HOLY GRAIL 90-100% winrate

[ati]

Why then simply not to go to the casino and not to win 39*500-1*1250=18250 why here to ask 100 if you can win thousands?

You know why, it's a progression system, and those can work nicely in simulations when you don't have to put real money on the table. Attached is chart of a simple follow the last EC bet with martingale progression. It works with 1000 units stop loss, until it doesn't...

I'm sure ignatus's system is a lot more sophisticated and I mean no disrespect, but a winning system does not have win goals or stop losses. Betting with a progression, a player is likely to be in constant fear that the inevitable bad beat might happen in the next 5 or 10 spins.
Let's say you are only 20 units away from your win goal of 500, and you lose the next 5 spins, bringing you down to 400. Would you quit and take the 400 profit or would you continue with the progression and risk of losing a thousand? This is where humans and simulators work differently, a simulator always sticks to the rules and doesn't get emotional.
It is very likely that say 2 people will win $20,000 with this system, but at the same time 6 other players will reach the $1,250 stop loss a couple times and give up.
Anyway, I wish good luck and big winnings to everyone who plays it 

[ignatus]

it's a progression system, and those can work nicely in simulations

Well? it´s simple as that, (IF/When played for real) you have the BR, then, that you are *prepared* to reach the wingoal 90% of the time? 10% of the games will be lost...ofc....we will se if this is true then?, from all that already got the system can test that, and see that it´s correct, also we will now do more testings,.....and see if this is true or not....yes
i do not want to "scam" anyone, and it was not an illusion that i won 39 out of 40 live-sessions then? could it be "extreme luck" we will see...yes

[RFMAXX]

Iggy, congrats first. Nice graph.
I would pay for it in advance - no Problem. But let me ask a question : you said you tested 40 sessions on live spins.

That means b&m casino?
Your graphs are over 1000 spins. Not possible in b&m. How many spins were needed to reach your target on the live spins?

Thx
Max

[ignatus]

Iggy, congrats first. Nice graph.
I would pay for it in advance - no Problem. But let me ask a question : you said you tested 40 sessions on live spins.

That means b&m casino?
Your graphs are over 1000 spins. Not possible in b&m. How many spins were needed to reach your target on the live spins?

Thx
Max

hi, yes it was Live-spins downloaded from casinos with RX... As with the MM i´ve already mentioned BR/Stoploss 1250u, wingoal +500u, (and wingoal is typically reach within 800 livespins or so) ofc, a lower wingoal could be used, then when played for real..iknow, a typical "live session" would be like 300 spins or so?...anyway, send me a mail; ignatus@hotmail.se... cheers 

[Joe]

I don't see why you need testers when you have already written RX code for the system? Just run it over a few million spins then you will know whether you really do have a HG.

[ignatus]

I don't see why you need testers when you have already written RX code for the system? Just run it over a few million spins then you will know whether you really do have a HG.

Yes, that´s right. now tested 50 000 spins, nonstop,... and? Good news is it´s a 87% winrate, the Bad new IS that i´ve mis-calculated(?) obviously the BET/Risk as you can see below. so i cannot longer promise the same profit (but the winrate should be close to what i said?) with this new moneymanagement then, a minimum of 2500u is Required (to go through all 9 steps in the progressline).. now tested with a +500u wingoal... Problem now, is, first to find a casino that accept Highest bet 405u, also, this large BR, required.... i am sorry, that now, i realize the mistake? and my miscalculations?. so that´s what i figure now?,....Anyway, IF someone who bought the system want their money back now, (with this new information) pls contact me, thank you.

Progression; 1,1,1,2,5,15,45,135,405

Risk/BET calculation
Bet 1; 1u
Bet 2; 2u
Bet 3; 3u
Bet 4; 8u
Bet 5; 25u
Bet 6; 90u
Bet 7; 270u
Bet 8; 810u
Bet 9; 1215u
============
Total Risk/BET= 2424u

TEST1; Total spins 51 806
(WG +500/SL-2500)

54/62 Games won=87% winrate
Lost; 8*2500=20000
won; 54*500=27000

Total=+7000u

[Pave]

Just look bet progression its quite risky quite quick it rise high bets, and if need play 300-800spins win 500 its too much spins who have time play 300-800 spins daily same table and what happend is table go offline internet connection failure .etc
Also need start play min 2500 too much and not good if your first session is loss session 2500 so after that you need another 2500 and win 5 session straight win back first 2500 which loss but problem is what if you dont win 5 sessions straight get some loss session then its quite much based luck win session without loss session.
When win rate is not 99-100% loss can come any time, even first tryout and then you need hunt loss cash back and bad shit you just might loss more when hunt losses back.

