Beating the even money

[mohitomish]

My Agaianst, and Same betting type works not bad, but you must know when to switch. I choose 222 and 111 no bet because of long series of 1111111 or 2222222 or 111222111222. Rather no bet. But see when I switch.


2,2,1, (A) 2,2,1, -3 A 1,1,2, +0 A 2,1,1, +1 S 2,1,2, +2 S 1,2,1, +5 A 2,2,1, +4 S 1,1,2, +2 A 2,2,2, +3 nb 1,1,1, nb 2,1,1, A 2,2,1, +2 S 2,2,1, +5 A 1,1,2, +8 A 2,1,2, +7 S 2,1,2, +10 A 2,2,2, nb

Flatbet +10

Hi Eko,

U r not following the rules u posted before.  after the first losses and u r -3,  u should have played ASS but u played AAS,  Can i know why?

[Colin67]

How about do some tests using Parlay 31

Win two in a row makes a new high in this parley progression.

1 1 1 2 2 4 4 8 8 - 31 unit bankroll

Nine chances to hit two in a row.

Example betting Red:

Bet R 1u - Loss -1
Bet R 1u - Loss -2
Bet R 1u - Loss -3
Bet R 2u - Loss -5
Bet R 2u - Loss -7
Bet R 4u - Win  -3 Parley the win and bet 8u
Bet R 8u - Win  +5 New High Restart
(If we lost the Parley bet ex. Bet R 8u - Loss -11 then we continue with progression)
Bet R 4u - Win -7 Parley the win
Bet R 8u - Win +1 New High Restart
(If we lost the Parley bet ex. Bet R 8u - Loss -15 then we continue with progression)
Bet R 8u - Loss -23
Bet R 8u - Win -15 Parley the win
Bet R 16u - Win +1

Do not count the parley bet as a step in the progression.

How about combining the dlembert with the parlay so up 1 if you lose then when you win you parlay the bet,and if the parlay bet is lost you move up 1 again ?

[poluvolo]

YES  I agree
even  Mister eko is very kindly guy and answer to my privet question
still I am very confused about his method rules
I WISH POST HIS METHOD RULES FOR LAST TIME AND BE MORE CLEARLY
BCAUSE  HIS BET SELECTION IS VERY INTERSTING
cheers

[boyd30]

Thanks Andre Chass for GLC method. I decided to test that too on Mr Eko's number. Good start and max unit to bet so far for this was 3 units. Not the same high as previous method, but lower stake.

[Andre Chass]

Thanks Andre Chass for GLC method. I decided to test that too on Mr Eko's number. Good start and max unit to bet so far for this was 3 units. Not the same high as previous method, but lower stake.

[Andre Chass]

Thanks for posting this Andre...

Previously we have been using something very similar, except Atlantis called it 'best of five' - Instead of seven steps, there were five. The seven steps seems to be safer because you don't have to move up as quickly. 

Great info - I will test this with Mister Eko's numbers.

I hate using a progression, but since I don't have a HG, I'm forced to use one.

Cheers

Post the results here

[jono1167]

Toughest session yet..... see results below....

2,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL  (+40) -7 fb
2,2,2 - 2  W  (+44) -6 fb
2,1,2 - 0,1,2  LLW  (+42) -7 fb
1,0,1 - 1  W  (+46) -6 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W  (+47) -5 fb
2,1,2 - 1,1,1  LLL  (+41) -8 fb
2,2,1 - 1,1,2  LLW  (+38) -8 fb
1,1,2 - 1   W  (+43) -7 fb
1,2,1 - 2,2,1  LLW   (+40) -8 fb 
1,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL  (+22) -11 fb
1,1,1 - 2,2,1  LLW  (+15) -12 fb
2,2,2 - 1,2  LW  (+16) -13 fb
1,1,2 -,2,2,2  LLL. (-14) -16 fb
1,1,1 - 1    W (-2) -15 fb
0,1,2,2 - 2  W (+9) -14 fb
1,2,0,1 - 1  W (+19) -13 fb
2,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+20) -13 fb
2,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+21) -13 fb
1,1,0,0,1 - 1  W (+30) -12 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W  (+38) -11 fb
0,1,1,2 - 2,2,1  LLW (+32) -14 fb
1,1,1 - 2,2,1  LLW  (+25) -15 fb
2,2,2 - 2  W (34) -14 fb
1,1,2 - 2,1  LW (+26) -14 fb
2,2,1 - 1,1,2  LLW (+29) -15 fb
2,1,2 - 1,1,2  LLW (+21) -16 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W (+31) -15 fb
1,1,1 - 2,1  LW  (+30) -15 fb       
2,1,0,1 - 2,2,2  LLL  (+0) -18 fb
2,2,2 - 1,2  LW (+1) -18 fb
2,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL. (-40) -21 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W. (-25) -20 fb
1,1,2 - 2,2,1  LLW  (-28) -21 fb
0,1,1,2 - 1  W  (-13) -20 fb
1,1,2 - 2,1  LW (-12) -20 fb
0,1,2,1 - 0,1  LW (-11) -20 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W (+3) -19 fb
1,1,1 - 2,2,1  LLW (-9) -20 fb
2,2,2 - 1,2  LW (-8) -20 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W  (+6) -19 fb
1,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL. (-36) -22 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W (-20) -21 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W (-5) -20 fb
2,2,1 - 2  W (+9) -19 fb
1,2,1 - 1  W (+22) -18 fb
1,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+23) -18 fb
2,1,1 - 1  W (+35) -17 fb
2,2,2 - 2 W  (+46) -16 fb
2,1,1 - 2,2,2   LLL (+40) -19 fb
2,2,2 - 1,1,2  LLW (+37) -20 fb
1,2,2 - 1,2  LW  (+38) -20 fb
2,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+39) -20 fb
1,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+40) -20 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W (+45) -19 fb
1,1,2 - 0,1  LW (+46) -18 fb
1,2,2 - 2  W (+50) -17 fb
1,1,1 - 1   W  (+53) -16 fb
2,2,1 - 1 W (+55) -15 fb

