Does random have limits?

[MoneyT101]

I'm assuming we're trying to find an edge. Can still do that,  even if the pockets are labelled differently with something other than numbers.

Exactly!!!  What I am saying is that if you have a way to win.  You can win no matter where the numbers come from.

We can play roulette with rng/live wheel/even write the numbers on a piece of paper and pull out of a hat.

Doesn’t matter what comes out, Doesn’t matter if you have losses.  At the end of the cycle you will be at +1

The repeat can come on spin 1 or spin 100.  +1 will be the result

It all starts here....

15 spins..why can’t you go through all 15 spins without a repeat of a dozen on the same line using my chart?

[Steve]

[MoneyT101]

 

[Herby]

It all starts here....

15 spins..why can’t you go through all 15 spins without a repeat of a dozen on the same line using my chart?

Hi Money101,
Would the following also be true for you ?
Without 0:
You get at least your first repeat of a dozen on the same line by spin #10.

Why do you insist on 15 numbers ?

[MoneyT101]

Hi Money101,
Would the following also be true for you ?
Without 0:
You get at least your first repeat of a dozen on the same line by spin #10.

Why do you insist on 15 numbers ?

Without 0 by spin 10 yes

Spins1-15 rng dozen outcome

1. 3 ..... 4. 2 ..... 7. 3 .....10. 2 .... 13. 3
2. 1 ..... 5. 2 ..... 8. 2 .... 11. 1 .... 14. 2
3. 2 ..... 6. 3 ..... 9. 3 .... 12. 3 ....15. 3

Now I have my 15 spins.... for this experiment I’m writing it out in rows of 3 but honestly it doesn’t matter. 

Now if I take row 1 which consist of spins 1,4,7,10,13 have the results 32323

What I am saying is mathematically it’s impossible using real spins or rng to go through all 15 spins without getting a repeat on the same line

So in this case 323.... by spin 7 the line had a repeat.   The repeat could start spin 4-6.  Even if you include zero outcomes.  For this not to be true you will need 6 zeros placed in specific spots and for the dozens not to repeat in specific spots.

Yes this is the same thing Pri was speaking about cycles just a different angle.

[buffalowizard]

How're you playing this then Money?

Wait for first line to go by before betting 10 stage prog on 12numbers?

If it is actually impossible for a repeat not to occur in 15, surely you are tearing it up in the casinos left, right and centre? Is that why you're called Money?!

[MoneyT101]

How're you playing this then Money?

I shared the principle! The idea.... but for the play you need to practice and learn what the information means.  There are multiple ways to use the info. 

Wait for first line to go by before betting 10 stage prog on 12numbers?

If it is actually impossible for a repeat not to occur in 15, surely you are tearing it up in the casinos left, right and centre? Is that why you're called Money?!

After testing so long and losing you get hesitant about playing something without making sure it works.... I played for the first time yesterday to be honest with you. I went with a sheet of paper and wrote down the spins and did my calculations.  Took me about an hour and half to play just 21 spins 🤦‍â™,️.  I was distracted a bit cause personal life issues and my mind was somewhere else. But still I played multiple games at same time.

-played the rng machine at the casino
-Made 84 units in 21 spins
-Highest bet was 1 unit on 4 different streets
- 1 unit on 3 different splits
- 1 unit on 4 different straights
- missed two wins on street cause I overlooked the play

Here are my spins...
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31
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11
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36
8
24
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35
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5
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32

[buffalowizard]

After testing so long and losing you get hesitant about playing something without making sure it works.... I played for the first time yesterday to be honest with you. I went with a sheet of paper and wrote down the spins and did my calculations.  Took me about an hour and half to play just 21 spins 🤦‍â™,️.  I was distracted a bit cause personal life issues and my mind was somewhere else. But still I played multiple games at same time.

-played the rng machine at the casino
-Made 84 units in 21 spins
-Highest bet was 1 unit on 4 different streets
- 1 unit on 3 different splits
- 1 unit on 4 different straights
- missed two wins on street cause I overlooked the play

Here are my spins...
20
31
14
5
11
30
20
36
8
24
12
27
35
4
3
26
28
5
10
25
32

Thank you I guess!
Cue page upon page of people trying to come up with the secret sauce without it ever being revealed.
I think I'll just start doing this from now on with my ideas

[MoneyT101]

This is where the general and Steve and the math experts cry cause they think im saying you can win with the idea I’m using to get my point across.

Now I’m not saying the 15 spin example is a winning method!!  This is the principle this is the idea.  This is just showing the limit of random for dozens which is 4 spins.

You need to understand the concept and need a tad bit of creativity.   Took me over 3 and a half years to see it 🤦‍â™,️ But it’s staring you in the face I can tell you that much.  Pri hinted it multiple times but lack of understanding; it gets ignored or we are blinded.  But she flat out tells you what to do 😅

But once you see it you can’t unsee it.

I’m sure there is more advanced ways to use it but you don’t need it. With patience and sticking to the principle.

The event has to happen!!!

No combination of numbers can happen to break the principle

[MoneyT101]

Thank you I guess!
Cue page upon page of people trying to come up with the secret sauce without it ever being revealed.
I think I'll just start doing this from now on with my ideas

The topic is called “does random have a limit?” 

I gave my 15 spin chart example to make it simple.  I shared my view... I gave hints about what to look for..

In no way shape or form did I say I’m revealing a method   

[2BobBet]

Money

You need to understand the concept and need a tad bit of creativity.   Took me over 3 and a half years to see it 🤦‍â™,️ But it’s staring you in the face I can tell you that much.  Pri hinted it multiple times but lack of understanding; it gets ignored or we are blinded.  But she flat out tells you what to do 😅


Can you tell us what Thread and page/post number this info was in ?, looks interesting but need some more info about this concept

[Irish88]

Money

You need to understand the concept and need a tad bit of creativity.   Took me over 3 and a half years to see it 🤦‍â™,️ But it’s staring you in the face I can tell you that much.  Pri hinted it multiple times but lack of understanding; it gets ignored or we are blinded.  But she flat out tells you what to do 😅


Can you tell us what Thread and page/post number this info was in ?, looks interesting but need some more info about this concept

2bob,

These 2 threads might help. I have tried to figure it out but I can't seem to grasp it. Something about a double street or two but when to play them. For the record I do believe MoneyT has a winning method.

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=19562.0

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=19684.msg186007#msg186007

If anyone figures it let me know!

[Firefox]

There's no limit on random numbers because one of the definitions of random numbers is that previous results have no influence on previous ones. Posting a win over 21 spins is meaningless. Posting a win over 1021 spins is meaningless.

Define a strategy over millions and billions of spins with relation to the RNG algorithm being used and you may have a case. Because RNG generators are not truly random like an unbiased physical wheel can be. But they are certainly random over billions and trillions (and many powers more) spins depending on methods. Trying to predict over 15 or 21 spins is laughable.

[Steve]

At what point do we stop calling flat earthers uneducated, and start calling them really stupid?

We can post all the proof imaginable. The response will be something like "you naysayer".

[Elite]

i think HG also has limits