Done with systems.

Proofreaders2000 · May 30, 03:17 AM 2019

Alright. What about clockwise vs counterclockwise
spins. Should they be separate in tracking?

snafu3six · May 30, 04:18 AM 2019

Hi -
Sorry for the stupid question, where can I get some more info on the VB? Like a course?
I know lots, but cannot seem to win constantly, so want to learn more.

Robbert · May 30, 04:27 AM 2019

Well im playing dealer signature as for now.
Works like a charm.

snafu3six · May 30, 05:05 AM 2019

Thanks Robert. Are you able to explain more? do you play CW and CCW, or every spin?

Firefox · May 30, 12:22 PM 2019

Quote from: snafu3six on May 30, 04:18 AM 2019
Hi -
Sorry for the stupid question, where can I get some more info on the VB? Like a course?
I know lots, but cannot seem to win constantly, so want to learn more.

Do you know the wheel backwards and sideways in your head?

For example, if I said what number is opposite 4 (18 pockets) or going round the wheel in groups of 12 pockets what are the 2 numbers at 1/3 points from 4, or what are the neighbours of 4. Could you give the answers instantly. And be able to do that and more for every number on the wheel.

Then make sure you can count up to 6 seconds to within an accuracy of about 0.1/.2/0.25 seconds. Metronome and stopwatch.

Even if you can do all that, you wont be able to win all the time depending on method. You need the right wheel and the right conditions.

snafu · May 30, 12:27 PM 2019

Quote from: Firefox on May 30, 12:22 PM 2019
Do you know the wheel backwards and sideways in your head?

For example, if I said what number is opposite 4 (18 pockets) or going round the wheel in groups of 12 pockets what are the 2 numbers at 1/3 points from 4, or what are the neighbours of 4. Could you give the answers instantly. And be able to do that and more for every number on the wheel.

Then make sure you can count up to 6 seconds to within an accuracy of about 0.1/.2/0.25 seconds. Metronome and stopwatch.

Even if you can do all that, you wont be able to win all the time depending on method. You need the right wheel and the right conditions.

Hi Firefox, that is what I read... a lot - "right wheel and conditions" but what does it means. Yes, I know the wheel, i have been playing roulette for multiple years.

Firefox · May 30, 01:25 PM 2019

It depends what method you are using to predict, but take Steve's example, traditional VB, you need a wheel with a knee point in the deceleration curve. Not all wheels have that. Also a pronounced drop zone (tilted wheel or track), where one diamond is hit a lot more than others. Also the right wheel speeds. Around 3 to 5 is OK usually. And a dealer who does nice long steady spins (no back spin or side spin to mess up the deceleration norms. And calling nmb late enough and a good view of the wheel. Table not to busy or too quiet when they do short spins and more attention on you. You need a couple of Chinese gents plastering the layout with bets throughout the spin ideally. Pit boss and dealer who are not too interested in you helps... so lots of things really!

snafu · May 30, 04:56 PM 2019

Thanks Firefox for the explanation, yes, i have been reading re the 3-4 speed, heard it is the best.
Now, could you please be so kind and let me know if it is possible to play VB online? And i am only talking online land wheels? Such as Dragonara, Hipodrome, Aviator, etc.

Firefox · May 30, 06:51 PM 2019

It should be noted that Laurance Scott played VB using cross over patterns which develop easier with 2-3 second rotor so it shows there are really very many different approaches. He also had a sound method of playing traditional knee point VB. But hr was playing on higher profile frets and 2-3 second rotor with low profile frets lead to big scatters which can be difficult to predict. Also the faster the rotor, the better you have to be due to reading and parallax error at speed.

Playing VB online is very limited because casinos are aware of computer users which is a more accurate form of VB. They therefore call no more bets very early or even before the spin. They also disrupt your view of the wheel during the betting period.

Steve · May 30, 07:02 PM 2019

There isnt a method or approach that works for ALL wheels and conditions. You need to apply the correct approach for the specific wheel and conditions.

It isnt ideal, but not much in life is. Going to work every day is not ideal either.

Proofreaders2000 · May 31, 12:01 AM 2019

There isnt a method or approach that works for ALL wheels and conditions.-Steve H.

The method exists. It's just a matter of finding it.

Steve · May 31, 12:09 AM 2019

Yes it probably does exist. It is just quite unlikely to be nonsense thats already throughly shown to fail, such as repeaters, law of a third, hot numbers etc.

Roulettebeater · May 31, 03:40 AM 2019

I am doing similar things with my cross reference system.

I can share the concept with you, but you need to code it ... trying to perform the simulations in head is too difficult

Roulettebeater · May 31, 03:43 AM 2019

Also, according to me, the wheel is not always beatable ... even the most advanced devices such computers or else canâ€™t beat the game when the wheel is chaotic...

snafu · May 31, 08:53 AM 2019

thanks guys. i will try to learn more on VB. if you have some more training, explanations, anything useful, please share.
One question, why would VB not work on auto roulette? What i have been reading, it fits all the factors.... or speed roulette (auto), i have checked today, and we have 5-7 seconds after the ball has spun. Thanks again

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