Sparks' Vaddis Grail

[Gitano]

Wow Bigbroben!You are a master really.
If I don't want to bet the first pair OR the first and the second terms of the progression? what I have to modify ?
Quite sure it has better results..at least in my papers studies it has.
Start with 111122 from the 2th spin after the trigger..

[Proofreaders2000]

I have a tweak (if I may)
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Track the last nine outcomes.  Is there
a Vaddi pairing? (If not continue to track).

When you have your pair bet the pair and the
newest two outcomes (those four) for up to nine spins.

Example: 12,3,0,14,31,20,7,34,15 (newest spin-value)

Bet 14,15 & 7,34 for up to nine spins.

[Bigbroben]

If I don't want to bet the first pair OR the first and the second terms of the progression? what I have to modify ?
Quite sure it has better results..at least in my papers studies it has.
Start with 111122 from the 2th spin after the trigger..

Not to bet the first pair, what do you mean?  Not bet the trigger pair?

As for the prog, try this maybe?

[Proofreaders2000]

I have a tweak (if I may)
==============================
Track the last nine outcomes.  Is there
a Vaddi pairing? (If not continue to track).

When you have your pair bet the pair and the
newest two outcomes (those four) for up to nine spins.

Example: 12,3,0,14,31,20,7,34,15 (newest spin-value)

Bet 14,15 & 7,34 for up to nine spins.

v0.1 Bet the Vaddi Pair and the two
newest outcomes each spin for up to nine spins.

Example: 12,3,0,14,31,20,7,34,15 (newest spin-value)

Bet 14,15 & 7,34:    1.) 3(x)-4       

bet 14,15 & 34,3:    2.) 12(x)-4

Bet 14,15 & 3,12....

[buffalowizard]

Nice Proof. How to harness all these ideas and figure out which one is best? Means we all need to test test test

[Proofreaders2000]

Thanks Buffalowizard.  Hopefully this will give Sparks some new ideas.

[Gitano]

Nice Proof. How to harness all these ideas and figure out which one is best? Means we all need to test test test

This lead to a little bit of confusion.Those Ideas are good but, for example I've notice that is rare that the trigger pair shows in the very first spin ..so it's 2 units save.. :DI could wait almost the second spins and start bet with 6 units on 6 numbers with x1 and start the progression.I've noticed that often it win..With the excel file that Bigbroben provided I will test it. But this is already a different way from VaddiSparks..

Other ideas like Proofreaders2000 should be tested too. I think we can all continue in this same thread.

[buffalowizard]

This lead to a little bit of confusion.Those Ideas are good but, for example I've notice that is rare that the trigger pair shows in t3he very first spin ..so it's 2 units save.. :DI could wait almost the second spins and start bet with 6 units on 6 numbers with x1 and start the progression.I've noticed that often it win..With the excel file that Bigbroben provided I will test it. But this is already a different way from VaddiSparks..

Other ideas like Proofreaders2000 should be tested too. I think we can all continue in this same thread.

I also noticed how first spin win is rare event. Also there are lots of wins on 3rd spin, which is unfortunately the smallest pay out on the progression +8. We could skip first bet, though this will lead to higher stakes overall due to betting more numbers further down the progression. Instead of 1-6, you thinking 2-7 or even 3-8?

[buffalowizard]

BW,
I think this is it.

Have a look, try it, and tell me if you see any bug, errors, or if you want other stats/ parameters.

Max steps: I entered ''6'' cuz you use 6 steps.  Enter another nr to adjust the prog columns  in A&B.

Thanks so much BigRoben,

Please excuse my ignorance but how do we input new numbers into the excel . Also, how do we somehow copy/paste the results or charts into here, so I can share results?
BW

[Bigbroben]

I also noticed how first spin win is rare event. Also there are lots of wins on 3rd spin, which is unfortunately the smallest pay out on the progression +8. We could skip first bet, though this will lead to higher stakes overall due to betting more numbers further down the progression. Instead of 1-6, you thinking 2-7 or even 3-8?

In 1000 runs of 200 spins, the percentage y  of wins in x spins was so ( Excel random, though):


Just like normal repeaters, you can save a few units by avoiding playing spins 1 and 2, but then you're exposed to flying by quick, profitable hits.

[Bigbroben]

Thanks so much BigRoben,

Please excuse my ignorance but how do we input new numbers into the excel . Also, how do we somehow copy/paste the results or charts into here, so I can share results?
BW

Put them in column E.  Delete the actual nrs first or just copy/paste the new ones on top if the amount of nrs is the same.

To share results, I have a Snagit software, but I don't know what you have...

[Gitano]

Thanks so much BigRoben,

Please excuse my ignorance but how do we input new numbers into the excel . Also, how do we somehow copy/paste the results or charts into here, so I can share results?
BW

@Buffalo,

right click on column E and clear content.


@Bigbroben, do you think the curve remain the same betting starting on spin 2-7 , escaping 1th bet , starting with four numbers?
Could you please modify the excel deleting the first pair ?I am not been able

[Bigbroben]

@Bigbroben, do you think the curve remain the same betting starting on spin 2-7 , escaping 1th bet , starting with four numbers?
Could you please modify the excel deleting the first pair ?I am not been able

Do you not playing the trigger pair?

Yes I think the curve stays the same shape.

[buffalowizard]

Cheers guys I will share spme test totals later on. How does it look in your early viewings ?

[Gitano]

Good good good..
Playing from first pairs I've noticed better total Bankrolls with (~70)/100 spins than 200 spins.