Total profit: +55 units (This session +9)
Flat bet -15 (This session -11).

I won’t be able to salvage the flat-bet but that’s ok.... I plan to use a conservative progression.

No more testing the ‘Dominant 3’. I’m happy the system has proved itself against a tough set of numbers.

I’m now going to test some of the other systems against Mr Eko’s numbers.
😊

[Andre Chass]

Toughest session yet..... see results below....

2,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL  (+40) -7 fb
2,2,2 - 2  W  (+44) -6 fb
2,1,2 - 0,1,2  LLW  (+42) -7 fb
1,0,1 - 1  W  (+46) -6 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W  (+47) -5 fb
2,1,2 - 1,1,1  LLL  (+41) -8 fb
2,2,1 - 1,1,2  LLW  (+38) -8 fb
1,1,2 - 1   W  (+43) -7 fb
1,2,1 - 2,2,1  LLW   (+40) -8 fb 
1,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL  (+22) -11 fb
1,1,1 - 2,2,1  LLW  (+15) -12 fb
2,2,2 - 1,2  LW  (+16) -13 fb
1,1,2 -,2,2,2  LLL. (-14) -16 fb
1,1,1 - 1    W (-2) -15 fb
0,1,2,2 - 2  W (+9) -14 fb
1,2,0,1 - 1  W (+19) -13 fb
2,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+20) -13 fb
2,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+21) -13 fb
1,1,0,0,1 - 1  W (+30) -12 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W  (+38) -11 fb
0,1,1,2 - 2,2,1  LLW (+32) -14 fb
1,1,1 - 2,2,1  LLW  (+25) -15 fb
2,2,2 - 2  W (34) -14 fb
1,1,2 - 2,1  LW (+26) -14 fb
2,2,1 - 1,1,2  LLW (+29) -15 fb
2,1,2 - 1,1,2  LLW (+21) -16 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W (+31) -15 fb
1,1,1 - 2,1  LW  (+30) -15 fb       
2,1,0,1 - 2,2,2  LLL  (+0) -18 fb
2,2,2 - 1,2  LW (+1) -18 fb
2,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL. (-40) -21 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W. (-25) -20 fb
1,1,2 - 2,2,1  LLW  (-28) -21 fb
0,1,1,2 - 1  W  (-13) -20 fb
1,1,2 - 2,1  LW (-12) -20 fb
0,1,2,1 - 0,1  LW (-11) -20 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W (+3) -19 fb
1,1,1 - 2,2,1  LLW (-9) -20 fb
2,2,2 - 1,2  LW (-8) -20 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W  (+6) -19 fb
1,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL. (-36) -22 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W (-20) -21 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W (-5) -20 fb
2,2,1 - 2  W (+9) -19 fb
1,2,1 - 1  W (+22) -18 fb
1,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+23) -18 fb
2,1,1 - 1  W (+35) -17 fb
2,2,2 - 2 W  (+46) -16 fb
2,1,1 - 2,2,2   LLL (+40) -19 fb
2,2,2 - 1,1,2  LLW (+37) -20 fb
1,2,2 - 1,2  LW  (+38) -20 fb
2,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+39) -20 fb
1,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+40) -20 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W (+45) -19 fb
1,1,2 - 0,1  LW (+46) -18 fb
1,2,2 - 2  W (+50) -17 fb
1,1,1 - 1   W  (+53) -16 fb
2,2,1 - 1 W (+55) -15 fb

Total profit: +55 units (This session +9)
Flat bet -15 (This session -11).

I won’t be able to salvage the flat-bet but that’s ok.... I plan to use a conservative progression.

No more testing the ‘Dominant 3’. I’m happy the system has proved itself against a tough set of numbers.

I’m now going to test some of the other systems against Mr Eko’s numbers.
😊

What kind of progression did you use?

[jono1167]

What kind of progression did you use?

Hi Andre

This was the d’alembert progression. I was already halfway through this test when you posted information about the ‘Gr8Player's Progression’.

