Beating the even money

[Winner]

last question...am i right the inside numbers ..this is how you got to the winning amounts per lines in your example ?..so 2,s no switches..

No it was not I was only play outside .

[Winner]

Here this would be the results from one of my session
121111222221212121=9 betting even money only 2s
Betting all the numberthat has shown only 
Profit is $108 flat betting.

[Mako]

We need Precogmiles to come into this thread and remove view Winner's notebook with the 30 sequences...

6th-Sense is right though: miniroll if you can you should code a ton of raw chops/streaks and have the output data show you the most common and least common sequences/combinations.  I think that's the only way we're going to start drilling down that magic 30....

[Winner]

We need Precogmiles to come into this thread and remove view Winner's notebook with the 30 sequences...

6th-Sense is right though: miniroll if you can you should code a ton of raw chops/streaks and have the output data show you the most common and least common sequences/combinations.  I think that's the only way we're going to start drilling down that magic 30....

I like that Mako magic 30

[miniroll171]

We need Precogmiles to come into this thread and remove view Winner's notebook with the 30 sequences...

6th-Sense is right though: miniroll if you can you should code a ton of raw chops/streaks and have the output data show you the most common and least common s equences/combinations.  I think that's the only way we're going to start drilling down that magic 30....

Hi Mako, yeah I was thinking about doing that but then I thought if I ask it to look for the sequence ‘112’ and see how often it is followed by a 1 or a 2, would it not be about 50/50? So the sequence 1121 would appear just as often as 1122?

Winner has given us 30 sequences and I believe with a 8 digit sequence of 2 numbers there is 256 possible combinations? So I’m not really sure if the Magic 30 would have any reason to appear more than any others?

Maybe Winner could give us a hint as to why those 30?

But yeah I might see if I can run it as a test just for fun. So I would run say, 1 million games and count all the   possible 8 digit sequences that appear and then list them in order of frequency? 

[miniroll171]

One more thought on the way Winners system might work.

So he starts betting on 2's and waits for maybe a pattern of 4 to appear. As an example I will use one of the results he posted:

111222222022112211=10 +2

So you can see the first 4 out are 1112. So starting at the top of his patterns we go down till we find a 1112.

On the second line we see it  21 [1112] 22

So he bets 2 for the next round and wins.

Now the last four are 1222. So looking down the rows we find it at the end of row 12:
12-221 [1222] 2
So next he would bet on a 2 and so on.

Am I on the right track Winner or barking up the wrong tree?

1-12211212
2-21111222
3-11212212
4-12111112
5-22211211
6-22111211
7-12211221
8-21212111
9-11221211
10-22222222
11-22212221
12-22112222

[Winner]

Hi Mako, yeah I was thinking about doing that but then I thought if I ask it to look for the sequence ‘112’ and see how often it is followed by a 1 or a 2, would it not be about 50/50? So the sequence 1121 would appear just as often as 1122?

Winner has given us 30 sequences and I believe with a 8 digit sequence of 2 numbers there is 256 possible combinations? So I’m not really sure if the Magic 30 would have any reason to appear more than any others?

Maybe Winner could give us a hint as to why those 30?

But yeah I might see if I can run it as a test just for fun. So I would run say, 1 million games and count all the   possible 8 digit sequences that appear and then list them in order of frequency? 

Don’t bother with 1 million that’s a waist of time I have tried something similar it’s not predictable.

[Winner]

I m reading some other systems on the forum  and the end result is o I think all those winning is just luck . Then  in my opinion it doesn’t work a system should be tested and manipulated until it works .
Computers do they work yes and no but it’s not based on luck and your system should do the same.

[miniroll171]

I m reading some other systems on the forum  and the end result is o I think all those winning is just luck . Then  in my opinion it doesn’t work a system should be tested and manipulated until it works .
Computers do they work yes and no but it’s not based on luck and your system should do the same.

That’s the way I see it. I get all the   points that the ball has no memory, unfair payouts, house edge, blah, blah, blah, etc, etc,  but there has to be some way to beat it! 

[Mako]

I m reading some other systems on the forum  and the end result is o I think all those winning is just luck . Then  in my opinion it doesn’t work a system should be tested and manipulated until it works .
Computers do they work yes and no but it’s not based on luck and your system should do the same.

Agree, though I'd put it at 99.9% are luck/dancing between the raindrops, while one out of every thousand is actually performing over time for whatever reason. 

Let's say you're winning, and you continue to win for the rest of the year.  And lets say two other people on the forum who I won't name are also winning, have been winning for most of 2018, and win throughout 2019.

That's three methods that are working, for now, over time, over a significant amount of spins...out of say 3000 total methods posted here and VLS and the other major forums the past decade? 

So one in a thousand...and one of you three will fail by the end of 2019, you were dancing between the raindrops, it was just an outlier lucky run that does occur, remember Steve's example of a fallacy system he had run for over a year that won...right up until it lost.

But that does leave two of you, two who will win past 2019, who will grow a bankroll large enough to walk away at a profit whenever doomsday comes...if it ever does. 

[Winner]

Agree, though I'd put it at 99.9% are luck/dancing between the raindrops, while one out of every thousand is actually performing over time for whatever reason. 

Let's say you're winning, and you continue to win for the rest of the year.  And lets say two other people on the forum who I won't name are also winning, have been winning for most of 2018, and win throughout 2019.

That's three methods that are working, for now, over time, over a significant amount of spins...out of say 3000 total methods posted here and VLS and the other major forums the past decade? 

So one in a thousand...and one of you three will fail by the end of 2019, you were dancing between the raindrops, it was just an outlier lucky run that does occur, remember Steve's example of a fallacy system he had run for over a year that won...right up until it lost.

But that does leave two of you, two who will win past 2019, who will grow a bankroll large enough to walk away at a profit whenever doomsday comes...if it ever does. 

Any sytem will lose be it computer ,VB,or whatever but can you be way head with Bank roll where  the loss does not effect it .that’s the key.
Blackjack players/card counters  lose all the time but can they be a head financially.

[Winner]

Don’t fear losing ,yes it sucks but if you have a great system like mine no fear magic 30 is here lol

[Winner]

Step 1 bet selection
Step 2 progression
Step 3 when to know how to switch systems
Step 4 putting all together.

[Winner]

21212221201212122201=11+2
121201212111012212101=7-7 progression needed
211122222222211221=12+6
+15 with appropriate switches and progression
I won’t be posting anymore results.
So just keep at boys you’ll get it .
Maybe I’ll write a book from  the last 20 years .anyways it’s been nice to share this with you all.
Good luck o ya you don’t need it with this.

[luckyfella]

I played red black reorganised to 1,2 like winner. Yes, waiting gamblers fallacy that the math boyz say lose itlr. General say it's luck. With math, luck seems to follow me. Strange ?

Note that math works in all locations and all formats.