Beating the even money

[Person S]

Thanks, it looks like the progression + 1 / -1 works better. I will conduct testing ... Do I have to observe the length of the cycle? The cycle in 18 steps differs from the cycle in 45-56, etc., steps.

[Winner]

Thanks, it looks like the progression + 1 / -1 works better. I will conduct testing ... Do I have to observe the length of the cycle? The cycle in 18 steps differs from the cycle in 45-56, etc., steps.

The more cycle you test the more you can read different events happening and see where. Your bets can be place .if. I’m not in profit after the first  game 18 steps I continue.
Hope that helps

[Winner]

100 bets deviation no more then 55/45 picking one pair over the other.so changing your bets consistently won’t help when some something is not working stick to what you start with.

[Winner]

Here is air ball session result
1101212221111121122. +3
221112121212211112 +2
101221122112102201221-3
222222121222121221 +2
Result +4 flat bet with progression on the third game 16 units on progression

[Winner]

What’s interesting after thousand of test over the years roulette doesn’t seem so random.
The casinos need that HE or else guys like me would destroy them😆

[Person S]

Winner, for me the problem is what to do if a 0 appears, what do you do if a 0 appears, bet on the old value or keep track of the new?

[Winner]

Winner, for me the problem is what to do if a 0 appears, what do you do if a 0 appears, bet on the old value or keep track of the new?

Ingnore it

[jono1167]

Great work with this Winner. I think everyone on the forum has been checking this method out at some stage....

The idea of packaging the EC results into chops and runs, and then betting on them is brilliant.

Obviously, the challenge is how to place your bets..... I’ve been thinking about this and I’d like to put forward an idea.

My idea is to bet the series of 18 results (CHOPS and RUNS) using a series of mini labouchere bets.

Your labouchere betting string would start like this: 1 - 1. First bet is 2 units.

Technically, this string should finish with a +2 profit. However, I am happy for it to finish as soon as you’re in profit (+1). In summary, as soon as the string becomes positive, you reset and begin a new labouchere string (1 - 1) and continue betting the series of 18 chops and runs.

I have just finished playing an 18 string series:
1, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 2, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2 (+3).

Like Winner, I have bet on the RUNS. In the above string, the CHOPS beat the RUNS 10 - 8. However, using the mini labouchere, I still finished with +3 units of profit.

Let me break this down...

18 string series using labouchere bets. I will be betting for RUNS.

Starting labouchere sequence 1 - 1
1 - 1
1st bet: 1 + 1 = 2 
(Result: CHOP / Loss - 2)

1 - 1 - 2
2nd bet: 1 + 2 = 3
(Result: CHOP / Loss -5)

1 - 1 - 2 - 3
3rd bet: 1 + 3 = 4
(Result: RUN / Win -1)

1 - 2
4th bet: 1 + 2 = 3
(Result: CHOP / Loss -4)

1 - 2 - 3
5th bet: 1 + 3 = 4
(Result: RUN / Win - 0)

2
6th bet: 2
(Result: CHOP / Loss -2)

2 - 2
7th bet: 2 + 2 = 4 
(Result: RUN / Win +2)

Result: CHOP-CHOP-RUN-CHOP-RUN-CHOP-RUN (+2 units profit)

We’re in profit so we finish this labouchere string and reset. We continue betting the 18 result series.

Reset labouchere sequence 1 - 1
1 - 1
1st bet: 1 + 1 = 2 
(Result: CHOP / Loss -2)

1 - 1 - 2
2nd bet: 1 + 2 = 3
(Result: RUN / Win +1)

Result: CHOP-RUN (+1)
We’re in profit so we finish this labouchere string and reset. We continue betting the 18 result series.

Reset labouchere sequence 1 - 1
1 - 1
1st bet: 1 + 1 = 2
(Result: RUN / Win +2)

Result: RUN (+2)
We’re in profit so we finish this labouchere string and reset. We continue betting the 18 result series.

Reset labouchere sequence 1 - 1
1 - 1
1st bet: 1 + 1 = 2 
(Result: CHOP / Loss - 2)

1 - 1 - 2
2nd bet: 1 + 2 = 3
(Result: RUN / Win +1)

Result: CHOP-RUN (+1)
We’re in profit so we finish this labouchere string and reset. We continue betting the 18 result series.