I plan on testing this soon.

Cheers Andre

[Let Me Win]

The great progression was used successfully but with ten steps instead of seven in the book "Ten Days At Monte Carlo at The Banks Expense.


link:s://archive.org/details/TenDaysAtMonteCarloAtTheBankSEx

[boyd30]

Toughest session yet..... see results below....

2,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL  (+40) -7 fb
2,2,2 - 2  W  (+44) -6 fb
2,1,2 - 0,1,2  LLW  (+42) -7 fb
1,0,1 - 1  W  (+46) -6 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W  (+47) -5 fb
2,1,2 - 1,1,1  LLL  (+41) -8 fb
2,2,1 - 1,1,2  LLW  (+38) -8 fb
1,1,2 - 1   W  (+43) -7 fb
1,2,1 - 2,2,1  LLW   (+40) -8 fb 
1,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL  (+22) -11 fb
1,1,1 - 2,2,1  LLW  (+15) -12 fb
2,2,2 - 1,2  LW  (+16) -13 fb
1,1,2 -,2,2,2  LLL. (-14) -16 fb
1,1,1 - 1    W (-2) -15 fb
0,1,2,2 - 2  W (+9) -14 fb
1,2,0,1 - 1  W (+19) -13 fb
2,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+20) -13 fb
2,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+21) -13 fb
1,1,0,0,1 - 1  W (+30) -12 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W  (+38) -11 fb
0,1,1,2 - 2,2,1  LLW (+32) -14 fb
1,1,1 - 2,2,1  LLW  (+25) -15 fb
2,2,2 - 2  W (34) -14 fb
1,1,2 - 2,1  LW (+26) -14 fb
2,2,1 - 1,1,2  LLW (+29) -15 fb
2,1,2 - 1,1,2  LLW (+21) -16 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W (+31) -15 fb
1,1,1 - 2,1  LW  (+30) -15 fb       
2,1,0,1 - 2,2,2  LLL  (+0) -18 fb
2,2,2 - 1,2  LW (+1) -18 fb
2,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL. (-40) -21 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W. (-25) -20 fb
1,1,2 - 2,2,1  LLW  (-28) -21 fb
0,1,1,2 - 1  W  (-13) -20 fb
1,1,2 - 2,1  LW (-12) -20 fb
0,1,2,1 - 0,1  LW (-11) -20 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W (+3) -19 fb
1,1,1 - 2,2,1  LLW (-9) -20 fb
2,2,2 - 1,2  LW (-8) -20 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W  (+6) -19 fb
1,2,2 - 1,1,1  LLL. (-36) -22 fb
1,1,1 - 1  W (-20) -21 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W (-5) -20 fb
2,2,1 - 2  W (+9) -19 fb
1,2,1 - 1  W (+22) -18 fb
1,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+23) -18 fb
2,1,1 - 1  W (+35) -17 fb
2,2,2 - 2 W  (+46) -16 fb
2,1,1 - 2,2,2   LLL (+40) -19 fb
2,2,2 - 1,1,2  LLW (+37) -20 fb
1,2,2 - 1,2  LW  (+38) -20 fb
2,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+39) -20 fb
1,1,1 - 2,1  LW (+40) -20 fb
1,1,2 - 1  W (+45) -19 fb
1,1,2 - 0,1  LW (+46) -18 fb
1,2,2 - 2  W (+50) -17 fb
1,1,1 - 1   W  (+53) -16 fb
2,2,1 - 1 W (+55) -15 fb

Total profit: +55 units (This session +9)
Flat bet -15 (This session -11).

I won’t be able to salvage the flat-bet but that’s ok.... I plan to use a conservative progression.

No more testing the ‘Dominant 3’. I’m happy the system has proved itself against a tough set of numbers.

I’m now going to test some of the other systems against Mr Eko’s numbers.
😊

What was the biggest unit you had to bet?

[jono1167]

What was the biggest unit you had to bet?

The biggest bet was 16 units. Not ideal but they were tough numbers.

A bet of 16 is level 5 of a Marty. A bet of 16 is level 16 in the D’alembert.

Let us know if you have more success with a different progression.

[loukoumas]

Regarding Gr8 players prog:
LEVEL 1:  âˆ'1, 1, 1,âˆ'1, âˆ'1,âˆ'1.âˆ'1        âˆ'3 up next LEVEL
LEVEL 2:  2, âˆ'2, âˆ'2, âˆ'2, 2, 2, âˆ'2       âˆ'2 up next LEVEL
LEVEL 3:  3, âˆ'3. âˆ'3, 3.âˆ'3,âˆ'3,âˆ'3       âˆ'9  up next LEVEL what we do here? Go back to LEVEL 2 or continue?
LEVEL 4:  4, 4. 4 what we do here? Go back 2  LEVELS (start from  LEVEL2)? Or 1 back, start from LEVEL 3?

[Let Me Win]

You can read the book it is fully explained there with examples.

[loukoumas]

I google it but i couldnt find it, where is it Letmewin?