Junscessorhands HG.

[Kan@am@]

In my first post I didn't mentioned that this is only top of the iceberg.There is a few systems prior that eventually led to last version of it.But last one is most efficient and most profitable(I hope).Basically I got all these original notes from original developer  and if anyone is interested than send me PM and I will provide that information.I don't want to post it here because it will take a lot of space in this topic and other reason is to get into  discussion  these who is  interested.

[Turkish4]

In my first post I didn't mentioned that this is only top of the iceberg.There is a few systems prior that eventually led to last version of it.But last one is most efficient and most profitable(I hope).Basically I got all these original notes from original developer  and if anyone is interested than send me PM and I will provide that information.I don't want to post it here because it will take a lot of space in this topic and other reason is to get into  discussion  these who is  interested.

Sent you a PM

[nottophammer]

You never bet more than 16 numbers.you may bet 8 from the top of the marquee or their neighbours from the real wheel.
After some testing I realized that trigger is most likely 3 repeats in 8 spin range or 3 neighbours in 8 spin range.And its very unusual how repeater appears after 3 neighbours. Usually it will happen 1 spin after last neighbour that appears in 8 spin range.

Turkish 4.
1st repeat is when? When will there be 3 repeats? Good questions.
Below you see a random.org time stamp and 730; you see checkpoints.
These checkpoints cover 40 spins and an answer for 60 spins.
There are a total of 730 games of 148 spins.
You can see the average for the 1st 10 spins is   so 1 repeat in 10 spins, you can see also spins 1-10; 1st 10 numbers gave 10/10; 199 times out of the 730 games.

[nottophammer]

What else can we get from the 730 sets?

Above is how the non-hit came over the 148 spins. From the checkpoint you can see how they came.

Below where you see ** explains the 18, +3

So what do you have? You can see that you got 24.70 non-hits on average over 40 spins.
I prefer to take the 9non-hit from spins 1-10 away from the 24.70 and have 15.70 non-hit hit over spins 11-40.
**Those 30 spins, if you drop the .70 would make 15 non-hit, hit in 30 spins, giving a 50/50 over 30 spins.

[nottophammer]

Look at 60 spins for game 730; 30 of the stating 37 have hit giving a 50/50 of repeat and non-hit.

[nottophammer]

Now I was not interested in 1st 10 spins so the only way to show is to show you part of Priyanka’s tester.

So what is the average to hit, for non-hits? Well the average to hit is the same as Random.org for the Generals posted spins and live posted spins from German casino. And the average to hit is 2 spins up to the 19th non-hit.
The above the 1st 4 gave a repeat, the #16 or spin 5 the pairing from the mat.
What about here?

Can you find Vaddi way or Juns way?

[nottophammer]

With average to hit in 2 spins the larger group is what?


The question is the max spins; max spins are repeats but how often does it affect the non-hit the starting larger group?

[Irish88]

Maybe you look at the last 8 numbers and bet their two wheel neighbors. You don't bet the number that has come out. Just bet the two wheel neighbors. But neighbors will hit so the number on the marquee will be incorporated sometimes so you are not missing out on a repeater. You won't get every one but you will get most. If there is a repeat in the set of 8, you include the repeat and two wheel neighbors. You bet on these 16 numbers until new profit high and reset.

[Bigbroben]

You never bet more than 16 numbers.you may bet 8 from the top of the marquee or their neighbours from the real wheel.
After some testing I realized that trigger is most likely 3 repeats in 8 spin range or 3 neighbours in 8 spin range.And its very unusual how repeater appears after 3 neighbours. Usually it will happen 1 spin after last neighbour that appears in 8 spin range.

Kanam,
you allow me to share the tracker I did for you?

[Kan@am@]

Kanam,
you allow me to share the tracker I did for you?

Yes,but there was some glitch in last version .I couldn't use it.

[Kan@am@]

Maybe you look at the last 8 numbers and bet their two wheel neighbors. You don't bet the number that has come out. Just bet the two wheel neighbors. But neighbors will hit so the number on the marquee will be incorporated sometimes so you are not missing out on a repeater. You won't get every one but you will get most. If there is a repeat in the set of 8, you include the repeat and two wheel neighbors. You bet on these 16 numbers until new profit high and reset.

