True/Fair Randomness

[andreib1986]

I've been messing around with different strategies, methods...I also used 2 sets of spins like another roulette and trying to match the results to create randomness, or use dice..no result. Even if a good progression might survive 100 000 (from time to time, 90% of the time it doesn't), no where near to reach 1M spins. Sadly there are people who present martingale like the holy grail, or many other systems that have no chance on the long run. And some fall into this trap (including me) and they waste energy and money for nothing. And the deception is that on the short term u usualy win, and you get hooked...but its just an illusion. Unless you use Steve's 'methods', you have no chance... People should know this from the start that gambling is not for winning money...The problem is that, even if is obvious, if you think better, with some 'help' you can start to think that you can beat it...and with that i mean systems...and there you go...you could play for years and not understand that in fact you are loosing. For me i'm done... i'd better play poker even if i will not make money either, but at least could be fun sometimes and if you play against donkeys you might win a little. I can't afford to buy a roullete computer and even if i would, i dont like the risk in trying to win like this in a  casino, even if the risk might be small. I dont want to imagine what is like to be caught...Casinos want all money for them and they would get suspicious only by seeing you winning smaller amounts...I can't even imagine about that millions you are talking Steve...

[Steve]

My specific approaches are not the only that work. But as far as i know, only physics-based methods work because only they consider cause and effect.

[Still]

My specific approaches are not the only that work. But as far as i know, only physics-based methods work because only they consider cause and effect.

The B&Ms i visit, no one stands over the wheel watching it.   So it seems anyone watching a wheel would stand out, especially if watching it carefully.  I mean, isn't that a giveaway? Plus late bets?  I mean, it's about as obvious as someone who sets dice and throws them the same way each time.  They ignore it because the B&M doesn't believe it is possible, or they know there is a small subset of people who can influence dice, among a large subset of those who think they can.  So, if you set dice and start taking too much money out, they can just say no thanks, no more play.  Probably same with VB players who are actually using eye-balls to estimate the fall zones.   So a computer user can mask behind the persona of a straight VB player, i guess, till one starts to take out too much money.  Then they might assume there is a computer involved.  But for sure, the first thing they think is probably, does this VB player use his eyes, or a computer?

[Steve]

Its really not that hard to avoid detection, unless youre winning millions. Everyone looks at the wheel. Many players bet late. Thats why casinos allow it. A magician does things in plain sight and nobody notices. Do you think its so hard to be careful about your behavior at a table?

[Robbert]

I am a magician, Its alll about misdirection folks

[Still]

Its really not that hard to avoid detection, unless youre winning millions. Everyone looks at the wheel. Many players bet late. Thats why casinos allow it. A magician does things in plain sight and nobody notices. Do you think its so hard to be careful about your behavior at a table?

Well seems to me the only misdirection possible is to impersonate someone who thinks he can do visual ballistics by eye. 

[Steve]

Still, do you have any experience with VB?

Basic techniques that beat a basic wheel are "piss easy" (is that international slang, Im not sure). Techniques that take into account rotor speed changes etc and a different matter.

Anyone wanting to learn VB should start with the simplest methods like in my videos. It takes minutes to be competent enough with it. Then gradually add the harder parts.

[Still]

Still, do you have any experience with VB?

Basic techniques that beat a basic wheel are "piss easy" (is that international slang, Im not sure). Techniques that take into account rotor speed changes etc and a different matter.

Anyone wanting to learn VB should start with the simplest methods like in my videos. It takes minutes to be competent enough with it. Then gradually add the harder parts.

No experience there.  I've always assumed it is an impossibility for me, like playing piano and reading music at the same time.  I did start watching one of your videos.  I should finish and check it out.  But then, where to go to practice and discover what edge is to be had...or not.