as they lose) until they finally hit and show a profit.  Other free mode plays will give you bonuses just for signing in which enables you to win money, even if you don't play! 


Right now I'm sure there are countless players (suckers) looking for "just the right progressions" to make their latest systems work.

[Madi]

Are you on weed or meth? Seriously? From which angle you think that you are professional? You rarely win penny and try to show people cover story. Idiot

[The General]

The law of the third doesn't really exist. Some VB friends of mine are actually responsible for much of the hyped nonsense behind it. They claimed that they were using "Phillip's Law of The Third" when they were arrested in the UK back in the early 80s. It was a cover story, nothing more. One of the guys claimed that he was a brilliant mathematician and that he'd invented it and had named it after himself. To this day he laughs about how people still get sucked into it after having read the news stories. People like Notto are merely some of the suckers that got sucked into the hype that has been passed down from person to person after all these years.

In reality the so called law of the third refers to the normal distribution of the numbers over a series of 37 or 38 spins. Over those spins some numbers will hit a few times or more, some twice, some once, and some not at all. The reason behind it is very simple. There are more ways for the numbers to hit in such a sequence than there are for all of the numbers to only hit once. Unfortunately you have no way of knowing which numbers will continue hitting and which numbers will suddenly stop hitting since the same number of pockets remain on the wheel from one spin to the next.

For the record, my favorite cover story is to tell gaming and others that I merely exploit regression to the mean and the law of large numbers. Again, it's just a cover story, but I suspect Notto will be picking it up in a few years as the news gets out there.

[Madi]

Right now I'm sure there are countless players (suckers) looking for "just the right progressions" to make their latest systems work.

So whats wrong? Did anyone play with your fathers money?

Who the hell are you to call people “sucker”.  Dont push . We heard you and understand you. Your job done. Go find broken wheel and earn .

No one will work for you. Go to casino and start collecting spin

[Madi]

For the record, my favorite cover story is to tell gaming and others that I merely exploit regression to the mean and the law of large numbers. Again, it's just a cover story, but I suspect Notto will be picking it up in a few years as the news gets out there.

Learn to earn first then think about cover story.

[The General]

So whats wrong? Did anyone play with your fathers money?

Who the hell are you to call people “sucker”.  Dont push . We heard you and understand you. Your job done. Go find broken wheel and earn .

No one will work for you. Go to casino and start collecting spin

Actually I work with a few people from this forum.  One of them full time now.

[Steve]

Are you on weed or meth? Seriously? From which angle you think that you are professional? You rarely win penny and try to show people cover story. Idiot

Whether or not Caleb is a professional player is not a consideration for me. My professional opinion of him is based on his knowledge.

Based on what he posts..... he knows what he's talking about. He is correct, and I agree with almost everything he says. Compare that to typical members of any gambling forum, who make huge mistakes even with basic probability.

These are the types of members who take it personally when people highlight mistakes, or think the knowledgeable member is just being "negative".

Don't confuse truth with negativity. And dont confuse opinion with verifiable fact.

[Madi]

We understand he is correct. Still people wants to learn in their way. No point to call people sucker , forumtard etc etc and keep insulting . We heard what he said, some will accept some will not.

If he wants some free worker he should open his thread , discuss what he knows and invite people. Not kicking people butt again and again.