Reset labouchere sequence 1 - 1
1 - 1
1st bet: 1 + 1 = 2 
(Result: CHOP / Loss - 2)

1 - 1 - 2
2nd bet: 1 + 2 = 3
(Result: CHOP / Loss -5)

1 - 1 - 2 - 3
3rd bet: 1 + 3 = 4
(Result: RUN / Win -1)

1 - 2
4th bet: 1 + 2 = 3
(Result: CHOP / Loss -4)

1 - 2 - 3
5th bet: 1 + 3 = 4
(Result: CHOP / Loss -8)

1 - 2 - 3 - 4
6th bet: 1 + 4 = 5
(Result: RUN / Win -3)

Result: CHOP-CHOP-RUN-CHOP-CHOP-RUN (-3)

18 result series is complete.

We were betting for RUNS. The RUNS lost 8 - 10 but we still finished the sequence with a profit of 3 units.

CHOPS: 10
RUNS: 8
Profit + 3.

I have only tested this betting method for three sequences. Each one has finished in profit. It still needs a lot more testing.

If you think it’s any good, give it a go and post the results.

Any good Winner?

[Winner]

Great work with this Winner. I think everyone on the forum has been checking this method out at some stage....

The idea of packaging the EC results into chops and runs, and then betting on them is brilliant.

Obviously, the challenge is how to place your bets..... I’ve been thinking about this and I’d like to put forward an idea.

My idea is to bet the series of 18 results (CHOPS and RUNS) using a series of mini labouchere bets.

Your labouchere betting string would start like this: 1 - 1. First bet is 2 units.

Technically, this string should finish with a +2 profit. However, I am happy for it to finish as soon as you’re in profit (+1). In summary, as soon as the string becomes positive, you reset and begin a new labouchere string (1 - 1) and continue betting the series of 18 chops and runs.

I have just finished playing an 18 string series:
1, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 2, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 1, 1, 2 (+3).

Like Winner, I have bet on the RUNS. In the above string, the CHOPS beat the RUNS 10 - 8. However, using the mini labouchere, I still finished with +3 units of profit.

Let me break this down...

18 string series using labouchere bets. I will be betting for RUNS.

Starting labouchere sequence 1 - 1
1 - 1
1st bet: 1 + 1 = 2 
(Result: CHOP / Loss - 2)

1 - 1 - 2
2nd bet: 1 + 2 = 3
(Result: CHOP / Loss -5)

1 - 1 - 2 - 3
3rd bet: 1 + 3 = 4
(Result: RUN / Win -1)

1 - 2
4th bet: 1 + 2 = 3
(Result: CHOP / Loss -4)

1 - 2 - 3
5th bet: 1 + 3 = 4
(Result: RUN / Win - 0)

2
6th bet: 2
(Result: CHOP / Loss -2)

2 - 2
7th bet: 2 + 2 = 4 
(Result: RUN / Win +2)

Result: CHOP-CHOP-RUN-CHOP-RUN-CHOP-RUN (+2 units profit)

We’re in profit so we finish this labouchere string and reset. We continue betting the 18 result series.

Reset labouchere sequence 1 - 1
1 - 1
1st bet: 1 + 1 = 2 
(Result: CHOP / Loss -2)

1 - 1 - 2
2nd bet: 1 + 2 = 3
(Result: RUN / Win +1)

Result: CHOP-RUN (+1)
We’re in profit so we finish this labouchere string and reset. We continue betting the 18 result series.

Reset labouchere sequence 1 - 1
1 - 1
1st bet: 1 + 1 = 2
(Result: RUN / Win +2)

Result: RUN (+2)
We’re in profit so we finish this labouchere string and reset. We continue betting the 18 result series.

Reset labouchere sequence 1 - 1
1 - 1
1st bet: 1 + 1 = 2 
(Result: CHOP / Loss - 2)

1 - 1 - 2
2nd bet: 1 + 2 = 3
(Result: RUN / Win +1)

Result: CHOP-RUN (+1)
We’re in profit so we finish this labouchere string and reset. We continue betting the 18 result series.

