Does random have limits?

[Firefox]

There's no limit on random numbers because one of the definitions of random numbers is that previous results have no influence on *previous ones.

*present or future ones

[Let Me Win]

We could ask a better question like does random behave differently when it's being observed?

As like in the double slit experiment.

[Firefox]

The times when the wheel is not random are the times when you can legitimately beat the game.

Not by a staking system which throws higher losing bets at fixed odds, but by exploitation of an actual change in the odds themselves.

[Mister Eko]

The times when the wheel is not random are the times when you can legitimately beat the game.

Not by a staking system which throws higher losing bets at fixed odds, but by exploitation of an actual change in the odds themselves.

But the odds not changes in roulette.

[buffalowizard]

But the odds not changes in roulette.

He's talking about VB and wobbly wheels. Odds dont come into it

[Firefox]

He's talking about VB and wobbly wheels. Odds dont come into it

Not just VB or wobbly wheels. Computer ballistics, dealers signature principles, or exploiting RNG algorithms. All come under categories of manipulating odds, rather than a staking system of manipulating bets.

[Steve]

In other words,  AP is anything that works. Not because it's my preference. Because it increases accuracy of predictions. But if it makes some people feel better, say AP is nonsense.

[MoneyT101]

Money

You need to understand the concept and need a tad bit of creativity.   Took me over 3 and a half years to see it 🤦‍â™,️ But it’s staring you in the face I can tell you that much.  Pri hinted it multiple times but lack of understanding; it gets ignored or we are blinded.  But she flat out tells you what to do 😅


Can you tell us what Thread and page/post number this info was in ?, looks interesting but need some more info about this concept

Dyksexlic => Reddwarf/rrbb=> Priyanka

These are my mentors and the correct order, but to learn better and understand it’s best you start backwards

Random thoughts by Priyanka
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=15938.0

Then systems shared by Priyanka have somethings in common pay attention to that.....and read the post 6 months before the random thoughts thread.  Then the post after the thread where Priyanka creativity comes in.

Outside the box by RRBB
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=17115.0
Read all post by rrbb but mainly that thread

rrbb/reddwarf....Find his last few post.  I can’t remember if it’s in the old forum

At this point read my post.  You can pretty much see my journey from the beginning.  To where I started understanding cycles.  To where I thought I figured things out.  To where I started getting creative and trying new things.  Read my last few post because I share a lot of hints especially in this topic on page 1.  But you won’t understand without the knowledge you will learn from Priyanka and rrbb.

Dyksexlic is the originator but in his post it’s a little harder to pick up on the hints.  But either way read his post in the old forum.  But get into his post last; once you have a better understanding.

Don’t confuse what you are being taught with the actual method.  The teaching is to get you to see things a little different.  Try to ask yourself questions to make sure you understand what you are looking at and what’s happening.

Took me over 3.5 years, and I still don’t believe I have the exact method dyksexlic has but I have something that works for me.  I win every cycle on a positive +1.  Doesn’t matter which combination of numbers comes out. 

[MoneyT101]

2bob,

These 2 threads might help. I have tried to figure it out but I can't seem to grasp it. Something about a double street or two but when to play them. For the record I do believe MoneyT has a winning method.

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=19562.0

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=19684.msg186007#msg186007

If anyone figures it let me know!

Start with what I just posted now

[MoneyT101]

There's no limit on random numbers because one of the definitions of random numbers is that previous results have no influence on previous ones. Posting a win over 21 spins is meaningless. Posting a win over 1021 spins is meaningless.

Define a strategy over millions and billions of spins with relation to the RNG algorithm being used and you may have a case. Because RNG generators are not truly random like an unbiased physical wheel can be. But they are certainly random over billions and trillions (and many powers more) spins depending on methods. Trying to predict over 15 or 21 spins is laughable.

Yes your right... sorry I’m playing a game on paper and using roulette as my source of picking my random number.  I’m not playing based on what happens on the roulette game. I’m playing based on what happens on my paper.  So I guess it’s different idk.  Don’t care!!!

You can call that anything you like.

Now I played 21 spins because I handwrite spins and make my calculations.  So it takes me longer to play live.   

But I’ve tested for a long time.  Not hours, not days,not months.... been years!!!!!

If you understood the difference of what I’m doing to all the crap in this forum.  You would understand how logical it is and you would know that it doesn’t need 1000 of spins to test.  I just tested for a long time to build confidence after failing for so long.

[MoneyT101]

So let’s take my 15 spin example to share more info.

Once the repeat happens...

1.That’s the end of the game
2. That’s the end of the progression if one was used.

By this point you made your profit.  You can’t carry your balance over to the next game.  The next game the repeat may take longer and if you have a balance you will have a hard time getting back to even money.

So when the cycle ends!  You finished and start over.

[MoneyT101]

Using my paper experiment.  Where you write down the outcomes.  Yes all numbers are possible!  All the time!!!

-But what do we know?... that because the game is random we can’t get all the numbers to come out every time without getting a repeated number.

-So every number is possible but the reality of it...it’s not going to happen EVERYTIME.    It doesn’t matter it if happens 1 time out of 100.  If done correctly you lose but the cycle isn’t over!  So why are you worried?

-The reason is because as more numbers come out it shifts from numbers that came out and numbers that haven’t came out.  So the side with with numbers that hit increases while the side that hasn’t decreases

-This can be easily seen with the cycles spreadsheet that was posted in the random topic thread.   

[Steve]

Your paper decides the winning number. It is the link to the odds. Its a paper game. So it doesnt matter what happens on the wheel.

Right?

Am i being a naysayer, or just not an idiot?

[Firefox]

There is no cycle or cycles. Every spin is a new independent spin on a fair random wheel.

[MoneyT101]

Your paper decides the winning number. It is the link to the odds. Its a paper game. So it doesnt matter what happens on the wheel.

Right?

Am i being a naysayer, or just not an idiot?

Yes the winning number is found on the paper.

Yes when I bet on the table I’m paid on the odds of the game

Yes when I play I lose and win

Cycle ends=+1 minimum