Who else received this?

[Robbert]

Cant we just stop giving passion any attention?

If we dont respond to anything he is saying, he Will fly away.

[Firefox]

Cant we just stop giving passion any attention?

If we dont respond to anything he is saying, he Will fly away.

I think your advice is good for a troll who seeks response.

But it is misplaced in his case. He doesn't seek response, he just requires lurkers and newbies to send him enquiries.

If we don't respond, he will simply respond to himself, keeping his misinformation at the top of the forum.

I'd rather inform anyone new that is reading the true nature of his presence.

[Steve]

This happens every now and then. Anyone stupid enough to send him money deserves it.

Often it's the same person using a different name.

Identifying a scam is not difficult.

[Maui13]

So we have rules, but we'll just overlook them when it suits? Just asking...

Stern warning perhaps?


9. No "baiting", which is where you brag about how great your system is, but you don't share anything except perhaps obscure details that lead people along. The forum is a place for open sharing. If you "bait" people, expect to be banned.

[Steve]

Maui, you think he's not trying to scam people? Or you think he has the hg and needs money, out of the goodness of his heart?

Or maybe we have all been just negative nancies all along?

[Maui13]

Look, if it was up to me he would be banned.

But, it's not my place to say.

[Steve]

What he did was a clear rule violation. He was forced to scam privately because most people see what he is.

If I did what I thought was best for members, with that being my only consideration, I would have banned numerous members. But it seems people learn best when they learn for themselves.

The same shit repeats. And I'll say the same thing to the next generation, and they'll have the same response... why do you have a forum... you're being negative..  If you don't have anything nice to say.. etc.

[Firefox]

If you don't need the money as you say, and you think they are struggling, then give it to them for free.

[Steve]

Passion, you're tring to scam people, you're full of shit, and the people you claim were experts were just trolls misleading people.

[Steve]

Passion, you have no grounds to attack me. It is just blind retaliation for my statements about you, which appear true.

Are you sure that you are an expert player?

Or are you just a simple person who has programmed into an electronic device like cheating and that's why you think you're an expert?

Maybe do better research.

ou make me think, that really about what you do you are very good, but about systems of winning in a simple way, you are a newbie.

As newbie as proclaiming typical fallacy to be the HG, like you do? You don't even understand basic math yet claim to beat roulette with math.

never say you can not win in a simple way if you do not know if it is possible and never say that mathematically you can not win at roulette, because I could leave you wrong, only publishing one of my systems and make you lose all your sales.

As long as 37 is greater than 35, you wont beat roulette mathematically. So go ahead, destroy my desperate sales, my life, my everything.

Passion, you're just another forum scammer in a long line. Everyone here appears to see through you. I suspect you have been here before using a different name, trying to scam people.

If you had kept your sales in the right area, it wouldn't have been a problem. After all people arent as dumb as you hoped. But your PM sales is breaking the rules. It's what scammers do. They have to lure people in private, where more experienced people cant call out bullshit.

[Steve]

Passion has broken this rule:

3. Spamming and/or promotion of products and services may only take place in the "for sale" section. This includes services like moneybookers, systems or whatever. If you post promotions or you are found to have been promoting against the rules, you will be banned. No-one wants spam.

To Sellers: if you post an email address or ask people to contact you privately, perhaps to tell them about your great system, you and your posts will be removed. If you promote here, you must do it openly where you naturally will be questioned by more experienced members. This is because scammers lure victims to private discussions.

But rather than ban him, his posts are now being moderated, and he is unable to send or read PMs. Some of his posts have been edited too.

Chances are he'll continue on other forums, or will be back here using a different name. I hope especially new members have learned something.

[RouletteGhost]

It’s sad that forums are dying. They used to be cool.....and fun

Passion has always been a system selling scammer.

People are way to fu cking gullible.

[Bigbroben]

It’s sad that forums are dying. They used to be cool.....and fun

I must say this thread is rather entertaining though.

[Steve]

They arent dying. They are just plagued by scammers and trolls. They are still productive and fun if proper rules are enforced.

From my perspective as admin, I would like to immediately ban the people who are clearly full of shit. That's the best way to deal with someone who could easily come back under a different name, to repeat the same shit.

But the problem is the dickhead is often the guru to some members. And if I ban the guru, people (followers) get upset. And I have to balance "what members want" with "what's good for members". So in this case, I've waited until it has become abundantly clear what Passion is.

But still, some people can still believe his crap. It happened with previous scammers like Alabalah, CEH, John Legend etc. And after I ban them, I get attacked by clueless followers.

Unfortunately even long-term members can be the trolls, attention-seekers or scammers. Like Turbo for example, who since RS was fixed, hasnt been able to rank there and had to start his own forum to escape criticism. Rather than just banning someone like that, you'd hope people would be smart enough to put it all together. But many arent, so it goes around in circles.

So members come and go. The core members that are the backbone of the forum remain. Even when they disagree with others (inevitable), they can at least behave themselves and not disrupt the forum (usually).

[Bigbroben]

Steve,
lemme ask you a question.

System threads are all over the place.  Advantage play has its place in this forum, threads about it exist.

What's missing?  What topic or aspect of the game could be analysed in a deeper way?  ( Please don't answer '' Odds and Payout'' cuz there is no depth to it: it's quite straight-fwd and easily understandable).