Step In To My Game

[6th-sense]

Mel ..you once said to me on my back to basics thread i gave too much information out...i stopped posting on that thread.

i,m going to now say the same to you..

[Herby]

Thanks all and especially MoneyT for the interesting ideas. 

If you once need a simulation, calculation... just say it. (Mathematica, and always better JavaScript)

[Blueprint]

***If you play cycles perfectly with no house edge you will always break even.

Can you prove that?

[MoneyT101]

Can you prove that?

Falkor already posted many sessions and proved it.  But I’ll prove it for you here.  Just in case anyone else needs it

[MoneyT101]

Mel ..you once said to me on my back to basics thread i gave too much information out...i stopped posting on that thread.

i,m going to now say the same to you..

It’s alright I only shared what’s already in the forum.  Maybe I cleared it up for a better understanding without cryptic messages but I shared more revealing info in my other topics 😅

[MoneyT101]

Thanks all and especially MoneyT for the interesting ideas. 

If you once need a simulation, calculation... just say it. (Mathematica, and always better JavaScript)

No problem glad I can help

[Herby]

Just in case anyone else needs it

Always good to test own ideas against others, so please ...

[MoneyT101]

Always good to test own ideas against others, so please ...

Yes very true.  But I already tested it on my own.  Just never posted it.  But I have openly spoke about it.  Cycles break even without zero and I believe Pri even mentioned it also.

Me
Priyanka
Falkor

Have openly stated this fact.

[Herby]

Somewhere on my harddisc I have this calculations as well.
Kind of nice distributions which have to equal to zero in the long run.
It's a good controll that the simulation is without errors.

[MoneyT101]

Somewhere on my harddisc I have this calculations as well.
Kind of nice distributions which have to equal to zero in the long run.
It's a good controll that the simulation is without errors.

You don’t really need simulation to prove, of course the visual is better tho
But I’ll write something up later here about it

[Blueprint]

Falkor already posted many sessions and proved it.  But I’ll prove it for you here.  Just in case anyone else needs it

Sorry, I don't speak Falkor.

[Blueprint]

You don’t really need simulation to prove, of course the visual is better tho
But I’ll write something up later here about it

Cool man. Looking forward.

[Blood Angel]

Money you say “ now if we apply the math”.. can you explain a little more what that means exactly?

BA

[MoneyT101]

Cool man. Looking forward.

I will use just cycle 1 cause it’s easy to work out.  I will use 1474 spins cause I’m doing it on my phone and I don’t feel like fixing the sheet to add more or less spins 😅

Example 1

1474 spins
538 cycles

Cycle 1 - 98
Cycle 2 - 143
Cycle 3 - 160
Cycle 4 - 83
Cycle 5 - 49
Cycle 6 - 5

Let’s say you only focus on playing cycle 1

You will win 490 units and lose 440 units

98x(6-1)= 490

Profit 50 in this case but if you continue to play it will be break even

Example 2

1474 spins
546 cycles

Cycle 1 - 94
Cycle 2 - 169
Cycle 3 - 144
Cycle 4 - 97
Cycle 5 - 35
Cycle 6 - 7

Again let’s say you only focus on cycle 1

You will win 470 units and lose 452 units
94x(6-1)=470

Profit 18 units which with more plays will break even.


If you continue comparing each of the cycles you will always be hovering around the break even zone.

Now if you add the zero(es) then you will always get the loss

[MoneyT101]

Money you say “ now if we apply the math”.. can you explain a little more what that means exactly?

BA

In this case what I mean is to organize your stats. What’s the math behind what you are seeing with the information?

How many spins did you use?
Did you use straights,streets,quads,etc?
How many total cycles?
How many cycles of 1,2,3,etc?

If I use completely new spins will the Information change or be almost the same?

So what math does your gathering of stats tell you now?

What might be important to look at?

Any bias? Anything you notice that happens a lot?

Can you take advantage of anything?