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Am I wrong?

Started by Andre Chass, Mar 18, 10:46 PM 2019

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Andre Chass

Hello guys,

Let's imagine the following situation ...

I'm going to the roulette table...
Let's pretend that the following sequence/triplex occurred. (1,1,2)
I then start betting on the dominant (1). I can win or lose. Right?

Actually the triplex did not happen in the past spins. I just pretended that it occurred. Do you understand the point here?

The wheel doesn't give a crap on what happened in the past.

That's the problem with most systems.
Repeaters, uniques, trends, patterns, etc are all  only in your head.

Please be polite.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Firefox

Exactly.

You just exposed the fallacy. The wheel has no memory.

If you look at 100's and 1000's of spins you may be lucky to (possibly!) identify a trend on a number or sector due to defect or other factors.

But the last 50 spins are pretty useless. And trying to predict reds or blacks or EC or dozens is never possible with any analysis. That's why they have a marquee with the last 12 numbers, to encourage you to engage in a fruitless task and feed them profits.

Increased accuracy in prediction is the only way to beat the wheel.

Andre Chass

Using systems like Pattern Breaker or dominant 3 only gives us the feeling that we are in control  of the game and the losses come with more delay.
It's a psychological thing.

There's no difference if you bet Black and Red randomly. You'll just lose faster.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Blueprint

 If you really want to be able to beat roulette, you have to investigate if you can create a bet that depends on the RESULT of a previous bet.

Blood Angel

Quote from: Blueprint on Mar 19, 06:28 PM 2019
If you really want to be able to beat roulette, you have to investigate if you can create a bet that depends on the RESULT of a previous bet.
Would you care to elaborate a little more please?

MoneyT101

Quote from: Blood Angel on Mar 19, 06:45 PM 2019
Would you care to elaborate a little more please?

Look at the bet selection I posted.. something along those lines
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

Blueprint

Quote from: Blood Angel on Mar 19, 06:45 PM 2019
Would you care to elaborate a little more please?

Of course.

The ONLY way we can beat roulette is if we can devise a way so that the result of a constant bet A, depends on the result of a constant bet B. Where B occurred earlier in time.

What is a constant bet? "a constant bet is a fixed amount of chips on a fixed set of positions."

We deliberately use positions instead of numbers as these may be separated in time.

Blueprint

So, we have to think about dependency. 

Firefox

There's no dependency on a random wheel.

The only dependency people have is on the fallacy  and on negative progressions which give the illusion of short term games at the expense of thumping losses which will wipe out the gains and give the house its edge to boot.

Blueprint

Quote from: Firefox on Mar 19, 07:28 PM 2019
There's no dependency on a random wheel.

The only dependency people have is on the fallacy  and on negative progressions which give the illusion of short term games at the expense of thumping losses which will wipe out the gains and give the house its edge to boot.

I’ve told you about 5 times already I don’t need a wheel.  This is my last reply to you in this as you clearly can’t comprehend.

MoneyT101

Quote from: Blueprint on Mar 19, 07:43 PM 2019
I’ve told you about 5 times already I don’t need a wheel.  This is my last reply to you in this as you clearly can’t comprehend.

😂😂😂 I felt the same way with the same guy

Ppl keep talking about wheels and I’m talking numbers

Wheel doesn’t mean anything it’s just a way for you to spin and get a random result!!!

When you guys learn that then you can learn to play different games
Simple once you get it!  Chased all the pigeons away and they were already in their hole

Firefox

Numbers are useless. They are simply names for pockets. They could be anything. They have no logical significance.  If you don't relate to pockets and sectors, you are simply playing numerology which is as good as pissing in the wind.

Andre Chass

Quote from: Firefox on Mar 19, 08:17 PM 2019
Numbers are useless. They are simply names for pockets. They could be anything. They have no logical significance.  If you don't relate to pockets and sectors, you are simply playing numerology which is as good as pissing in the wind.

Exactly!

Once I believed betting on repeaters or uniques worked, until I realized it was a fallacy. You bet on 12 repeaters or 12 random numbers is the same thing.
The wheel doesn't care.
Unless is a defective wheel
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

Maui13

Quote from: Andre Chass on Mar 18, 10:46 PM 2019

The wheel doesn't give a crap on what happened in the past.

That's the problem with most systems.
Repeaters, uniques, trends, patterns, etc are all  only in your head.



You tell me what you see in these numbers? 

13
24
34
15
30
19
20
7
2
30
4
29
26
28
35
0
22
20
7
8
2
4
19
12
5
36
13
13
14
20
35
24
11
33
32
9

Then, I'll continue what I think about your statement.
Trust the timing of your life!

Andre Chass

I see names for pockets. Random numbers.

There are two possibilities:
If there are repeated numbers, it is mere coincidence.
If there are repeated numbers, it is a biased wheel. (Very hard to find nowadays.)

In any case, nothing you tell me will make me change my mind.
Nothing ventured, nothing gained...

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