Reset labouchere sequence 1 - 1
1 - 1
1st bet: 1 + 1 = 2 
(Result: CHOP / Loss - 2)

1 - 1 - 2
2nd bet: 1 + 2 = 3
(Result: CHOP / Loss -5)

1 - 1 - 2 - 3
3rd bet: 1 + 3 = 4
(Result: RUN / Win -1)

1 - 2
4th bet: 1 + 2 = 3
(Result: CHOP / Loss -4)

1 - 2 - 3
5th bet: 1 + 3 = 4
(Result: CHOP / Loss -8)

1 - 2 - 3 - 4
6th bet: 1 + 4 = 5
(Result: RUN / Win -3)

Result: CHOP-CHOP-RUN-CHOP-CHOP-RUN (-3)

18 result series is complete.

We were betting for RUNS. The RUNS lost 8 - 10 but we still finished the sequence with a profit of 3 units.

CHOPS: 10
RUNS: 8
Profit + 3.

I have only tested this betting method for three sequences. Each one has finished in profit. It still needs a lot more testing.

If you think it’s any good, give it a go and post the results.

Any good Winner?

Interesting ,testing will tell.
25oooo spins
The stats are
Runs  15 /3 split is the most runs not in a row.this happened 2 times
Chops 15/3 split seen this 3 times
I have not tested with the labby but curious to see what happens .

[jono1167]

Interesting ,testing will tell.
25oooo spins
The stats are
Runs  15 /3 split is the most runs not in a row.this happened 2 times
Chops 15/3 split seen this 3 times
I have not tested with the labby but curious to see what happens .

Hi Winner 

I agree. It’s very early days for this little betting system. It will need plenty more work. It hasn’t been tested against a bad run of CHOPS yet. Hopefully a few more people will give it a try....

Again, awesome strategy Winner and thanks for sharing.

[jono1167]

I have just completed another 18 result  cycle using the mini labouchere.

I’ll try and lay this out differently so it is easier to understand. It gets confusing... Also because the labouchere uses lots of 1s and 2s, I’ll try and refer to the system results as CHOPS and RUNS.

Betting RUNS again.

1st bet series
1 - 1 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. CHOP. (-2)
1 - 1 - 2 (1 +2 =3) Bet 3. RUN. (+1)
In profit (+1), reset

2nd bet series
1 - 1 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. CHOP. (-2)
1 - 1 - 2 (1 +2 =3) Bet 3. CHOP. (-5)
1 - 1 - 2 - 3 (1 +3 =4) Bet 4. RUN. (-1)
1 - 2 (1 +2 =3) Bet 3. RUN. (+2)
In profit (+2), reset

3rd bet series
1 - 1 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. CHOP. (-2)
1 - 1 - 2 (1 +2 =3) Bet 3. RUN. (+1)
In profit (+1), reset

4th bet series
1 - 1 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. CHOP. (-2)
1 - 1 - 2 (1 +2 =3) Bet 3. RUN. (+1)
In profit (+1), reset

5th bet series
1 - 1 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. RUN. (+2)
In profit (+2), reset

6th bet series
1 - 1 (zero 1st spin, no loss)
1 - 1 - 2 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. CHOP. (-2)
1 - 1 - 2 (1 +2 =3) Bet 3. RUN. (+1)
In profit (+1), reset

7th bet series
1 - 1 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. RUN. (+2)
In profit (+2), reset

8th bet series
1 - 1 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. RUN. (+2)
In profit (+2), reset

9th bet series
1 - 1 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. RUN. (+2)
In profit (+2), reset

10th bet series
1 - 1 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. CHOP. (-2)
1 - 1 - 2 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. CHOP. (-5)
18 bet series complete, do not reset (-5).

1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1 (+9).

We were betting for RUNS again. This time the RUNS won 10 - 8 and we finished the sequence with a profit of 9 units.

Remember, last time the RUNS lost 8 - 10, but a profit of +3 units was still achieved.

RUNS: 10
CHOPS: 8
Zero occurred once (1st spin so no loss)
Profit + 9.

