RNG vs REAL Wheel (opinion)

[albalaha]

Buddy,
               Betvoyager is a very good casino but playtech is noway rigged. If you want an RNG to generate numbers in your favourite pattern, forget it. In long run, you will always lose. Actually, you can not sustain any RNG if you play with pattern or even money bets with Martingale.

[iggiv]

we agree to disagree here. no problem 

[albalaha]

I personally feel that RNG is easier to win than live and there can be very few software makers or casino whose RNG roulette can be manipulated to counter all that you bet. It is just not possible to generate numbers against you all the time. Randomness is itself a killing concept.

[iggiv]

nice. so can u pls share some way to beat playtech RNG. even on short runs. like not to lose after 100 spins. If u bet of course.

the truth is that people which can frequently can beat live wheel still feel hopeless against playtech RNG.

it is not about randomness my friend. it is real counter-play. U don't know. I told u a guy which worked for them, admitted it. their RNG is not random. Why would he lie? But their
algorithm is very complicated. These are very tricky patterns they play, believe me. U can not even prove anything, u just gonna lose no matter what. Anybody who tried the same stuff with live wheel and playtech RNG, knows, that while the same tactics can often win on live wheel, are doomed on playtech RNG.

so don't tell me about randomness.

try to play real money in playtech RNG, bet 35 numbers, very soon u will hit the single number which u did not cover. Much sooner than it is gonna happen in live wheel.
i am talking about averages. on average what can hold ground on live wheel for some time, will not hold ground on playtech RNG.

Maybe some special tactics can beat it? maybe. but they have nothing to do with randomness, they can only work like in chess, when u expect the other side to make a certain move.

but again -- it has nothing to do with randomness

[albalaha]

Dear IGGIV,
                  you are using the language of losers. Again I tell you an RNG just generates a number everytime you click spin and not a dozen/column/line/street/split/trio/corner/red/black/even/odd/low/high
If you play RNG by these foolish concepts and want to earn consistantly by pattern playing any random number will kill you.
                        I think you do not know the difference between randomness and probabilities/ law of averages. Randomness means unpredictible and without any order and law of probability and averages tells that every number/dozen/column/line/street/split/trio/corner/red/black/even/odd/low/high  have equal chances of coming.  My doctrine of uneven distribution says every number has equal chance of appearing in long run but they will not appear evenly and if you can use this to your advantage then only you can win. To make it simple you can not expect that 5 red and 5 black number shall apear within next 10 spins in this manner: RBRBRBRBRB  or all three dozens will appear one after another because in such situations everybody shall win and RNG roulette is tailor made to not let this happen often.Some numbers will appear and reappear and some will become sleeper.
There is no simple RNG or complex RNG. Random numbers very soon kill pattern finders/players.

[iggiv]

oh my my my

i really did not know about sleepers and equal chances on a long run. OK i use language of losers and u use language of winners.

can u tell me more about sleepers. How do they sleep -- on the floor or on some mat, or sleeping bags maybe.

just blah-blah-blah. All this info u tell me so seriously everybody knows about. Everybody who deals with roulette.

take care, mr.  Winner Language User. Wish u to win with your language in roulette as easy as u do in this fruitless discussion

[albalaha]

dear Iggiv,
                      I am a consistant winner and I have proved it again and again for RNG as well as for live. if you do not know about me see "online casino" section of this forum and my post with proof regarding my winnings in RNG casinos completing wagering requirements of upto 60 times. Have you ever done this? Secondly, go to vlsroulette.com and under "challenges" section see Noblesavage 100 spins live roulette challenge and see my consistant winnings. I am not a paper tiger like you. I openly challenge and prove myself again and again. I do not want empty arguments and mudslinging. you have every right to not to believe me but please do not use harsh language.

[iggiv]

Dear mr albalaha!

where did I use harsh language?

Were that not U that told me that I speak a loser language (just because we disagreed on something about RNG) ? did not U call me a paper tiger?
I can see your arrogance, that's what I can see clearly. And when you try to explain to me that
in roulette exist such things as sleepers and that on long run there is equal distribution of the numbers -- I call it ridiculous. I know such things from my first days in roulette. Actually about equal distribution of numbers i know for long time, since my university studies as far as i remember. Even that u consider me so stupid and tell such things.

if you're a winner, and get a question from someone  you consider a loser (and by the way you don't even know for sure who I am -- winner or loser, but you try to judge me anyway) , either don't beat around the bush and answer it normally please, or just don't answer. But please don't give this great news about sleepers in roulette and equal distribution on a long run. Everybody knows such things after dealing with roulette a month or two.

And also don't try turning tables on your opponent while U r calling him a loser and a paper tiger. I find your arrogance WRONG, and you still try in the same time to teach me manners, which I also find wrong, since I DID NOT use any harsh language on  you, mr Winner. U DID -- on me. U r arrogant, not me. U consider me a loser and a "paper tiger", not that I considered you one.

thanx a lot, mr. Real Tiger

[albalaha]

Ok, I take back my words against you and apologize if I hurt you. No more mudslinging and hot words. Dear Iggiv, I am not just an ordinary player but author of an e-book on roulette and a system tester. My only aim is to crush any casino be it RNG or live and I almost reached that level now. I claim to develop a holy grail and if in such level if someone try to teach me basics of roulette, I get crazy. You can see my contributions, debates and suggestions on all major roulette forums of the world with the same username albalaha.
                            dear Iggiv, concepts like sleepers, progressions, martingale, streaks etc. look very easy but it is just not easy to earn from them and that too regularly. That is what I am doing.Since I have completed wagering on Playtech's William Hill Casino by playing RNG roulette, I can never accept that it is rigged. I will not argue anymore on this topic. See you.

[iggiv]

good, accept my apologies please too. I have never tried to teach you anything. All i said was that in my opinion (and not only mine, but many people) Playtech RNG is not completely random, but rather reflecting you way of play. U disagree with me, i can understand that.

I have never expressed any doubts of your achievements. But after a while  I don't consider myself to be a newbie either. But my goal here is not to show my achievements or brag about them.

I am glad u could do it, and i am appreciated u gave some hints about using hot numbers.
Though myself I am exploring a wheel in different direction. In my opinion wheel itself has some kind of "rythm", if u watch it carefully. I don't claim to have long run proven winning strategy though.