Do you make these mistakes?

[Firefox]

Any tip ? Or we should simply skip extended tests and attack the game ASAP?

Keep a record of your prediction versus landing place. Work out the average error in pockets.

If it's less than 9.5  pockets US wheel  or 9.25 pockets EUR wheel then you should have an advantage over random selection.

You may see it referred to elsewhere as a RMS or root mean square error. This is to get rid of positive and negative error and combine into a single error figure but if you just count pockets and regard as positive whether the ball went past or didn't reach, add them all up and devide by the number of spins, you should get a good idea of whether your system is working for you.

This is important as you can have an edge but still lose a session, so you need to know if you are doing the right thing or need to adjust.

Chart courtesy of BigB 

[Proofreaders2000]

Speaking of sector betting.

Years ago I ran across a premise that says the ball should land
neighbor opposite of the second newest outcome (Five neighbors)

It also said if it does not (overall)
then the wheel is rigged and do not play.

Example: 0,20 (newest spin-value)

Count 19 clockwise neighbors from #0 (European Wheel)

Bet 16,24,5,10,23 once:    1.) 13(x)-5

19 clockwise neighbors from #20...

Bet 4,21,2,25,17....

[Roulettebeater]

Speaking of sector betting.

Years ago I ran across a premise that says the ball should land
neighbor opposite of the second newest outcome (Five neighbors)

It also said if it does not (overall)
then the wheel is rigged and do not play.

Example: 0,20 (newest spin-value)

Count 19 clockwise neighbors from #0 (European Wheel)

Bet 16,24,5,10,23 once:    1.) 13(x)-5

19 clockwise neighbors from #20...

Bet 4,21,2,25,17....

That’s a BS concept !
It never works like that .. you must look at the wheel from above and not from sides !

[Roulettebeater]

Keep a record of your prediction versus landing place. Work out the average error in pockets.

If it's less than 9.5  pockets US wheel  or 9.25 pockets EUR wheel then you should have an advantage over random selection.

You may see it referred to elsewhere as a RMS or root mean square error. This is to get rid of positive and negative error and combine into a single error figure but if you just count pockets and regard as positive whether the ball went past or didn't reach, add them all up and devide by the number of spins, you should get a good idea of whether your system is working for you.

This is important as you can have an edge but still lose a session, so you need to know if you are doing the right thing or need to adjust.

Chart courtesy of BigB 

Yes, but I have really not much time !
Suppose that two players use same system ( which has an edge), player 1 use negative progression and ran out of money, while player 2 uses flat bet and also lose in that session, at the end of the day player 2 is up while player 1 is out of money !

The good thing is that both players use same system which has an edge ...

Conclusion, progressions are really dangerous even with edge system !

[Steve]

Proof, you aren't asking WHY that might be the case. Start looking at cause and effect. Generally what you said is nonsense. But the person who originally said it is probably referring to a situation where there might be 2 dominant diamonds. With the ball and rotor travelling in opposite directions, the ball can miss one diamond then hit the other. If the ball hit the first diamond, the ball could land at say #0. With the second diamond, it could be #10, which is opposite #0. This is visual ballistics logic.

RB, if you want to confirm the validity of patterns with the least time and data, cross reference. Consider each variable and piece of data you have, and see how they relate to each other. Then if you understand the cause of effect (physics/logic), you can model the dynamic relationship so when conditions change, you account for the changes.

[Roulettebeater]

Proof, you aren't asking WHY that might be the case. Start looking at cause and effect. Generally what you said is nonsense. But the person who originally said it is probably referring to a situation where there might be 2 dominant diamonds. With the ball and rotor travelling in opposite directions, the ball can miss one diamond then hit the other. If the ball hit the first diamond, the ball could land at say #0. With the second diamond, it could be #10, which is opposite #0. This is visual ballistics logic.

RB, if you want to confirm the validity of patterns with the least time and data, cross reference. Consider each variable and piece of data you have, and see how they relate to each other. Then if you understand the cause of effect (physics/logic), you can model the dynamic relationship so when conditions change, you account for the changes.

Steve,

Thx for the advice.
What makes a player or a physics/ VB system  lose in one session and still comes ahead at the end of the day ?

Is it possible to avoid such situation ?

If the player uses low stakes, is it worth the effort ?

[Firefox]

What makes any system come out ahead in the long run but lose on the day? Simply your luck or varience on the day. This is often seen, especially with a small edge.

Take random betting on the US wheel. You are struggling against -5.26% house edge but it's quite possible to come away winning.

Same with an advantage system in reverse. It's quite possible to come away losing. With small advantages 0-10% you have to be prepared for losing sessions. Maybe 1 in 3.

What can be done about it? Nothing. That's the nature of the game. Unless you have a crushing advantage like 20-30% plus, you'll still have losing sessions. Even with a 20% advantage it's still possible to have the odd losing session.

[Roulettebeater]

Ok Firefox !
You’re giving us great infos!

Now, would you mind telling us more how a normal day of a Advantage gambler looks like ? How much money does the player bring with him to the casino ? When he joins the table ? And if he loses all his money, what comes next ?

[Firefox]

I start with about 100 units (£) I'm a low stakes player.

Out of 10 sessions may lose bankroll twice, be 100 up twice, 50 down once 50 up once, 30 up twice, 40 up twice. That's typical.

So only up £140 after 10 sessions including 3 losing sessions in 10. This is a grind method. It also depends on conditions. Usually pays for a meal! If I wanted to make a living from it, I'd need to play higher stakes. Say £1000 bankroll and £10 bets.

As for whether I play again after losing bankroll it depends on conditions and estimation of advantage. If I'm predicting well, say 7 pockets av error, may try again. It's quite possible for ball to fall near to bets and lose.

If I'm predicting badly or conditions are bad. I'll probably go home. You said you didn't have time to check your accuracy, but I think that's an important part of play. Winning consistently isn't easy and it takes time.

[Firefox]

I may not win every session, but at least I don't scam people and spread misinformation.

[ati]

study vaddis or Turbo and all your sessions will be winning ... the predictions are not the best! There are better things and better performance.

After all the study, many of you still don't realize that his forum name was Vaddi. The thread title should read "Vaddi's HG"

[Roulettebeater]

study vaddis or Turbo and all your sessions will be winning ... the predictions are not the best! There are better things and better performance.

i dont give a damn to what you say, or whoever you promoting.
as long as you are promoting someone, he definitely should be a loser!