[jono1167]

I have just completed another 18 result  cycle using the mini labouchere.

I’ll try and lay this out differently so it is easier to understand. It gets confusing... Also because the labouchere uses lots of 1s and 2s, I’ll try and refer to the system results as CHOPS and RUNS.

Betting RUNS again.

1st bet series
1 - 1 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. CHOP. (-2)
1 - 1 - 2 (1 +2 =3) Bet 3. RUN. (+1)
In profit (+1), reset

2nd bet series
1 - 1 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. CHOP. (-2)
1 - 1 - 2 (1 +2 =3) Bet 3. CHOP. (-5)
1 - 1 - 2 - 3 (1 +3 =4) Bet 4. RUN. (-1)
1 - 2 (1 +2 =3) Bet 3. RUN. (+2)
In profit (+2), reset

3rd bet series
1 - 1 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. CHOP. (-2)
1 - 1 - 2 (1 +2 =3) Bet 3. RUN. (+1)
In profit (+1), reset

4th bet series
1 - 1 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. CHOP. (-2)
1 - 1 - 2 (1 +2 =3) Bet 3. RUN. (+1)
In profit (+1), reset

5th bet series
1 - 1 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. RUN. (+2)
In profit (+2), reset

6th bet series
1 - 1 (zero 1st spin, no loss)
1 - 1 - 2 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. CHOP. (-2)
1 - 1 - 2 (1 +2 =3) Bet 3. RUN. (+1)
In profit (+1), reset

7th bet series
1 - 1 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. RUN. (+2)
In profit (+2), reset

8th bet series
1 - 1 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. RUN. (+2)
In profit (+2), reset

9th bet series
1 - 1 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. RUN. (+2)
In profit (+2), reset

10th bet series
1 - 1 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. CHOP. (-2)
1 - 1 - 2 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. CHOP. (-5)
18 bet series complete, do not reset (-5).

1, 2, 1, 1, 2, 2, 1, 2, 1, 2, 2, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1 (+9).

We were betting for RUNS again. This time the RUNS won 10 - 8 and we finished the sequence with a profit of 9 units.

Remember, last time the RUNS lost 8 - 10, but a profit of +3 units was still achieved.

RUNS: 10
CHOPS: 8
Zero occurred once (1st spin so no loss)
Profit + 9.

You would have noticed, the 10th bet series of the previous game finished with two chops (a loss of -5 units).

Although I didn’t include them in the finished results, I played out the betting series. See below.

10th bet series
1 - 1 (1 +1 =2) Bet 2. CHOP. (-2)
1 - 1 - 2 (1 +1 =2) Bet 3. CHOP. (-5)
1 - 1 - 2 - 3 (1 +3 =4) Bet 4. CHOP. (-9)
1 - 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 (1 +4 =5) Bet 5. RUN. (-4)
1 - 2 - 3 (1 +3 =4) Bet 4. RUN. (0)
2 Bet (2 +0 = 2. RUN 2. (+2)

Amended results:

RUNS: 13
CHOPS: 9
Zero occurred once (1st spin so no loss)
Profit + 16

[Winner]

Jono good results and not to explosive with the progression 👍🏼

[Winner]

Here are the splits on runs and chops in 18 series either way.

9/9
10/8
11/7
12/6
13/5
14/4
15/3
16/2 never seen
17/1never seen
18/0 never seen

     

[Winner]

Here is more results Random has been tamed.
Here is a flat bet to a progression .
Flat bet until -4 then my progression starts 2 4 8 16

211212111112222121=-2
2100211211211112112=+2
1011222121111122112=+3
112221212122211212=-2
212221222212112111=+0
12122102112222122021=-2
2110022122211121101201=0
2121202211121222111=+0
211122122212112211=-2
210210111201111211111=+7
112111122222111211=+3
2111122122122100112=+1
1222210121212111222=+2
2222122012112122122=+7
1220022202112220222211=+11
2121221222221220212= +13
Highest bet was. 4units in the progression @1111loss 2,4
Random has been tamed
Sorry can’t give out the actual strategy but I in courage you to find a strategy that works for you using this method it’s there just look for it .