Beating the even money

[Winner]

Winner
Like it; but i use the voisin du zero against the tier and orphens, as it will use the zero.

Like you say, have a muck around to see what you find.

Where is talk of prog: like can you name a page.
Cheers

I’m flat betting until I’m -4 to 5 units then 24816 32
If I’m in the plus I won’t go below +3 I will end the session there .

[-Katalyst-]

So i take that as a no then!

Didnt think so, its cool. We arent worthy. Meanwhile others share all.

BW - no disrespect intended - nobody in their right mind will drop their entire play for all to see - Winner’s done more than most here - def more than the regurgitated “basic” math plays that we are constantly reminded of when half decent ideas are thrown around
- and there have been a few of them on this forum - though the norm is that their discarded shortly after because of boredom in finding solutions to turn them into profitable business
On another thread, I did give Winner stick about how presumptuous he was in thinking that uncle Steve was the only one making money on this forum from Roulette - now he’s found a way and to his credit has shared plenty
**When you will find it (your it) - without doubt, you will not share it openly and even then - you will be reserved about how you go about it

-Best Wishes-

[jono1167]

Anyone (other than winner) cracked this nut yet?
Seems like some folk are on the verge

Winner, if someone found the way you play exactly, then shared it here, would you admit they'd cracked it?

Hey Buffalo,

Winner has practically gift wrapped everything, it's all in this thread. It's based on flat betting 1111 and then a progression if you lose the 4 flat bets. I think the progression is 2, 4, 8, 16, 32. 2BOBBET has another variation which is similar. I was trialing a mini-lab which works really well if CHOPS and RUNS remain even. It even handles a small deficit in the CHOPS. However, I have shown it can't really handle a bad steak. Dips too low, not practical in the real world.

Winners betting strategy is very resilient. Follow what he has posted.  The concept of packaging the result of two spins into RUNS and CHOPS is brilliant. Full credit to Winner for sharing what he has so far.

Look forward to your contributions on this one Buffalo.

Jono

[Mako]

Hey Buffalo,

Winner has practically gift wrapped everything, it's all in this thread. It's based on flat betting 1111 and then a progression if you lose the 4 flat bets. I think the progression is 2, 4, 8, 16, 32. 2BOBBET has another variation which is similar. I was trialing a mini-lab which works really well if CHOPS and RUNS remain even. It even handles a small deficit in the CHOPS. However, I have shown it can't really handle a bad steak. Dips too low, not practical in the real world.

Winners betting strategy is very resilient. Follow what he has posted.  The concept of packaging the result of two spins into RUNS and CHOPS is brilliant. Full credit to Winner for sharing what he has so far.

Look forward to your contributions on this one Buffalo.

Jono

Nice Jono, good job deep diving on this one. 

I haven't started looking at this yet, but it reminds a little bit of the Ching-A-Ling, where the creator's entire foundation for his method was that chops on any EC bet will account for 25% of the results, while streaks will make up the other 75%.  He had done multiple 1M+ RNG runs which had apparently led him to that conclusion.

Sidenote: You all should have seen The General in that particular thread, he gave that poor old bastard a stroke multiple times.  Makes his dances with Turbo look like a friendly tea party...Sputnik (EGO) remembers I'm sure. 

[Winner]

Nice Jono, good job deep diving on this one. 

I haven't started looking at this yet, but it reminds a little bit of the Ching-A-Ling, where the creator's entire foundation for his method was that chops on any EC bet will account for 25% of the results, while streaks will make up the other 75%.  He had done multiple 1M+ RNG runs which had apparently led him to that conclusion.

Sidenote: You all should have seen The General in that particular thread, he gave that poor old bastard a stroke multiple times.  Makes his dances with Turbo look like a friendly tea party...Sputnik (EGO) remembers I'm sure. 

The General reminds me of Conor Mcgregor loves to trash talk🙂

[jono1167]

Nice Jono, good job deep diving on this one. 

I haven't started looking at this yet, but it reminds a little bit of the Ching-A-Ling, where the creator's entire foundation for his method was that chops on any EC bet will account for 25% of the results, while streaks will make up the other 75%.  He had done multiple 1M+ RNG runs which had apparently led him to that conclusion.

Sidenote: You all should have seen The General in that particular thread, he gave that poor old bastard a stroke multiple times.  Makes his dances with Turbo look like a friendly tea party...Sputnik (EGO) remembers I'm sure. 

Thanks Mako - If you decide to have a go at this, let us know how you go.

[Mako]

Thanks Mako - If you decide to have a go at this, let us know how you go.

I will for sure, it's on my list.  I'm still fooling around with the daveylibra 18-unhit approach from last week, I haven't gotten it to fail enough yet so I can quit testing it and close the book.  RouletteGhost is testing a similar method as well.

The General reminds me of Conor Mcgregor loves to trash talk🙂

lol, yes, you can see the general doing that dipshit walk Conor does in the ring each time he posts against one of our fallacy approaches...

