DS/LINE IDEA

[Mister Eko]

Hi.

I have an idea to the line bets. Feel free to test it.

Methodus: The last 2 doublestreet which hit at least 2 times. Bet them for 6 spins, if no hit, retrack, if hit once, drop the hit one, and continue betting other one for 6 spins. If not hit, retrack. I not thought about progression, nothing I did with this, I just wrote next to numebrs ds numebrs, and W/L things. Quet good hitrate!

167 trigger -> 137 W/29L -> 83%

Maybe a little progression can help us.  I think that for too long times we should not take one line more than 2-3 times, because it will go to sleep. I think after 2 -3 time wins wait new "trigger".

TEST:

1 1
4 1
26 5
30 5
10 2
33 6 5+1
7 2
15 3
18 3
15 3
1 1 W 5
26 5 W 3+2
4 1
33 3 W 2
20 4
23 4
23 4
2 1
6 1
35 6 L 1+4
16 3
8 2
9 2
3 1 W 4
22 4 W 1+2
7 2 W 1
34 4
15 3
5 1 W 4+1
31 6
21 4 W 1
9 2
12 2
29 5
22 4
3 1 W 2+4
26 5
18 3
2 1
35 6
1 1
35 6 L 1+6
8 2
31 6 W 1
25 5
18 3
9 2
4 1 W 2+6
28 5
4 1
12 2 W 6
27 5
6 1
8 2
17 3
25 5
35 6 W 6+1
35 6 W 1
2 1 W 6+1
2 1 W 6
8 2
29 5
8 2
29 5
35 6 W 5+2
28 5 W 2
4 1
36 6
25 5
15 3
6 1
34 5 L 1+5
2 1 W 5
10 2
31 6
25 5 W 1+5
30 5 W 1
24 4
13 3
1 1 W 1+5
12 2
16 3
9 2
12 2
26 5 W 1
20 4
14 3
36 6
30 5
30 5
23 4 L 5+4
26 5 W 4
14 3
1 1
14 3
1 1
5 1
4 1 L 1+3
25 5
3 1 W 3
1 1
9 2
31 6
33 6
6 1
7 2 L 1+6
4 1 W 6
34 6 W 6
0
1 1
20 4
35 6 W 6+1
27 5
21 4
33 6 W 1
6 1 W 6+4
7 2
20 4 W 6
9 2
15 3
29 5
7 2
25 5
29 5 L 5+2
7 2 W 5
27 5 W 5+2
19 4
1 1
36 6
35 6
18 3
0 L 6+5
3 1
21 4
9 2
23 4
35 6 W 5
29 5 W 4+6
11 2
35 6 W 4
26 5
25 5
30 5
23 4 W 5+4
23 4 W 5
31 6
5 1
23 4
0
12 2
36 6 L 6+4
10 2
24 4 W 6
1 1
26 5
26 5
13 3
3 1
34 6 W 1+5
8 2
36 6
20 4
0
17 3
30 5 W 1
9 2
5 1 W 2+6
30 5
31 6 W 2
5 1
29 5
33 6
35 6
5 1
21 4 L 6+1
12 2
3 1 W 6
2 1
19 4
26 5
28 5
29 5
27 5 L 1+5
4 1 W 5
2 1
28 5 W 1+5
29 5 W
2 1 W 1+5
12 2
18 3
25 5 W 1
10 2
3 1 W 1+2
28 5
29 5
34 6
14 3
22 4
5 1 W 2
36 6
7 2 W

[Let Me Win]

It's amazing to "feel and touch" the human stupidity post after post!

Even if since 1860 scientists, mathematicians and players have tried to find a solution without result, someone keep on looking for solutions, that don't exist!

A lot of people have tried with very powerful computers too and still no solution.
In spite of that many people keep on proposing systems, tests, progressions, bet selections, new ideas.

The only topics to develop are in my opinion:

- Bankroll
- Money management
- stop-win and stop-loss
- max number of spins per sessions-
- number of days per year, spent in a casino
- only hit and run strategies

Discussing about these items, we can find something new, help each other and decide a simple way of playing different for all players, according to the list above.

Roulette is a simple game.

Studying bet selection and progressions is like an alcohol addiction.  .  .  .  .

[RouletteGhost]

No reason to be so harsh

Some bet selections perform better than others

I do agree that money management and stoploss are important

I create and play silly systems to. But I use virtual losses and I play limited spins

Limiting exposure to the house edge is our strongest weapon. Play your system but don’t sit there for an hour. Limit exposure.

[Joe]

The only topics to develop are in my opinion:

- Bankroll
- Money management
- stop-win and stop-loss
- max number of spins per sessions-
- number of days per year, spent in a casino
- only hit and run strategies

There's no point in having stop losses or wins, or hit and run, if you don't have a bet selection which is linked to them. When do you trigger the SL/SW?; when do you hit and when do you run? It doesn't make sense to use them at arbitrary or random times. I agree with RG that some bet selections are better than others. Also you have admitted yourself in the other thread about betting on singles and series on the even chances that :

That's why I will look into bet selections even if there is no reason for them to work.