[ignatus]

Well now, All hope is not lost. i have now tested the original MM (WG +500/ SL -1250) only Not played with the last step in the progressionline,(Highest bet 135u) 50 000 spins nonstop and that ended up with a 74% winrate and +10 000u profit..

Progression; 1,1,1,2,5,15,45,135.

Risk/BET calculation
Bet 1; 1u
Bet 2; 2u
Bet 3; 3u
Bet 4; 8u
Bet 5; 25u
Bet 6; 90u
Bet 7; 270u
Bet 8; 810u
============
Total Risk/BET= 1209u


TEST2; Total spins 51407
(WG +500/SL-1250)
146/196 Games won=74% winrate
Lost; 50*1250=62500
Won; 146*500=73000

Total= +10500u

[bigmoney]

Its not a holy grail ....we have bets above our house  limits

[ignatus]

Well now, i have been struggling to get this to work, (longer term play) ....but really it´s meant for short sessions, anyway, (now the code is without SL and WG, use your own MM) ...you don´t know how much i´ve been struggling with this now, but i guess, this is the best i can do for now. So. i decided to publish this bet..

Gameplay/Procedure;

OK. TRIGGER (2 hits within column A or C) IF column 1-34 Hit 2 times, you begin BET with corner (2/6), next (8/12)...and so on.

Once you got the trigger Start Bet. --> When for an example you get a trigger (2 hits within column 3-36) you start BET. You begin place 1 corner(1/5) next you place a second corner(7/11), next you place a third corner(13/17), next corner(19/23), next corner(25/29), and Finally corner (31/35),....A 6 corner bet,KEEP the same bet, but continue progressionline, for each spin,+1 step.

Progressionline (11 steps); 1,1,2,4,12,30,75,150,325,750,1000

In the code it´s played with a "positive negative progressionline", that is, it reset only when reached a new high. (this RX-code "don´t reset until reached a new high" is not perfect..anyway).

TEST1 LIVE-spins

RX-code

Code Select Expand

system "Progressive corner BET v8"
// © ignatus 2019 ©

method "main"
begin
  while starting a new session
  begin
       Set List [1,1,2,4,12,30,75,150,325,750,1000]
         to Record "progression" Data
       

  end
   put 0 to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data

       Copy List [corner(1:5)] to Record "L1" Layout
       Copy List [corner(7:11)] to Record "L2" Layout
       Copy List [corner(13:17)] to Record "L3" Layout
       Copy List [corner(19:23)] to Record "L4" Layout
       Copy List [corner(25:29)] to Record "L5" Layout
       Copy List [corner(31:35)] to Record "L6" Layout

       Copy List [corner(2:6)] to Record "c1" Layout
       Copy List [corner(8:12)] to Record "c2" Layout
       Copy List [corner(14:18)] to Record "c3" Layout
       Copy List [corner(20:24)] to Record "c4" Layout
       Copy List [corner(26:30)] to Record "c5" Layout
       Copy List [corner(32:36)] to Record "c6" Layout


  while on each spin
  begin
 
if total inside bets count = 0 each
begin
  if column c has hit more 1 times each
  begin
  set flag "bet" true
  end
 
  if column a has hit more 1 times each
  begin
  set flag "bet2" true
  end
end

IF flag "bet" true each
begin
 
  if flag "L5" true each
  begin
  set flag "L6" true
  end

  if flag "L4" true each
  begin
  set flag "L5" true
  end

  if flag "L3" true each
  begin
  set flag "L4" true
  end

   if flag "L2" true each
  begin
  set flag "L3" true
  end

  if flag "L1" true each
  begin
  set flag "L2" true
  end

  if flag "L1" false each
  begin
  set flag "L1" true
  end

end

IF flag "bet2" true each
begin

  if flag "c5" true each
  begin
  set flag "c6" true
  end

  if flag "c4" true each
  begin
  set flag "c5" true
  end

  if flag "c3" true each
  begin
  set flag "c4" true
  end

   if flag "c2" true each
  begin
  set flag "c3" true
  end

  if flag "c1" true each
  begin
  set flag "c2" true
  end

  if flag "c1" false each
  begin
  set flag "c1" true
  end

end
 
   
    IF any inside bet lost each
  begin
    add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
  end

   If any inside bet won each
  begin
      set flag "bet" false
      set flag "bet2" false
      set flag "L1" false
      set flag "L2" false
      set flag "L3" false
      set flag "L4" false
      set flag "L5" false
      set flag "L6" false
     
      set flag "c1" false
      set flag "c2" false
      set flag "c3" false
      set flag "c4" false
      set flag "c5" false
      set flag "c6" false

     // Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
     // add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index

      if Bankroll >= Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
     begin
        clear Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
        put 100% Bankroll to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
        put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
     end

  end
 

{ if total spin count >= 300 each
  begin
  stop session
  end
  }
 
  if total bankroll <= -2000 each
  begin
   { add 1 to record "lost sessions" data index
    put 0 on total bankroll
    put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
    }
// stop session
  end

{ if total bankroll >= 350 each
  begin
    add 1 to record "won sessions" data index
    put 0 on total bankroll
    put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index

  //stop session
  end
  }



IF flag "L1" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "L1" Layout List
  end
 
  IF flag "L2" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "L2" Layout List
  end
 
  IF flag "L3" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "L3" Layout List
  end
 
  IF flag "L4" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "L4" Layout List
  end

  IF flag "L5" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "L5" Layout List
  end
 
  IF flag "L6" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "L6" Layout List
   {   set flag "bet" false
      set flag "bet2" false
      set flag "L1" false
      set flag "L2" false
      set flag "L3" false
      set flag "L4" false
      set flag "L5" false
      set flag "L6" false

      set flag "c1" false
      set flag "c2" false
      set flag "c3" false
      set flag "c4" false
      set flag "c5" false
      set flag "c6" false
      }
  end
 
 
  IF flag "c1" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "c1" Layout List
  end

  IF flag "c2" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "c2" Layout List
  end

  IF flag "c3" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "c3" Layout List
  end

  IF flag "c4" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "c4" Layout List
  end

  IF flag "c5" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "c5" Layout List
  end

  IF flag "c6" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "c6" Layout List
    {  set flag "bet" false
      set flag "bet2" false
      set flag "L1" false
      set flag "L2" false
      set flag "L3" false
      set flag "L4" false
      set flag "L5" false
      set flag "L6" false

      set flag "c1" false
      set flag "c2" false
      set flag "c3" false
      set flag "c4" false
      set flag "c5" false
      set flag "c6" false
     }
  end



 

If Record "progression" Data Index >
  Record "progression" Data Count
    Begin
      set flag "bet" false
      set flag "bet2" false
      set flag "L1" false
      set flag "L2" false
      set flag "L3" false
      set flag "L4" false
      set flag "L5" false
      set flag "L6" false
     
      set flag "c1" false
      set flag "c2" false
      set flag "c3" false
      set flag "c4" false
      set flag "c5" false
      set flag "c6" false

      Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index

      clear Record "L1" Layout
      clear Record "L2" Layout
      clear Record "B3" Layout
      clear Record "B4" Layout
    End
   

  end
END 

[ignatus]

OK, just now, tested another progressionline, (that seemd to work better) try that one...(To find the best progressionline, is a work in progress)...

Progressionline; 1,1,1,2,4,12,35,105,300,750,1000

RX-code

Code Select Expand

system "Progressive corner BET v8"
// © ignatus 2019 ©

method "main"
begin
  while starting a new session
  begin
       Set List [1,1,1,2,4,12,35,105,300,750,1000]
         to Record "progression" Data
       

  end
   put 0 to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data

       Copy List [corner(1:5)] to Record "L1" Layout
       Copy List [corner(7:11)] to Record "L2" Layout
       Copy List [corner(13:17)] to Record "L3" Layout
       Copy List [corner(19:23)] to Record "L4" Layout
       Copy List [corner(25:29)] to Record "L5" Layout
       Copy List [corner(31:35)] to Record "L6" Layout

       Copy List [corner(2:6)] to Record "c1" Layout
       Copy List [corner(8:12)] to Record "c2" Layout
       Copy List [corner(14:18)] to Record "c3" Layout
       Copy List [corner(20:24)] to Record "c4" Layout
       Copy List [corner(26:30)] to Record "c5" Layout
       Copy List [corner(32:36)] to Record "c6" Layout


  while on each spin
  begin
 
if total inside bets count = 0 each
begin
  if column c has hit more 1 times each
  begin
  set flag "bet" true
  end
 
  if column a has hit more 1 times each
  begin
  set flag "bet2" true
  end
end

IF flag "bet" true each
begin
 
  if flag "L5" true each
  begin
  set flag "L6" true
  end

  if flag "L4" true each
  begin
  set flag "L5" true
  end

  if flag "L3" true each
  begin
  set flag "L4" true
  end

   if flag "L2" true each
  begin
  set flag "L3" true
  end

  if flag "L1" true each
  begin
  set flag "L2" true
  end

  if flag "L1" false each
  begin
  set flag "L1" true
  end

end

IF flag "bet2" true each
begin

  if flag "c5" true each
  begin
  set flag "c6" true
  end

  if flag "c4" true each
  begin
  set flag "c5" true
  end

  if flag "c3" true each
  begin
  set flag "c4" true
  end

   if flag "c2" true each
  begin
  set flag "c3" true
  end

  if flag "c1" true each
  begin
  set flag "c2" true
  end

  if flag "c1" false each
  begin
  set flag "c1" true
  end

end
 
   
    IF any inside bet lost each
  begin
    add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
  end

