Beating the even money

[luckyfella]

Extra pockets and unfair payouts are cited by mathboyz that we can't win playing roulette.

Assume there's a casino whose wheel is without the extra zero pocket and the payout is fair.

Can you win consistently with such a setting ?

That's the base level starting point.

Why must your system win ?

What is the math basis why your system wins ?
(the most important part)

Note - that session graph above is pure luck. Question is can you be luck in more often than not. Answer lies in math - it's a probability game.

Cheers

[The General]

Note - that session graph above is pure luck. Question is can you be luck in more often than not. Answer lies in math - it's a probability game.

Cheers

The math says that your luck will run out and that you will inevitably lose your entire bankroll, never to break even again after you've played enough sessions.

[luckyfella]

The math says that your luck will run out and that you will inevitably lose your entire bankroll, never to break even again after you've played enough sessions.

Hey General, Yes you are correct about luck. I tested my luck with continuous betting and this is what I got. Incredible run isn't it ? Has to be a record of sort. 

[The General]

Hey General, Yes you are correct about luck. I tested my luck with continuous betting and this is what I got. Incredible run isn't it ? Has to be a record of sort. 

Well, as we all know charts are proof that a system works or doesn't work ,and my chart shows that your system doesn't work.  And my chart contains more spins. Geez, darn! 


Awe bummer.. sorry.

[luckyfella]

Well, as we all know charts are proof that a system works or doesn't work and my chart shows that your system doesn't work.

General, you use trolling on every forum to raise your profile visibility. Good strategy
So, how's your wobbly wheel business ?

[The General]

General, you use trolling on every forum to raise your profile visibility. Good strategy
So, how's your wobbly wheel business ?

I really enjoy the wobbly wheels.  Business is very good on the wobbly ones and the ones that don't wobble. .

[luckyfella]

I really enjoy the wobbly wheels.  Business is very good on the wobbly ones and the ones that don't wobble. .

Sorry General, I don't believe you.
Your business is down

[boyd30]

Here is something you can experiment with.
30 switches ever time you win go to the next patterns

1st 1221212
2-    21111222
3-11212212
4-12111112
5-22211211
6-22211211
7-12211221
8-21212111
9-112212111
10-22222222
11-22212221
12-22112222
13-12111122
14-11112122
15-12221121
16-12122111
17-11111112
18-11111221
19-11112222
20-22221221
21-12222122
22-11122211
23-11121222
24-22212212
25-12221121
26-22111211
27-21222122
28-11211211
29-11211111
30-22121111

Now start with number 1 on a win move through all 30 pattern on a loss continue until you hit .this how I found my switches within a switch.
Progression
111248163264

So 1 is for example red and 2 black? You go through the sessions with above progression. Win or loose doesn't matter you ride through the progression and lines above. Is this correct?

[atlantis]

One more thought on the way Winners system might work.

So he starts betting on 2's and waits for maybe a pattern of 4 to appear. As an example I will use one of the results he posted:

111222222022112211=10 +2

So you can see the first 4 out are 1112. So starting at the top of his patterns we go down till we find a 1112.

On the second line we see it  21 [1112] 22

So he bets 2 for the next round and wins.

Now the last four are 1222. So looking down the rows we find it at the end of row 12:
12-221 [1222] 2
So next he would bet on a 2 and so on.

Am I on the right track Winner or barking up the wrong tree?

1-12211212
2-21111222
3-11212212
4-12111112
5-22211211
6-22111211
7-12211221
8-21212111
9-11221211
10-22222222
11-22212221
12-22112222

That's an Interesting idea!?
Thing is, there are sometimes more than one line that match a result of four eg: 2221 = line 5 and 11

A.

[Winner]

I really enjoy the wobbly wheels.  Business is very good on the wobbly ones and the ones that don't wobble. .

What would make a wobbly wheel win and I’m serious.i don’t see any value to this.
From what I gather GENERAL you think you are the only one on the planet winning at such a simple game.
Here’.this what I do when I brored maybe all people here should try this for an exercise.
General you included cause I don’t think your as smart as you think you are.


Chess has 64 squares your job is to number each square  .
Now you are going to use the knight and I will give a number to start on but u can start anywhere you like so number49 now the knights can only move in an L so now your Job Mr GENERAL and all is to move the knight across the board and only touch each square only ONCE until you clear the whole board until you come back to number 49 if for whatever ..reason you over lap u start over this is all done blind folded when you get really good .I’m at the blind folded stage.
You go from number to number until you get back to number 49

[Firefox]

Wobbly wheels means ones with defects. It doesn't mean wobbly necessarily, that's just a nickname. It could be pockets, numbers ring, balance, stator, rotor, spindle, bearings, or other things. But whatever the defect, certain pockets can be favoured more than others. It only takes a 1/36 pocket and you break even; a bit like your 12s simulation without zero. 1/35 or greater, and you're in business. That's the value in it.

He's not the only one making money out of it. I made many £1000's in the 90s from biased wheel play. However, I belueve The General has made much much more than that.

I've not had the time to investigate wheels in recent years. Its an exacting process. Much more difficult than you might think, statistically, and logistically. There are many things the house can do to throw you off the scent. Also the modern wheels are much more defect free than some old ones. Opportunities are still out there though. 

[Winner]

Wobbly wheels means ones with defects. It doesn't mean wobbly necessarily, that's just a nickname. It could be pockets, numbers ring, balance, stator, rotor, spindle, bearings, or other things. But whatever the defect, certain pockets can be favoured more than others. It only takes a 1/36 pocket and you break even; a bit like your 12s simulation without zero. 1/35 or greater, and you're in business. That's the value in it.

He's not the only one making money out of it. I made many £1000's in the 90s from biased wheel play. However, I belueve The General has made much much more than that.

I've not had the time to investigate wheels in recent years. Its an exacting process. Much more difficult than you might think, statistically, and logistically. There are many things the house can do to throw you off the scent. Also the modern wheels are much more defect free than some old ones. Opportunities are still out there though. 

What your traveling the world for these give me a break that’s bull shit
Biased wheels are close to exitinct

[Winner]

Magic 30 go in play you win leave.
No sitting around looking for Wobblies
And why would one spend all that time if is difficult. Jagger days are over.
And easy for the casino to switch the wheels.
O yes forgot The General Looks for marking so he knows which wheel it is in case they switch it ,cough cough give me a break

[Winner]

Well, as we all know charts are proof that a system works or doesn't work ,and my chart shows that your system doesn't work.  And my chart contains more spins. Geez, darn! 


Awe bummer.. sorry.

📬open the mail General you might find a winning strategy.

[Firefox]

What your traveling the world for these give me a break that’s bull shit
Biased wheels are close to exitinct

Check out what I wrote more carefully. I said I'm not looking for these since the 1990s. It's too time consuming for me.

But there are opportunities if you look, even if it's temporary bias. A certain rotor and stator combo or a levelling issue.