This system is not require to bet on every spin.

[Bigbroben]

Yes,but there was some glitch in last version .I couldn't use it.

I think I had modified it a bit later on.

Anyway, that's a start.

[Shogun]

Maybe you look at the last 8 numbers and bet their two wheel neighbors. You don't bet the number that has come out. Just bet the two wheel neighbors. But neighbors will hit so the number on the marquee will be incorporated sometimes so you are not missing out on a repeater. You won't get every one but you will get most. If there is a repeat in the set of 8, you include the repeat and two wheel neighbors. You bet on these 16 numbers until new profit high and reset.

Hi Irish.  I noticed you mentioned this a couple of times.  I had the same thoughts and did some testing.  Could not get it to work for me unfortunately. But I think it’s close.
Do you test with RX?

[Irish88]

Hi Irish.  I noticed you mentioned this a couple of times.  I had the same thoughts and did some testing.  Could not get it to work for me unfortunately. But I think it’s close.
Do you test with RX?

I only test with RS. I don't really know how to code with RX. I have tried a lot of different ways, with the great input of BBB, Mako, Proof, Sparks,Jono and 6th. I can't really get anything to work that I would play in the casino. I have gone back and forth 100 times playing table pairs or wheel pairs. Even yesterday and today I was testing table pairs. But as someone who only plays on live wheels my gut tells me it's based on the wheel. Let's face it, neighbors hit quite often. I am a wheel player to begin with. Thats the only way I play. I think 6-th back to basics thread showed it best.

I don't know if anything is as mechanical as we want to think it is. I think you just have to kind of feel where the ball is going based on where it's been recently. Hit pairs from the wheel in other words. Eventually pairs turn into three, four and fives. You can't catch everything.  I think you are constantly moving with the wheel of that makes sense. I could be wrong.

A couple of things that Vaddi says but seems to be forgotten. Look up at the top of the marquee and copy exactly what the WHEEL is doing.

He also mentioned how if there is a dealer signature then you really can take advantage of what is going on.

So right now I am looking at the last 4 numbers out and bet their two wheel neighbors. I do this for four spins. If I get a hit I reset with last 4 numbers and wheel neighbors. If I don't win in 4 spins. I start new process with last 4 numbers out.

[Shogun]

I only test with RS. I don't really know how to code with RX. I have tried a lot of different ways, with the great input of BBB, Mako, Proof, Sparks,Jono and 6th. I can't really get anything to work that I would play in the casino. I have gone back and forth 100 times playing table pairs or wheel pairs. Even yesterday and today I was testing table pairs. But as someone who only plays on live wheels my gut tells me it's based on the wheel. Let's face it, neighbors hit quite often. I am a wheel player to begin with. Thats the only way I play. I think 6-th back to basics thread showed it best.

I don't know if anything is as mechanical as we want to think it is. I think you just have to kind of feel where the ball is going based on where it's been recently. Hit pairs from the wheel in other words. Eventually pairs turn into three, four and fives. You can't catch everything.  I think you are constantly moving with the wheel of that makes sense. I could be wrong.

A couple of things that Vaddi says but seems to be forgotten. Look up at the top of the marquee and copy exactly what the WHEEL is doing.

He also mentioned how if there is a dealer signature then you really can take advantage of what is going on.

So right now I am looking at the last 4 numbers out and bet their two wheel neighbors. I do this for four spins. If I get a hit I reset with last 4 numbers and wheel neighbors. If I don't win in 4 spins. I start new process with last 4 numbers out.

Thanks for the reply.  I’ve been testing many variants. Don’t post a lot but love reading and testing along with you guys.  At the moment I’m testing similar to you but using a rolling 4 numbers and there pairs. Or just the pairs. Find 6 worked better than four. Still lots of testing to do. I’m using the wheel pairs at the moment. Easier for me to code. But to be honest not sure it matters wheel or table.  I interpret vaddis balance as a number hit and an unhit number
Or two ? To balance. Whether it’s wheel based or table.
If you have Rx you can use real spins to test. 
Pm me your email if you want my code.