Theories, Myths, Facts And Ideas

[MoneyT101]

LLN will give some capacity of calculating how lucky or unlucky your ride has been vis a vis the mean, i.e. deviation from mean.  Both opposites are true though:  at every spin, no matter what's behind or what is forecasted to happen, it's 36 You against 37 Them.  That's it.  Soon or later it will cost 37 to win 36.
All other stats are irrelevant for the present spin, in a pure random scenario.  At worse, they represent the hopes a loser clings to when not accepting the mathematical reality of rng roulette.

So why the 50 shades of strategies?!?

Thank you, i enjoyed the way you explained it

[Bigbroben]

Alright, so how do you escape the spin-per-spin disadvantageous odds?  Luck?

[Blood Angel]

In the example i used... Lets say for some reason I want to play double street 2 to happen in the third spin.  We arent talking about why i decided to bet that.  Lets just say thats my decision.

previous cycle was 41533....

so new cycle starts with Double street 3.  I want to play double street 2 in the third spin

so 1st spin is already set in stone and its 3
if i already know im playing 2 3rd spin, second spin can be 1,2,3,4,5,6 but if im playing it means im ruling out early repeat(3). so now i still have 1,2,4,5,6. 

If 2 comes out in the second spin and i play 2 on the 3rd spin we complete the cycle and I im not playing for the cycle to end yet so i have to rule out 2.

so second spin i can only choose 1456.

Gottcha, thank you for the reply MoneyT.

[Still]

. This is the incentive for you to learn math.

Oh! The local community college is teaching math. Might still be time to enroll. What course do you suggest?  Algebra 101?  Statistics 202? Calculus 303?

[luckyfella]

Oh! The local community college is teaching math. Might still be time to enroll. What course do you suggest?  Algebra 101?  Statistics 202? Calculus 303?

At least you don't write stupid math on forum.

[mickavelli]

Look at the way a dependent event is created with this idea, look at how a bet is based on a previous spin that has nothing to do with the moment.  Also pay attention at how i want to cover every permutation possible.

What are everyones thoughts on this?
Let's come back to this part for a moment  before it gets away
Care to elaborate money?
To me you are hinting at constructing a kind of non random betting plan over the course of a finite amount of spins?? This would explain the "Either we have a bet or we don't" using spins in time throughout a kind of matrix

[Tinsoldiers]

Yes your right should bet all combined spins to make more sense

Thanks Money. This is where I question the dependency factor.  If you are betting all combined spins it automatically becomes, let’s say if you are combining two spins and both of them are ECs, a 1:4 bet. What’s then the difference between this and a 9 number bet. All are the same right, with LLN eventually working it’s way out. No?

[Tinsoldiers]

Care to elaborate money?

As I always say the devil is In the details. While Money is attempting to elaborate, constructing a non random betting plan over a finite spins are useless if there is no change in the end to the expectation of outcome or a plan that yields positive results at a point when the plan ends without even changing expectation.   That’s the part people have struggled to disclose and others have struggled to understand. 

Examples have to be to the point to for anyone to understand.  While theoretically, as a going in assumption that is what is needed as a premise to win this game, I struggle to see a practical applicability as everyone else. 

[luckyfella]

As I always say the devil is In the details. While Money is attempting to elaborate, constructing a non random betting plan over a finite spins are useless if there is no change in the end to the expectation of outcome or a plan that yields positive results at a point when the plan ends without even changing expectation.   That’s the part people have struggled to disclose and others have struggled to understand. 

Examples have to be to the point to for anyone to understand.  While theoretically, as a going in assumption that is what is needed as a premise to win this game, I struggle to see a practical applicability as everyone else.

Valid question deserves proper response.

Read the true math dependency in Joe's post.

Yes there are endless ways of creating dependencies between bets, but what you need is a dependency which isn't created, but exists already (between spins). No created dependency between bets (or events) can create a dependency between one spin and the next. Except in very artificial situations, there can be no such dependency between spins when the conditions between successive spins haven't changed (which is the normal situation).

[mickavelli]

I struggle to see a practical applicability as everyone else. 

Hey TS,
So what was it you have tried or thought of while using this rows/columns idea??
Just EC's? Or cycles etc
Looking for ideas going forward

[Blueprint]

Money, you may want to check with your followers on the following - do they have a clear understanding of a cycle.  May sound basic and obvious but perhaps something is missing.

[Joe]

do they have a clear understanding of a cycle

I don't, so I'd like it clarified. And also the suggestion seems to be that using cycles can somehow create dependency - how?

I mean a real dependency, not the kind of pseudo dependency which doesn't affect the possible outcomes from one spin to the next. In probability terms, a real dependency should change the sample space.

[MoneyT101]

Alright, so how do you escape the spin-per-spin disadvantageous odds?  Luck?

When you include more spins

[MoneyT101]

Oh! The local community college is teaching math. Might still be time to enroll. What course do you suggest?  Algebra 101?  Statistics 202? Calculus 303?

😂😂😂

This was good

[MoneyT101]

What are everyones thoughts on this?
Let's come back to this part for a moment  before it gets away
Care to elaborate money?
To me you are hinting at constructing a kind of non random betting plan over the course of a finite amount of spins?? This would explain the "Either we have a bet or we don't" using spins in time throughout a kind of matrix

Yea but like I said it’s an idea.  But you don’t need things to be that complicated to find a way to breakout. It’s just fun trying different things and using some of the concepts