And what about your Quantum Roulette Predictor? That has quite a complex bet selection at its heart. 

[Let Me Win]

To play only a few spins per session is the first important step for improving our approach.

The second one is to try to reach our goal (that you have to decide before entering a Casino!) with the lowest number of spins. This is the difficult part!!!

All the rest,waiting for 6 or 7 dozens in a row, for 10 Reds in a row, for 20 not hitting dozens are only gambler's fallacy methods.

Also ALL other bet selections or methods are useless, but if we win playing like that, we'll consider that our bet selection is the good method
No, it's pure luck and it won't last.

But it doesn't matter: we can use any bet selection (it's amazing and it satisfies our ego), if we use the rules I have illustrated in the first two phrases.

[RouletteGhost]

No one can post the method they play because letmewin thinks it’s all stupid.

I didn’t see the OP claim any holy grail. Forum will just be even more of a ghost town

[Let Me Win]

The theory of 10 spins at the most (but the average is 2 -5 spins) is not exactly the classical hit-and run method, even if it's quite similar.

It's the method that allows to your bankroll to last the longest possible time!

I used to invent new methods, new strategies too, but I gave up!

I can admit that to try to find out a solution that doesn't exist can give to the brain a kind of self-pleasure.
But pay attention that this self-pleasure doesn't become a pathology.

[Joe]

The theory of 10 spins at the most (but the average is 2 -5 spins) is not exactly the classical hit-and run method, even if it's quite similar.

It's the method that allows to your bankroll to last the longest possible time!

So what's the difference between making 7 bets, having a break then coming back another 6 times having a break every 7 spins, and making 49 bets without a break? 

Can you prove mathematically that the first strategy is better than the second?

[Let Me Win]

Yes I can.

You have to read this book for the proof.

It's a peer reviewed mathematically correct work.

[Let Me Win]

DON'T Play but if you must (or if you like) follow these simple rules:

European Roulette: if you have access to "one Zero" roulette with "en prison" rule.

Play only ECs,with a "bold strategy".

It means to reach your win goal with the lowest possible number of spins.
If you want to win 10% of your Bankroll, double it or multiply it by ten times follow the rule above and on a yearly basis you have a great chance to earn money (only a few units) but it depends how much is "a unit"

[Mister Eko]

So what's the difference between making 7 bets, having a break then coming back another 6 times having a break every 7 spins, and making 49 bets without a break? 

Can you prove mathematically that the first strategy is better than the second?

This interest me too. i think no difference, who think it has difference, he is full of bullshit.

More hit and run play -> More spins -> More spins -> More time infront of the wheel, the only difference is the session wingoal. If its small, then easier to reach.

[Let Me Win]

Once again, if you want to have fun in playing roulette you (and me too) can continue to invent, to modify, to test.....

But if you and me want to win some units regularly, maybe without much fun and no adrenalin at the roulette table we must follow the rules of the book I mentioned.

It's available on the web for a few $ or â,¬ and what's important and I forgot to say is that it was written by two famous PHD in math and statistics.

Usually these guys laugh about people that try to beat roulette or suggest systems. They consider (and maybe they are right) that no system can beat roulette.

But in this case they don't laugh even if they suggest that people must not gamble!

In "HOW TO Gamble IF YOU MUST" they explain the best way of playing roulette.

Boring ways, ten minutes at the table and other hard rules but high possibilities to be a winner!

If you read it you will be convinced and you'll stop (like I've done) masturbating your brain in complicated and useless solutions or systems.

[nottophammer]

So what's the difference between making 7 bets, having a break then coming back another 6 times having a break every 7 spins, and making 49 bets without a break? 

Can you prove mathematically that the first strategy is better than the second?

Joe have a look at reading randomness by gizmotron over at gambling forums; just 3 wins

[Mister Eko]

First 120 spins I had a mistake to clculate instead of 17 18 . but after that it I did normal, sorry

[Joe]

You have to read this book for the proof.

It's a peer reviewed mathematically correct work.

Have you actually read the book with full understanding? I doubt it. This is specialized graduate-level stuff. I did find an easier paper online though (attached) which covers the same topic and references the book. Your interpretation is surely wrong because obviously merely splitting a long session into several short sessions can't have any affect on your bottom line. You could argue that short sessions reduces your exposure but that's not true because the exposure is just the number of bets you make, and 7 x 7  is exactly the same as 1 x 49.

The strategy advocated is more to do with money management. Bold play is better than timid play in negative expectation games, yes, but keeping your sessions short doesn't help; all that does is put off the inevitable until later.