Is roulette spins truly random ?

[luckyfella]

Is roulette spins truly random ?

I came back to take the trouble to write my findings and thoughts about the roulette game. My purpose is to point you gamblers to the path of facts and reality. Even this is communicated wrongly to the public. My intention is to hopefully correct this common error and for the general public to better understand this game of roulette. And how to deal with the multitude of claims on forum, are they true or are they bullshit.

I am not perfect in my writings nor am I eloquent nor persuasive. I just deliver the facts as best as I can.

Let begin in next series of post. Respond to this thread after I have completed.

[luckyfella]

The game of roulette is a game of spins whose result is generated by the physical wheel and ball for live wheel games and there is the rng game.

The idea of the game is that the spins are random. Betters bet on random results which offer no biased info both to the better as well to the casino.

The key basis of this game is random spins.

[luckyfella]

By the word random, it means that future outcome is not predictable.

However, since the spins are generated by the dealer with the wheel and ball, this means that if one measures the relevant physical attributes, one can use these variables to select bias pockets to hit, this makes the outcome no more random.

AP, roulette computers fall under this category.

Therefore, the industry is vigilant to weed out such players they deem as cheating.

[luckyfella]

So, for the rest of the non-AP or rc players we are left to play random spins.

And by random, it means future outcome is not predictable.

To suggest otherwise is theorectically and logically nonsensical.

Anyone claiming otherwise is bullshit. That's easy to call. Gamblers are blinded by gamblers fallacy, mostly out of ignorance.

By this post, you should be able to assess that ALL systems on this forum and ALL other forums to be losing strategies. They all offer zero predictive value.

Do waste your precious time with exotic looking re-representations of random roulette spins. Representing random roulette spins in whatever exotic fashion will still result with outcomes. Nothing has changed. Random remains random no matter what exotic lens you wear to look at it.

The only change is the distortion in your mind that caused the illusion that it is not random. The truth is such claims is bullshit. Period.

[luckyfella]

Well, this brings us back to reality. Betters of roulette spins cast their bets on random spins which is not predictable.

What is the next step ?

[luckyfella]

If random spins are random, there is no next step. You bet on random spins, that's it. Nothing more to go on.

[luckyfella]

I wrote a few other posts, and they got lost. So I stop today. If I have the time I continue later. Else

Anyway, read the title, you get the idea of this no nonsense, no bullshit thread.
The thread every gambler should read.

[gizmotron2]

And by random, it means future outcome is not predictable.

To suggest otherwise is theorectically and logically nonsensical.

Let's be clear as a bell here, can we? Future outcomes are not predictable. I will say this again so that it gets past the sound of this sounding like it is being in disagreement. Future outcomes are not predictable.

Does that prevent coincidences from taking place? Does this power of unpredictability actually stop coincidences from occurring. Does probability statistics know when a trend will start? How about how long a trend will continue. Does unpredictability cause all visible trends to end exactly at the moment that you recognize them? Does this power know when a trend will end? It appears that predictability or the lack of it has no power over randomness. I'm so glad that we cleared that up.

Is it possible to take advantage of a coincidence if you see a symmetric pattern to it? Does the lack of predictability prevent that? Does statistics prevent anyone from taking advantage of coincidental observation of opportunities? Is there a probability police that does more than just ridicule some people if they utter heresy against their way of thinking? Can the  probability police keep a player from winning? These are less than important questions if you want to keep things secret.

Is it a secret to beat a casino using randomness as an asset and not as an enemy?

[luckyfella]

But there is no such dependence.

This is the crux of the discussion.

By random spins, this must mean that future spins are independent of past spins. To claim anything else is talking stupid. Lets not waste our time.

[luckyfella]

Which brings us to the discussion proper.

Is roulette spins truly random ?

If the spins are random then this must mean that future spins are independent.

[luckyfella]

I am not referring to AP and rc version of random where there's cause and effect on the physical aspect of the dealer, wheel and ball.

I am referring to just plain inadulterated random spins, is roulette spins random ?

[luckyfella]

In this segment focused on whether roulette spins are random we get a host of claims by gurus of a few popular thread.

Vaddi pairs, Dyslexic php, RRBB derived stream and so on......

All of them suggest claims that roulette spins are in some way not fully random. That future spins are in some way connected to past spins in some voodooish fashion.

Imo, for such claims to hold there must be some reason, math rationale why there might be dependency.

Personally I have not wrap my head around what has been posted on forums to justify that such voodooish exotic rerepresentation of random spins can accord this status of dependency.

Conclusion - bullshit, until I get to see the logic why I have to change my mind.

[luckyfella]

People, at the very least for your own sake, don't be bedazzled by persuasive writings and glamorous exotic representations of simple roulette spins that mislead you to believe that random spins are magically connected to each other, they don't. That's stupid thinking and stop spreading stupid thinking on forums, keep such delusionary stupid thoughts to yourself.

[luckyfella]

Is roulette spins truly random ?

Forget about all those systems on forum. They offer nothing about this crucial issue.

Ask the basic question about dependence. Without dependence, future spins is unpredictable, end of the road. Everything else is stupid talk.

If roulette spins are independent, then roulette spins are random.
If roulette spins are dependent, the roulette spins are not random.

Everything is hinged on this point.

[luckyfella]

Another point often referred to on forums is statistics.

There are continuous 10reds so the current statistical count shows that black has a higher probability to hit.

Sorry guys, this type of statistics do not apply to random spins. Key word is random. With random, variance can throw you a lot more reds, it's theoretically unbounded. Your statistics is useless or to put it correctly, your usage of statistics is incorrect or inappropriate for random spins.