   If any inside bet won each
  begin
      set flag "bet" false
      set flag "bet2" false
      set flag "L1" false
      set flag "L2" false
      set flag "L3" false
      set flag "L4" false
      set flag "L5" false
      set flag "L6" false
     
      set flag "c1" false
      set flag "c2" false
      set flag "c3" false
      set flag "c4" false
      set flag "c5" false
      set flag "c6" false

     // Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
     // add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index

      if Bankroll >= Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
     begin
        clear Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
        put 100% Bankroll to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
        put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
     end

  end
 

{ if total spin count >= 300 each
  begin
  stop session
  end
  }
 
  if total bankroll <= -2000 each
  begin
   { add 1 to record "lost sessions" data index
    put 0 on total bankroll
    put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
    }
// stop session
  end

{ if total bankroll >= 350 each
  begin
    add 1 to record "won sessions" data index
    put 0 on total bankroll
    put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index

  //stop session
  end
  }



IF flag "L1" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "L1" Layout List
  end
 
  IF flag "L2" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "L2" Layout List
  end
 
  IF flag "L3" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "L3" Layout List
  end
 
  IF flag "L4" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "L4" Layout List
  end

  IF flag "L5" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "L5" Layout List
  end
 
  IF flag "L6" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "L6" Layout List
   {   set flag "bet" false
      set flag "bet2" false
      set flag "L1" false
      set flag "L2" false
      set flag "L3" false
      set flag "L4" false
      set flag "L5" false
      set flag "L6" false

      set flag "c1" false
      set flag "c2" false
      set flag "c3" false
      set flag "c4" false
      set flag "c5" false
      set flag "c6" false
      }
  end
 
 
  IF flag "c1" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "c1" Layout List
  end

  IF flag "c2" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "c2" Layout List
  end

  IF flag "c3" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "c3" Layout List
  end

  IF flag "c4" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "c4" Layout List
  end

  IF flag "c5" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "c5" Layout List
  end

  IF flag "c6" true each
  begin
  Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "c6" Layout List
    {  set flag "bet" false
      set flag "bet2" false
      set flag "L1" false
      set flag "L2" false
      set flag "L3" false
      set flag "L4" false
      set flag "L5" false
      set flag "L6" false

      set flag "c1" false
      set flag "c2" false
      set flag "c3" false
      set flag "c4" false
      set flag "c5" false
      set flag "c6" false
     }
  end



 

If Record "progression" Data Index >
  Record "progression" Data Count
    Begin
      set flag "bet" false
      set flag "bet2" false
      set flag "L1" false
      set flag "L2" false
      set flag "L3" false
      set flag "L4" false
      set flag "L5" false
      set flag "L6" false
     
      set flag "c1" false
      set flag "c2" false
      set flag "c3" false
      set flag "c4" false
      set flag "c5" false
      set flag "c6" false

      Put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index

      clear Record "L1" Layout
      clear Record "L2" Layout
      clear Record "B3" Layout
      clear Record "B4" Layout
    End
   

  end
END

[ignatus]

Tested now 80 000spins (nonstop) with the last progressionline posted, with Wg/Sl +250/-500 and that ended up with a 76% winrate...

(Wg+250/Sl-500)
Total spins:81713

132/173 won=76% winrate

lost:41*500=20500
won:132*250=33000

Total=+12500

[Alan B]

There isn't any need for such drawdown, which is why people aren't paying you $100.

[ignatus]

There isn't any need for such drawdown, which is why people aren't paying you $100.

do not cry, this was based on my original HG "Progressive Line Bet" ..i will tell you more about that (see other thread)

This Thread is officially now closed......(i have the HG already posted as you will see) 

[Mister Eko]

do not cry, this was based on my original HG "Progressive Line Bet" ..i will tell you more about that (see other thread)

This Thread is officially now closed......(i have the HG already posted as you will see) 

Yes your all new system is HG. You have 2000 HG