[AndyCasinoK]

Hi All  !

Mako your a genius ! I was thinking about Ching-A-Ling progression for this method

"Level 1: 40p-60p-80p-£1-£1.20-£1.40.  Lose up by 20p; win down by 10p
Level 2: 80p-£1.20-£1.60-£2-£2.40-£2.80.    Lose up by 40p; win down by 20p
Level 3: £1.20-£1.80-£2.40-£3-£3.60-£4.20.    Lose up by 60p; win down by 30p

(On 2 consecutive wins back 2 places in level - or reset if in profit)

SESSION TARGET = £2 (5x40p units)

TOTAL BANK REQUIRED = £32.30

Cheers,
Atlantis. " 

here the link : link:://:.rouletteforum.com/viewthread/10995/P15/

[jono1167]

@ Notto   As I understand it that number 22 is a chop, you ignore the 0 

I have been playing this and its a very stable bet selection, my money management is the same as winners flat bet up to a 4 unit loss then I carry on if im still on my string of 9 results

I then start my progression on the start of the next string of 9 results

Example

1,2,2,1,2,1,1,1,1
2,1,1,2,1,2,2,2,2  -- Use prog 2,4,6,12 ....  if behind , at the start of this string
1,1,1,1,1,2,1,1,1
1,2,2
plus 6 units for me on this All Flat Bet 

Hi 2Bob

I was looking at your figures above. You said you had flat-bet everything, however I notice you had a string of five CHOPS (3rd string). Wouldn't this have meant a small increase in your progression? Can you please clarify?

I assume you were betting RUNS......

Thanks 2Bob

[2BobBet]

Sorry Jono I got the lines mixed up!
I dont bet for Runs and Chops ,I bet against the above result ,9 results on a rolling basis -Winner says this was the best selection in his testing

I will explain for everyone how I play

Record the first results either chops or runs

1,   2,   2,   1,   2,   1,  1,   1,   1   this is no betting record first 9 results- I now start to bet opposite of the above result!
2w,1w,1w,2w,1w,2w,2w,2w,2w -    All flat bet I could of stopped here but I will carry on
1w,1L,1L, 1w,  1L,2L ,1w, 1w,1w
1L, 2w,2w,                                         All flat bet plus 11 units

As you can see from this the original result should of won more , I was still learning the system so I recorded the results wrong the above is now how I play

[buffalowizard]

Sorry Jono I got the lines mixed up!
I dont bet for Runs and Chops ,I bet against the above result ,9 results on a rolling basis -Winner says this was the best selection in his testing

I will explain for everyone how I play

Record the first results either chops or runs

1,   2,   2,   1,   2,   1,  1,   1,   1   this is no betting record first 9 results- I now start to bet opposite of the above result!
2w,1w,1w,2w,1w,2w,2w,2w,2w -    All flat bet I could of stopped here but I will carry on
1w,1L,1L, 1w,  1L,2L ,1w, 1w,1w
1L, 2w,2w,                                         All flat bet plus 11 units

As you can see from this the original result should of won more , I was still learning the system so I recorded the results wrong the above is now how I play

Thanks for explaining how you play concisely Bob. The more testers on board the better

[jono1167]

Sorry Jono I got the lines mixed up!
I dont bet for Runs and Chops ,I bet against the above result ,9 results on a rolling basis -Winner says this was the best selection in his testing

I will explain for everyone how I play

Record the first results either chops or runs

1,   2,   2,   1,   2,   1,  1,   1,   1   this is no betting record first 9 results- I now start to bet opposite of the above result!
2w,1w,1w,2w,1w,2w,2w,2w,2w -    All flat bet I could of stopped here but I will carry on
1w,1L,1L, 1w,  1L,2L ,1w, 1w,1w
1L, 2w,2w,                                         All flat bet plus 11 units

As you can see from this the original result should of won more , I was still learning the system so I recorded the results wrong the above is now how I play

Hi 2Bob

Thanks for the explanation. It sounds a bit like ‘Pattern Breaker’. Do you remember that? It was a thread on this forum which had over 200 pages (John Legend).

It will interesting to apply the RUN / CHOP technique to this strategy.

Please keep posting your results 2Bob. It will be interesting to follow.

Cheers

[jono1167]

Hi Winner

I was recording a few sessions this evening using a slightly modified betting strategy. The strategy incorporated your flat bet of 11111 followed by a progression.

Unfortunately I hit this nasty little run:
1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1,
4 RUNS / 14 CHOPS

I can’t seem to pick the flow of the game at all.....

[2BobBet]

Jono

Thats why I play opposite of 9 put those results into a lines of nine and play opposite of the above

You would have won 4 times and lost slightly more with flat bet. Minus a few units on that string of results, just keep playing flat with a prog on the next string . It may have ended with a total loss but you have to see how its performing, do what you think is right!

[Winner]

How’s everyone doing?