Beating the even money

[Winner]

Well, I got to go.

Don't be angry, ok

Not one bit grasshopper go learn how lose

[jono1167]

Andre,

The thing is - winner's system and any or all of the variations posted cannot ALWAYS win by flatbet alone and EVERY TIME. This should not be so much of a shock to anybody; winner already said as much and even stated you can only really win by using some kind of progression...
I find the results aren't too bad with any of the ideas. You do get regular wins. The losses will happen as you showed but even those might be contained if using a clever type of progression. However - It is a LONG LOSING RUN that is going to kill it and if using standard marti will prove quite COSTLY when it does happen.
I posted the idea of wait until 2 same triplets then bet against a third same happening  because of the fact that 6 triplets of same in a row was very, very rare - but still, to win overall requires use of a progression because you do not know at what step of the betting line the win will eventually come...

212-212-1w

122-122-2w

121-121-11Lw

121-121-11Lw

111-111-112LLw

121-121-121-122 LLLLLw

Regards,
A.

Hi Atlantis

Your idea of betting against two triplets works really well. The only reason I'm not using it is that I'm currently testing the 'Dominant 3' system. Ideally I will be using your method and the Dominant 3 method in the future. As Winner says, mix it up a bit.

I would describe betting against the two triplets as a very conservative approach. In the time I was using it, I never managed to get the triplets to repeat three times. No doubt it's possible and you need to be prepared for it.

I'm still testing Dominant 3. At this stage the D'Alembert (+1-1) is holding up. To me, getting a win on even money is a huge bonus, but in the future, I would expect to be playing with a conservative progression. A loss of 9 units for 50 spins is far from a disaster. A disaster is when an aggressive progression blows up in your face. 

Look forward to posting more results using the D'Alembert progression soon.

[Winner]

@Andre because you have no clue on beating the game this one here is for you .
Some of u have been on this forum for a long time you know how to think about random
But still u fail . Iknow for a fact that roulette when looked at odds you can’t beat it I’m the first to admit that . The title of this thread is beating the even money game not beating the odds game .but some Idiots still believe they can . Like I said if you can’t beat the outside what makes you think you’ll beat the inside numbers it’s all the same .
Guys like Andre are not disciplined enough and believe me there’s a lot of out there .
Consistently losing every day. Idiots
Like Columbo, I'm sure some of old guys know who he was ,I believe you have  got throw out shit to weed out the idiots .
In this case there’s was only one .But a few that gave up trying to find a bet that is easy to play every time .
Lots of ideas on this thread and not one of u can make anything work short  term ,meaning less then 3hrs play. Some have tried and done ok .
The old guys keep trying but they get bored and move on .lol I was one of them .
This will be my last post on this thread its served its purpose .
I can see only a few winning .
In all the bet selection I presented there is only one that can win consistently .
Icall this one  The worm 🐛 guard.
The reason behind the worm guard it can win 100% of the timer  will get you out of the WORM HOLES every time. Well that’s it for talk .
I’ll will leave this thread with some great result on the worm guard.
@ Andre
I’ll START CARING When YOUR OPINIONS START PAYING MY Bills .
Worm guard results.


Wll+1
Www
wll+2
Wll+3
Wwl+4
Www
Www+5
LLL +6
Www+7
Wwl+8
Wwl+9
Wll+10
Lww+11
Wow+12
Wwl+13
Wll+14
Wll+15
Wwl+16
LLL +17
LLL +18
Wwl+19
Lww+20
Wll+21
Lww+23
Wwl+24
To be continued 60000 games

[jono1167]

@Andre because you have no clue on beating the game this one here is for you .
Some of u have been on this forum for a long time you know how to think about random
But still u fail . Iknow for a fact that roulette when looked at odds you can’t beat it I’m the first to admit that . The title of this thread is beating the even money game not beating the odds game .but some Idiots still believe they can . Like I said if you can’t beat the outside what makes you think you’ll beat the inside numbers it’s all the same .
Guys like Andre are not disciplined enough and believe me there’s a lot of out there .
Consistently losing every day. Idiots
Like Columbo, I'm sure some of old guys know who he was ,I believe you have  got throw out shit to weed out the idiots .
In this case there’s was only one .But a few that gave up trying to find a bet that is easy to play every time .
Lots of ideas on this thread and not one of u can make anything work short  term ,meaning less then 3hrs play. Some have tried and done ok .
The old guys keep trying but they get bored and move on .lol I was one of them .
This will be my last post on this thread its served its purpose .
I can see only a few winning .
In all the bet selection I presented there is only one that can win consistently .
Icall this one  The worm 🐛 guard.
The reason behind the worm guard it can win 100% of the timer  will get you out of the WORM HOLES every time. Well that’s it for talk .
I’ll will leave this thread with some great result on the worm guard.
@ Andre
I’ll START CARING When YOUR OPINIONS START PAYING MY Bills .
Worm guard results.


