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Beating the even money

Started by Winner, Jan 23, 10:45 AM 2019

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Winner

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Quote from: Winner on Mar 07, 04:17 PM 2019
ok good
211 is your first 3 👍🏼
Now I usually start to bet against the next five on those from #2 pattern.
When you Get a win look back at the next 3  and now how to apply the switch .
Scroll down from where you first started an look for the next 3 that matches your results  an so on . Now how simple is that play Random  with random .
Now there’s one extra step to make the decision more random and that is .when you win is it a 1 or a 2 I use
1 for  betting against and
2 bet the same to make a decision for me .
So that now it’s roulette that makes the decision right through I’m just the observer.get it.

very interesting  :thumbsup:

about against and repeat: for example if you win this pattern 2 1 1 2 then next pattern you will bet for repeat, do I understand correct?  Many thanks

Mister Eko

Thanks for the t eachings Winner.

So if I have these numbers:

1,1,2,2,2,1,1,1,1,1,

The first 3 numebr is 1 1 2. This first 3 numebr matching with line 3. The next 5 numebr is 12212, but u said, usually you bet against, so the opponent numebrs are 2 1 1 2 1. So we win in the first bet. +1, but I have a question, that if it lose, do you use progression, or you use if you at -4?

So we won, and we retrack our last 3  numbers? 1 2 2. And we again find a match with the first 3 numbers of our magic 30 from start line 1?  It is not totally clear for me.

SWEET

Quote from: Winner on Feb 10, 11:25 AM 2019
Here are the splits on runs and chops in 18 series either way.

9/9
10/8
11/7
12/6
13/5
14/4
15/3
16/2 never seen
17/1never seen
18/0 never seen

   
Hi Winner,
The limit,  of at least 3, is something to ponder!
We build a progression that can survive at least 3/18..vs., 15/18

atlantis

Ok Let me get this right...

We are not betting just for the 2's as before and then switching to a pattern when -4 or thereabouts anymore?

Instead we note the last 3 outcomes and we consult the patterns and find the first line where the 3 results match those outcomes. We then proceed to bet AGAINST the remaining 5 results on that line...

On a win we again check the last 3 results and find the earliest line BELOW the one we're currently on for a match. Once found we again bet FOR or AGAINST the remaining 5 results of that pattern  - depending upon whether the last win was a 1 (bet against) or a 2 (bet repeat) until another win.... then same procedure again... etc..

Yes? Ok - got it so far!

And all of this so far is flatbetting - presumably until some kind of minus situation?

So - now what happens if there is NOT a win inside 5 bets?

Do you continue to go down to start of next line or use the last 3 results to find a new pattern in which case do you increase your bets with the progression? And, because it a LOSS, do you bet FOR or AGAINST in that case on the remaining 5 of the new pattern?

As I understand it during play and betting you never go UPWARDS through the patterns only DOWNWARDS - so I presume when you've reached the last pattern (30) you begin searching again from pattern 1??? But please correct if I am wrong on that.

So you see there are still many questions and ambiguity on how to operate it - very important that everyone is following the same way for consistency in findings and results...

I would like to thank you for sharing again - but this seem different to what you were doing before - but I like the random nature of it anyhow. Good Luck.

A.

Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Winner

Quote from: Winner on Mar 07, 04:17 PM 2019
ok good
211 is your first 3 👍🏼
Now I usually start to bet against the next five on those from #2 pattern.
When you Get a win look back at the next 3  and now how to apply the switch .
Scroll down from where you first started an look for the next 3 that matches your results  an so on . Now how simple is that play Random  with random .
Now there’s one extra step to make the decision more random and that is .when you win is it a 1 or a 2 I use
1 for  betting against and
2 bet the same to make a decision for me .
So that now it’s roulette that makes the decision right through I’m just the observer.get it.
Atlantis it’s all here
Progression is personal I don’t know your financial situation .
At first I used flat bet for the first 4 and theMarty. now I just use  straight Marty 124816.
And yes scroll down the list and when your at the end start from the 1
Hope that helps

Winner

Quote from: SWEET on Mar 08, 01:42 AM 2019
Hi Winner,
The limit,  of at least 3, is something to ponder!
We build a progression that can survive at least 3/18..vs., 15/18
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Yes this is true

atlantis

OK - the main thing I'd like to know and I ask again: What happens after a 5-step loss? whether it be 5-step Flat OR 5-step Progression....?
Start again? Take the last 3 results and find a new pattern below? Carry on down to next line and start from position 1?  And do we bet FOR or AGAINST the remaining 5 after a LOSS??
Sorry, I cannot find reference to that.
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Winner

Quote from: atlantis on Mar 08, 09:26 AM 2019
OK - the main thing I'd like to know and I ask again: What happens after a 5-step loss? whether it be 5-step Flat OR 5-step Progression....?
Start again? Take the last 3 results and find a new pattern below? Carry on down to next line and start from position 1?  And do we bet FOR or AGAINST the remaining 5 after a LOSS??
Sorry, I cannot find reference to that.
A.
Let me ask you a ? What would you do if you lost 5 in a row

atlantis

Quote from: Winner on Mar 08, 09:47 AM 2019
Let me ask you a ? What would you do if you lost 5 in a row

You answer a question with another question - Ok - I'll play along for awhile in the hope that you will address my enquiries...

Well it would depend if those were 5 1u bets - which might be recoverable....
But if it were a 5 step marti 1-2-4-8-16 I would stop  after -31    (-36 if I lost the flatbets beforehand as well)
and it CAN HAPPEN as we all know. :)

So what would you do winner? Play on or Stop? Let's say you play 5x1u bets and lose on the very first pattern?
Stop or Play on? If play on - please answer my previous post question. It not so much the financial I'm concerned with as to the correct rule of play after 5 L's in a row! That's all. You tell what to do after a win - but what if a 5-loss?
A.
Thru the darkness of Future Past the magician longs to see. One chants out between two worlds:
"Fire -- Walk with me!"

Winner

Quote from: atlantis on Mar 08, 10:06 AM 2019
You answer a question with another question - Ok - I'll play along for awhile in the hope that you will address my enquiries...

Well it would depend if those were 5 1u bets - which might be recoverable....
But if it were a 5 step marti 1-2-4-8-16 I would stop  after -31    (-36 if I lost the flatbets beforehand as well)
and it CAN HAPPEN as we all know. :)

So what would you do winner? Play on or Stop? Let's say you play 5x1u bets and lose on the very first pattern?
Stop or Play on? If play on - please answer my previous post question. It not so much the financial I'm concerned with as to the correct rule of play after 5 L's in a row! That's all. You tell what to do after a win - but what if a 5-loss?
A.
LLLLL-31
But my bankroll is +3599 /1
So now you answer my ?
What happens is you fail to read .
I will repeat my self fir the last time
Progression 1111 2481632 until your bank grows then drop the  first 3 .you should be able to grow BR before losing 10 in  a row
Stop win +4


Winner

Atlantis if you want I can share my A4 strategy this is  with a 1,2 progression

Firefox

Winner, you sound like another graduate from the Priyanka school of roulette.

She always won too, so she said, but when asked something she would reply with "the answer is there to see" or reply with a riddle, or just answer a question with another question!

boyd30

I say thank you Winner! I guess we have a pretty good picture of it. Now we can test and see how it goes.

Winner

Quote from: Firefox on Mar 08, 11:37 AM 2019
Winner, you sound like another graduate from the Priyanka school of roulette.

She always won too, so she said, but when asked something she would reply with "the answer is there to see" or reply with a riddle, or just answer a question with another question!
I do lose but I win more

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