Theories, Myths, Facts And Ideas

[Blood Angel]

Sorry, I understood different.

No worries, I didn’t word it very well. Thanks for all the ideas.

[ati]

🙋‍â™,️ I think I know this one pick me 😂

Where... recent numbers
How... birthday paradox

🤔

But aren't those are the same things? I mean the repeats on recent numbers is the result of the birthday paradox.
So I'm not sure about the answer on "how"

[MoneyT101]

But aren't those are the same things? I mean the repeats on recent numbers is the result of the birthday paradox.
So I'm not sure about the answer on "how"

I don’t know how to explain the difference without contradicting myself and getting attacked for it 😅

Let me try...

Let’s say you have 24 straights that came out.  The repeat will be in the last 18 which are the more recent 19-24 are still part of the birthday paradox but aren’t considered recent anymore.

[Herby]

A graphic of the repeats of the straights:
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=17018.0;attach=23164
Probabilites in %

[falkor2k15]

There's something quite interesting about the number repeat that I have yet to follow up on:

The number repeat always closes by CL25 as per the graph that Herby posted.

However, we can still encounter 36 unique numbers somewhere within 1 million spins - but such events never occur/coincide when tracking all number cycles continuously with the "Principle A" re-tracking mechanism.

[Herby]

Probability of the first repeat of any shown number (in %)

{{1,2.7027},{2,5.25931},{3,7.46254},{4,9.14329},
{5,10.1935},{6,10.5792},{7,10.341},{8,9.58236},
{9,8.44931},{10,7.10453},{11,5.70282},{12,4.3717},

More results in the link above ...

[MoneyT101]

I bring to you more entertainment in the world of ideas 😂

So would the lines be worth playing with a progresión if you always get a win in a short time frame?

Or

would you just play the opposite for guaranteed profit?

Im a do 100 spins with only the bet results.  Let’s get to the bottom of this 🕵️‍â™,️

[MoneyT101]

I bring to you more entertainment in the world of ideas 😂

So would the lines be worth playing with a progresión if you always get a win in a short time frame?

Or

would you just play the opposite for guaranteed profit?

Im a do 100 spins with only the bet results.  Let’s get to the bottom of this 🕵️‍â™,️

I did 94 spins manually to avoid mistakes.  This is real results not created to make a point!

First 3 spins NB(no bet) then waited 3 spins cause no bet was possible. Played double street so each win is 6.  Any negative in first column is how many double streets were covered.

NB   
NB   
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-1   
-1   
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-1   
-1   
-1   
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-1   
-2   6 ..... 7 spin bet short progression  ---- opposite bet ends at +2
NB   
-2   
-2   
-2   6 ..... 3 spin bet short progression ---- opposite bet ends at +0
-1   
-1   
NB   
-1   
NB   
-1   
-1   
-2   
NB   
-3   6 ..... 7 spin bet short progression ---- opposite bet ends at +4
-1   
-2   
NB   
NB   
-1   
-2   
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-2   6 ..... 6 spin bet short progression ---- opposite bet ends at +4
NB   
-1   
-2   
-1   
-1   
NB   
-1   
-1   
-1   
-2   6 ..... 8 spin bet short progression ---- opposite bet ends at +4
NB   
-1   
-2   
-1   
-1   
-1   6 ..... 5 spin bet short progression ---- opposite bet ends at +0
-1   
-1   
-2   
-1   
-1   
-1   6 ..... 6 spin bet short progression ---- opposite bet ends at +1
-2   
-1   
-3   
-1   
-1   
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-1   
-4   6 ..... 8 spin bet short progression ---- opposite bet ends at +9
-2   
NB   
-2   
-2   
NB   
-2   6 ..... 4 spin bet short progression ---- opposite bet ends at +2
-1   
-2   
-1   
-1   
-2   6 ..... 5 spin bet short progression ---- opposite bet ends at +1
-2   6 ..... 1 spin bet no progression   ---- opposite bet ends at -4
NB   
NB   
-2   
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-1   
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-1   
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-1   
NB   
-1   
-1   
-2   6 ..... 7 spin bet short progression ---- opposite bet ends at +3

Opposite bet ends at +26

Progression depends on what ever is used.  But any progression is good well except martingale.  I like ending on +1 so so if all my combined losses will end on a positive with 6, i continue.  if not then i go 2 units(12) on each bet then 3(18), etc.

If you enjoy progressions and like taking risk for better reward its not so bad to come up with 7 step-8 step progression

Back to the original questions...

My opinion: what is better for you might be to safe for someone else.  It all comes down to preference

[falkor2k15]

I can't really comment on MoneyT's latest example because in all my testing "normal" and "opposite" bets always result in break even, so I couldn't possibly fathom his partial test results let alone hypothesis.

Regarding my earlier observation I thought I would give an actual example - nothing hidden here:

There's something quite interesting about the number repeat that I have yet to follow up on:

The number repeat always closes by CL25 as per the graph that Herby posted.

However, we can still encounter 36 unique numbers somewhere within 1 million spins - but such events never occur/coincide when tracking all number cycles continuously with the "Principle A" re-tracking mechanism.

Under standard number repeats I encountered CL10,3,5 and finally 15.
However, under principle C number repeats I countered 2 x CL12s prior to the 15.

Therefore, CL25 is the maximum for normal number repeats - but if we carry over all uniques after every cycle (principle C) then we can encounter cycle lengths higher than CL25!

This could mean something along the lines of: cycle length+position of the current cycle is dependent on the order+position of the previous cycle.

[donik7777]

Falkor i think your Principle C was described by RRBB he also using unique from previous cycle

You created a half (two unique quads) with a really interesting feature: on a repeat of the quads, the repeat will almost always be in the "dynamic half" that you defined in this way.

I was referring to is to determine the SECOND term in a cycle of quads (beginning at a repeat, ending before a repeat), so a the second term you would bet 2 quads

[Tinsoldiers]

Back to the original questions...

One small question, before I respond to the previous posts. Can you pls identify all the zeroes in this spin set if you can pls. Thanks.

[MoneyT101]

I can't really comment on MoneyT's latest example because in all my testing "normal" and "opposite" bets always result in break even, so I couldn't possibly fathom his partial test results let alone hypothesis.

Because looking all the stats, knowing the information and reciting it like a random expert can only get you so far.

Once you understand what the information means and use your brain you can start finding ways to use it.

[donik7777]

quads cycle like that

1242
2...now we can bet for quad 4 from previous cycle and defining 2 so we actually bet for quads falling for LOW EC

[MoneyT101]

One small question, before I respond to the previous posts. Can you pls identify all the zeroes in this spin set if you can pls. Thanks.

I used randbetween(1,36) to get results and then converted to lines.  No zero used.

3-10 zeros in the 94 spins still wouldn’t make much difference on the results.

People always find a way to focus on the wrong things.

I already shared ideas on zero in my old posts and you also can take the loss and continue. Zero isn’t your biggest enemy!

[falkor2k15]

Here's another example after 100K spins - we have 4 x CL23s in the C column - and only max 21 in the A column:



I would need to run it to 1 mil to go beyond CL25.