Wll+1
Www
wll+2
Wll+3
Wwl+4
Www
Www+5
LLL +6
Www+7
Wwl+8
Wwl+9
Wll+10
Lww+11
Wow+12
Wwl+13
Wll+14
Wll+15
Wwl+16
LLL +17
LLL +18
Wwl+19
Lww+20
Wll+21
Lww+23
Wwl+24
To be continued 60000 games

Great work Winner. I’ll take those results any day.

Winner, I’ve just finished a 100 spin session. I’ll post the results in about 1 hour.  Just need to get back to the desktop pc.

Cheers

[atlantis]

Hey! winner  - Sorry to hear you're going - thanks for the interesting discussion and ideas.

I've also developed something from this topic which seems quite  promising at this early stage. Appears to cut out long losing runs + gives regular wins. Uses triplet 'pairs' like yours...

I'll show some results:

w
w
Lw
w     
w
LLL
w
LLw
LLw
w
w
w
Lw
LLL
w
w
LLL
Lw
w
w
Lw
w
LLw
w
w
w
w
Lw
Lw
w
w
w
Lw
w
w
w
w
w
w
LLL
w
Lw
w
Lw
LLw
Lw
w
Lw
LLw
w
Lw
Lw
LLw
LLw
w
w
LLw
Lw
LLw
w
w
LLw
Lw
w
LLw
Lw
w
LL
w
w
w
LLw
w
LLw
w
w
w
Lw
w
w
w
Lw
w
LLL
w
w
w
LLw
LLw
w
w
w
LLw
w
w
w
w
w
w

Gonna call it ermmm: "Triplet Takedown"   

A.

[Winner]

Hey! winner  - Sorry to hear you're going - thanks for the interesting discussion and ideas.

I've also developed something from this topic which seems quite  promising at this early stage. Appears to cut out long losing runs + gives regular wins. Uses triplet 'pairs' like yours...

I'll show some results:



Gonna call it ermmm: "Triplet Takedown"   

A.

Not leaving just done with this thread .after I post some result for Mr Andre the impatient man 😆

[Winner]

Wwl +1
Wwl +2
Lww+3
Lww+4
Lww+5
Wll+6
Wwl +7
Lww+8
Lww+9
Wll+10
LLL +11
Lww+12
Wlw+13
Wwl+14
Www
LLL +15
Www
Lwl +16
LLL +17
Www
Www+18
LLL +19
Lww+20
Wlw+21
Wwl+22
Lwl+23
Lwl+24
The worm guard hasn’t lost 6 in row 60000 games mr Andre

[boyd30]

I did a short test playing d'Alembert. First I played the most dominant, but it wasn't good. Then I decided to switch when the pattern switched. So first I played with, but if I lost I played against it. Now I remember what Winner said. That can be the key. I will continue to test.

[poluvolo]

Hi
Yesterday  I played  as ATLANTIS idea
wait until two same triplets  then  bet against
all EC at the same time not only H/L
of course more betting oportunities
my results after session from airball machines
180 spins two hours
LW
W
LW
W
W
LLW
W
of course to early  but.... vry nice results
cheers
about  your last post ATLANTIS  YOU PLAY TRIPLETS AND BETTIING FOR DOMINANT OR SOMETHING DIFFERENT IDEA?

L

[loukoumas]

I think it would be very handy is someone on board could program for us a simple excel tracker (or even in rx) highlighted Atlantis idea of 2 same triplets appearance in rolling basis ( next tracking string of two triplets must be right after the previous one breaks ). Something like this for all ECs :
   
SPINS    H/L                  O/E                                    R/B
24            H                      E                                         B
33            H      2              O       1                               B          2
22            H                      E                                         B
19            H      2             O       1                               R           1
36            H                      E                                         R
17            L       1             O       1                               B           1
15            L                       O                                        B           
7              L        2             O       2                              R           1   
21            H                      O                                        R           
27            H        2            O        2                             R           2
5              L                       O                                        R             
19            H        1             O        2                            R           2
23            H                      O                                        R             
27            H       2             O        2                             R           2
5              L                       O                                        R           
29            H      1              O        2                             B            1
14            L                       E                                        R           
21            H       1             O       1                              R            2   
36            H                      E                                        R             
35            H       2             O        1                            B             1 
21            H                      O                                       R             
10            L        1             E         1                            B             1
5              L                       O                                       R             
36            H        1            E         1                            R             2
35            H                      O                                       B               
21           H        2            O         2                            R             1           
27            H                      O                                       R           
11            L        1            O         2                             B            1
22           H                        E                                       B             
34           H        2              E         2                           R              1   
24           H                        E                                       B             
32           H         2             E         2                           R             1
16           L                         E                                       R                   
34           H        1              E         2                            R            2
36           H                        E                                       R             
33           H        2              O        1                            B           1
14           L                         E                                       R                 
10           L         2              E         2                            B           1
35           H                        O                                       B
1             L        1              O        2                             R           1     
28           H                        E                                       B           
27          H        2               O        1                            R           1
33           H                        O                                      B               
6             L         1              E        1                             B           2
   

[jono1167]

OK Winner, Atlantis, Mr Eko

Check this out…..

