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Beating the even money

Started by Winner, Jan 23, 10:45 AM 2019

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atlantis

Hee Hee! :) Simple system for betting LAST 2 'pair' results: 1-2, 1-1, 2-1 and 2-2 to repeat in exactly the same order.
I use 10 sessions of winner's past results posted earlier.

1
2
1 w
1 L
1 w
1 w
2 L
2 L
2 w
2 w
2 w
1 L
2 w
1 w
2 w
1 w
2 w
1 w  = +8


2
1
2 w
1 w
2 w
2 L
2 w
1 L
2 w
0==
1 w
2 w
1 w
2 w
1 w
2 w
2 L
2 w
0==
1 L   = +7 (half-stake returns on 0's)


1
2
1 w
2 w
0==
1 w
2 w
1 w
2 w
1 L
1 L
1 w
0==
1 w
2 L
2 L
1 L
2 w
1 w
0==
1 L = +2.5 (half-stake returns on 0's)


2
1
1 L
1 w
2 L
2 L
2 w
2 w
2 w
2 w
2 w
2 w
2 w
1 L
1 L
2 L
2 L
1 L  = +0

2
2
2 w
1 L
1 L
2 L
1 w
2 w
2 L
2 w
1 L
1 L
1 w
1 w
1 w
2 L
2 L
1 L  = -2

1
2
2 L
1 L
2 w
2 w
2 w
1 L
0==
2 w
1 w
1 L
2 L
1 w
1 L
0 L
2 L
2 L
1 L
2 w  = -3.5  (half-stake returns on 0's)




1
1
2 L
1 w
2 w
1 w
1 L
2 L
2 L
1 L
1 L
1 w
1 w
2 L
1 w
1 L
1 w
2 w = +0

2
1
1 L
1 w
1 w
1 w
1 w
2 L
1 w
2 w
2 L
2 w
1 L
2 w
2 L
1 L
1 L
1 w   = +2
 

2
1
2 w
2 L
2 w
0==
2 w
0==
1 L
2 w
1 w
1 L
2 L
1 w
1 L
0==
1 w
2 L
1 w
1 L
2 L  = -1.5 (half-stake returns on 0's)


2
2
1 L
1 L
1 w
1 w
1 w
1 w
2 L
2 L
2 w
2 w
0==
2 w
1 L
2 w
2 L
1 L
2 w  = +1.5 (half-stake returns on 0's)

TOTAL = +14 (flatbetting)

Probably just luck...? Still I showed it to win! :)

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

The General

Quote from: Winner on Feb 24, 04:53 PM 2019
21212221201212122201=11+2
121201212111012212101=7-7 progression needed
211122222222211221=12+6
+15 with appropriate switches and progression
I won’t be posting anymore results.
So just keep at boys you’ll get it .
Maybe I’ll write a book from  the last 20 years .anyways it’s been nice to share this with you all.
Good luck o ya you don’t need it with this.

Winner,

Where's the proof of concept?  What are the logical reasons that it should work?  The math?

By the way, a progression can't turn a losing system into a winning system in the long run.
Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

atlantis

Quote from: atlantis on Feb 25, 11:50 AM 2019
Hee Hee! :) Simple system for betting LAST 2 'pair' results: 1-2, 1-1, 2-1 and 2-2 to repeat in exactly the same order.
I use 10 sessions of winner's past results posted earlier.

Oops- I complicate rules unnecessarily! :)
Results obtained by simply betting for penultimate 'pair result' to occur (last but one pair result)
- - In which case maybe use target and progression from "10 days in Monte Carlo" book pdf? :)
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Winner

Quote from: The General on Feb 25, 11:56 AM 2019
Winner,

Where's the proof of concept?  What are the logical reasons that it should work?  The math?

By the way, a progression can't turn a losing system into a winning system in the long run.
Who says

Winner

General Show me the math cause last I check your kind of play still pays 35 to 1

The General

Basic probability and The General are your friend.
(Now hiring minions, apply within.)

atlantis

Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Winner

Quote from: The General on Feb 25, 12:21 PM 2019
Mathematicians like Dr. Edward Thorp.
It’s called countermeasures. I ve see what happens to card counters and it’s illegal to where concealed devices. I have a roulette computer and my sytem is easier anyone can use it you don’t have to be a MIT 🤓
1+1 =2 for me I think I no math

Winner

Quote from: The General on Feb 25, 12:21 PM 2019
Mathematicians like Dr. Edward Thorp.
Hers my math
12210121111202112121-7 profit +2
21112201212211212222=0 profit +6
1122112212122122211+2
112122220121120011121-4
2112211202221111111. -6 profit +4
221222122221211111 +0 profit +6
112122212221121111 +0 profit +1
21121212121212111111-5 +1
1211101212122122121-2 profit +5
Total +27 I didn’t even break a 😓 that’s  my math

buffalowizard

With all due respect "winner" , his point is valid because anyone can post endless winning sessions without giving the full system. These roulette forums have been full of semi systems that promise so much but are never fully discovered (see 120+ pages of Vaddi etc)
That's the kicker. As soon as the cat is out the bag, it'll be tested and run through thousands of spins until it loses , you know this - but you shouldn't see this as a dent to your reputation. 
Issue is this, you wont tell anyone if they finally "get it". So the whole excerise is one big merry go round

Winner

Any ways I’m not really interested in what u have to say Mr General go and win your way and I’ll win mine

Winner

Quote from: buffalowizard on Feb 25, 01:33 PM 2019
With all due respect "winner" , his point is valid because anyone can post endless winning sessions without giving the full system. These roulette forums have been full of semi systems that promise so much but are never fully discovered (see 120+ pages of Vaddi etc)
That's the kicker. As soon as the cat is out the bag, it'll be tested and run through thousands of spins until it loses , you know this - but you shouldn't see this as a dent to your reputation. 
Issue is this, you wont tell anyone if they finally "get it". So the whole excerise is one big merry go round
Merry go round  don’t no about that
You have a bet selection
You have progression and all the switches
Sorry if you can’t manage to put a winning bet together it’s all there .

atlantis

12210121111202112121-7 profit +2

Can anyone tell me how he gets +2 even using his progression 1-1-1-2-4-8-16-32-64. Struggling to understand...

A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

buffalowizard

Quote from: atlantis on Feb 25, 02:20 PM 2019
12210121111202112121-7 profit +2

Can anyone tell me how he gets +2 even using his progression 1-1-1-2-4-8-16-32-64. Struggling to understand...

A.

No one knows exactly how he plays and he aint tellin' , so it's fruitless.

Mako

The "Magic 30©" are an illusive bunch...they are hidden in the shadows, yet fully exposed under in sun simultaneously.... >:D

We'll get there.  It will take time, and thread bumps, and many eyes smarter than the two eyes typing this post to nail them down, but I do feel Winner has given enough examples that we can break it down eventually.

Rome wasn't built in a day.  All we can do is enjoy the journey, try looking at it from various angles.  :thumbsup:

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