Unique Numbers Question

[Blueprint]

Thank you for your OPINION. 

The FACT is, wherever the repeat ends I am in a profit or worst case scenario - break even.

That is the composition of a winning system.   

I’m amazed as how insecure you all are with your B.S (belief systems).

Enjoy watching all those wheels, General. 

[The General]

Thank you for your OPINION. 

The FACT is, wherever the repeat ends I am in a profit or worst case scenario - break even.

That is the composition of a winning system.   

I’m amazed as how insecure you all are with your B.S (belief systems).

Enjoy watching all those wheels, General.

Blueprint,

Perhaps you can point to where I am in error? 

[Firefox]

Firefox

What is the chance of 37/37 in a row unique. I dont understand the "e" symbol.

Is it less or greater than 1 in a billion

E stands for exponent ie something raised to the power of. In this case 10. E14 means x10^14.  E-14 means x1/10^14.

In your case it's of the order of 1/10^15 (or 16, I cant quite remember off hand)

1 in a  billion is 1/10^9 so it is of the order of a million times less likely than that.

[The General]

E stands for exponent ie something raised to the power of. In this case 10. E14 means x10^14.  E-14 means x1/10^14.

In your case it's of the order of 1/10^15 (or 16, I cant quite remember off hand)

1 in a  billion is 1/10^9 so it is of the order of a million times less likely than that.

Unfortunately, the system players are more focused on the past probability 1/10^15  rather than just the probability of winning the very next spin.

[Anastasius]

What is probabiltiy written like 1/100.000 for example

[Anastasius]

One of the first times i was at a casino.  A random guy told me the first time he ever recorded numbers he saw 37/37 .

Im not sure if he was implying it was a omen that he was some special player or not because i didnt believe him at all. So id like the know the probability in 1/100.000 or whatever because i cant read 10^ e 11^ and ur formulas

[Firefox]

What is probabiltiy written like 1/100.000 for example

1/1,000,000,000,000,000 (a millionth of a billionth)

Have you considered taking some evening classes in maths and probability theory ... it will be very useful and save you tons of money in the long run, if you are going to dabble with roulette. It's not meant to be facetious, just an honest suggestion!

[Anastasius]

I thought u only need bias and visuals? What does prob theory  matter  to u if its always 1/37

Also isnt saving tons of money about using self control and using smallest unit size

To me roulies is about statistics and other things.

Would be useful  to know but

[Firefox]

I asked you in another thread if a die were rolled 25 times without a 6 ocurring then what is the chance that a 6 comes on the next throw. You told me that the chance was increased from 1/6 but the odds remained the same. That's where probability matters. You can elevate yourself above 90% most other gamblers by making the right decision in situations like that.

You don't need to learn that much. Things like permutations and combinations, factorials, powers, tree diagrams, expected value in different situations, combining chances, standard deviation, binomial, normal distribution etc.

You could probably learn a lot on You Tube etc for free. It will be really useful in playing roulette. You can decide better what systems fit your style. (All the random ones lose, but they perform in different ways). You will work out when you have an edge if you get into AP, or how much and why you lose if you don't.

[Anastasius]

If u test a million spins in sets of uniques until the.first repeat and then re set

The most common amount of unique numbers before a first repeat will be 8.
So how is waiting for 8 uniques then doing 1 bet the same as picking 8 nunbers at random?

[Anastasius]

A further question i have is what is the mathematical  law that causes 8 to always be the most common  in this case. Why not sometimes 10 or 12 uniques etc

[Firefox]

A further question i have is what is the mathematical  law that causes 8 to always be the most common  in this case. Why not sometimes 10 or 12 uniques etc

That's to do with permutations and combinations. N!/(N-R)! R! Etc

If something is more common, there are more ways of arranging that combination of uniques and repeats in all the possible ways of arranging 37 numbers than there are of arranging say 37 uniques.

Look at just 3 numbers

Uniques:

123
132
213
231
312
321

Repeaters:

111
222
333
112
113
131
121
211
311
221
223
212
232
122
322
331
332
313
323
133
233

Each permutation has an equal chance of appearing. 1/27

But the permutations including repeats are  21/27 and the permutations with uniques are 6/27. So even with 3 numbers, you can see the pattern. With more numbers it is even more extreme. If you learned perms and combs theory, you can calculate all that. See how useful it is!

[Anastasius]

Yes permutations  like for 2 ec chance spins is 1/4 ..rr,bb,rb,br

So what about unique singles waiting for the first double up. Why is 8 always the most common. Even if say 10 uniques dominate for a while given.enough spins  8 will end up most common.

So how many times will it go above 8 uniques the return to hit at 8?
And how is this the same as betting 8 at random?

The statistical information is being used. In line with how the stats will end up long term

[Anastasius]

If chaos  was real wouldnt each level have its turn being dominant yet it has an "attraction" to settle at 8 or to gravitate back to 8..

[precogmiles]

Here's a question for the unique number guys...and law of the thirds folks.

On the single zero wheel you've just witnessed 36 unique numbers hit.  The only number that has yet to hit is the number 4, all of the other numbers have already hit.  If the number 4 hits on the next spin, then it means that all of the numbers will have hit exactly once in 37 spins.

The numbers that have already hit: 1,2,3,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18,19,20,21,22,23,24,25,26,27,28,29,30,31,32,33,34,35,36,0

The number that has not hit: 4



On the next spin( the 37th spin) is the number 4 more or less likely to hit than say.. the number 5? (Number 5 has already hit once.)
Which number do you feel has a higher probability of hitting on the next spin and why?

As I have said on another post:

Odds/probability of a given event does not exist it is a pseudo reality.

There are only probability frequencies in regards to knowledge.

So for example the average person would have a probability of 1/37 for knowing if a 4 would occur.

While a trained precog would have a higher probability for knowing a 4 would occur.

So to answer your question... it depends who is observing.

I don’t think anyone will like my answer but it is the reality.