Dominant 3 Method
Using D’alembert (+1-1) money management

221 â€" 2 W,   122 â€" 1 L0W,   10012 â€" 221 LLW,    2101 â€" 1W,   211 â€" 21 LW,    111 â€" 1 W,   0122 â€" 2 W,   212 â€" 012 LLW,   122 â€" 112 LLW,   112 â€" 1W,   221 â€" 2W,   222 â€" 111 LLL,   221 â€" 12 LW,   212 â€" 2W,   212 â€" 02 LW,   221 â€" 12 LW,   212 â€" 2W,   111 â€" 222 LLL,   222 â€" 2W,   112 â€" 21 LW, 112 â€" 222 LLL,   122 â€" 2W,   0211 â€" 221 LLW,   222 â€" 2W,   121 â€" 1W,   222 â€" 2W,   111 â€" 21 LW,   221 â€" 2W,   1021 â€" 21 LW,   221 â€" 2W,   121 â€" 221 LLW,   211 â€" 21 LW,    212 â€" 2 W,   121 â€" 1W,   0121 â€" 222 LLL,   122 â€" 2 W,   111 â€" 1 W,   212 â€" 12 LW,   212 â€" 12 LW,   222 â€" 112 LLW,    122 â€" 2 W,   112 â€" 1W,   111 â€" 1W,   211 â€" 1W,   111 â€" 1W,   111 â€" 21LW,   121 â€" 1 W,   122 â€" 2W,   121 â€" 1W,   121 â€" 21 LW,   221 â€" 1W,   212 â€" 02 LW,   121 â€" 1W,   112 â€" 221 LLW,   112 â€" 221 LLW,   112 â€" 1W,   112 â€" 21 LW,   111 â€" 1W,   112 â€" 1W,   212 â€" 2W.

Profit: +42 units (D’alembert)
(+12 Units flat bet).

I was really happy with the way the d’alembert held up. I never once felt like the progressions got out of control. A couple of days ago I tested the Dominant 3 with the mini-lab. After a few bad runs I found myself betting 35-40 units. Although it easily recovered, I didn’t feel comfortable betting such high numbers. The largest bet I had this session was 7 units.

Here’s an example of a bad run from today's game.

    L        L        L        W       L          W         L           L         L          W         L         L         W        W         W         W
    1       2        3         4        3          4          3          4          5          6             5         6         7         6           5          4       (Progression used)     
   -1      -3       -6       -2       -5         -1        -4         -8        -13       -7        -12      -18         -11      -5          0         +4   

You can see by the sixteenth spin, we’re at plus four units. When you hit a new high or breakeven, reset the progression to one.

Andre, after 50 spins I was sitting on -1 unit flat bet. The first 50 spins were tough with the zero showing up more than usual. The second 50 spins were much better. The -1 unit turned into +12 (flat bet). I don’t think your result of -9 from a few days ago was a disaster.  Sure, it wasn’t a great session but I’ve seen worse using different systems.

[Mister Eko]

Jono and others.

I give you one testing approach with zeros.

If any of yours twisted system survival these approach, you will win in long run.

[jono1167]

Jono and others.

I give you one testing approach with zeros.

If any of yours twisted system survival these approach, you will win in long run.

Thanks Mister Eko, that’s a hell of a lot of numbers!

I can randomly select a block of 50 numbers and run them through a test series. Sorry Mister I wish I had more time.... 

Have you played these numbers?

[jono1167]

Thanks Mister Eko, that’s a hell of a lot of numbers!

I can randomly select a block of 50 numbers and run them through a test series. Sorry Mister I wish I had more time.... 

Have you played these numbers?

Actually Mister Eko, I'll use them all, from start to finish! It will save me physically activating every single spin.

That's actually a really valuable resource.

Thanks for sharing 

[Andre Chass]

Hello guys,

Let's imagine the following situation ...

I'm going to the roulette table...
Let's pretend that the following sequence/triplex occurred. (1,1,2)
I then start betting on the dominant (1). I can win or lose. Right?

Actually the triplex did not happen in the past spins. I just pretended that it occurred. Do you understand the point here?

The wheel doesn't give a crap on what happened in the past.

That's the problem with most systems.
Repeaters, uniques, trends, patterns, etc are all  only in your head.

Most of the systems I use to play baccarat, I bet  that an extremely rare event will not occur. That's the way I like it.

Soon I'll post some of my strategies here.

Please be polite.

Cheers