Theories, Myths, Facts And Ideas

[luckyfella]

There's nothing to find.

Then you are grossly misleading members with your software that makes nonsensical counts. And your analysing is another contradiction. When, according to you, there's nothing to find.

Not personal attack, just pointing the contradiction.

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=26336.0

You haven't found anything either, although you may think you have, just like Turbo.

I am ok with your opinion.

[Joe]

Then you are grossly misleading members with your software that makes nonsensical counts. And your analysing is another contradiction. When, according to you, there's nothing to find.

Nope. Because I say on my website that such software is for 'entertainment purposes only'. I like to analyze systems because I like math and statistics, not because I'm looking for any holy grail, which doesn't exist. People do all kinds of things which are apparently 'useless', just because they enjoying doing them.

You're the one who is misleading people and being contradictory, because you have admitted there is no dependence between spins but at the same time like to hint that there is.

Of all branches of mathematics, probability causes more confusion and misunderstanding than any other. Some really smart people have made really terrible mistakes when using it.

[Joe]

Don't go coding your excel sheet like coder Still, figure out in your head why must there be something there first.

Yes you can figure something out in your head, but you need to test the idea otherwise how do you know if it has any merit? I think this is where Turbo and others go wrong. They make assumptions but because they don't know how to properly test them or even understand what it is that they should be testing, the assumptions are never tested. They then assume that because their ideas seem to 'work', the assumptions must be true.

[Joe]

BTW, this is what I say on the 'About' page on my web site:

There have probably been more gambling systems created for Roulette than any other casino game because of the variety and type of bets you can make. But can any of these systems actually work? The mathematics says no, but I believe that it's possible to swing the edge in your favor if you stick to real wheels (avoid computer generated spins) and pay attention to factors which correlate with where the ball eventually ends up (such as wheel speed, ball type, direction of spin, degree of "scatter", etc).

I should mention that not all "system" software available on the site implements systems of this kind. In fact, the vast majority of systems created by enthusiasts are based on staking schemes, "hot" or "cold" numbers, patterns, etc. Any software which is based on this type of system should be regarded as "for entertainment purposes only", because although they can be fun to play, the mathematical expectation for these systems is that they will lose in the long run.

I'm not misleading anyone.   

[luckyfella]

Nope. Because I say on my website that such software is for 'entertainment purposes only'. I like to analyze systems because I like math and statistics, not because I'm looking for any holy grail, which doesn't exist. People do all kinds of things which are apparently 'useless', just because they enjoying doing them.

100% loser of some fancy code software is "for entertainment purpose only". Nice qualifying statement. Don't forget to bold the 100% loser no different from any random betselection to highlight the loser point in case it's misread.

[luckyfella]

I think this is where Turbo and others go wrong. They make assumptions but because they don't know how to properly test them or even understand what it is that they should be testing, the assumptions are never tested.

I can't speak for Turbo.

I accept your opinion. Told you I'm ok with that in above post.

Can we move on now ?

Or the only way for you to move on is for me to stop posting, so your opinion is heard ?

[Joe]

No matter how many times you tell people this, they never seem to get it.

link:s://medium.com/i-math/that-common-misconception-about-probabilities-3c507b892371

[Joe]

 

I accept your opinion. Told you I'm ok with that in above post.

But you still believe there is a dependency between spins. 

Scammers love guys like you and Turbo who perpetuate the myth and never back down.

[luckyfella]

Scammers love guys like you and Turbo who perpetuate the myth and never back down.

Here we go...... Scammers

Emmm......MoneyT is a scammer too.
Dyslexic, RRBB, Priyanka, blueprint......who else in the scammer list ?

Joe, end of conversation.
I have written everything there is to write. I was waiting for your response.
And you have.

People can read our posts, make their own decision. My purpose returning to this forum is complete. See ya

[Joe]

Can we move on now ?

Move on to what? The discussions always come back to the same things. Ever wondered why that is? 

But feel free, continue with your cryptic hints if you like. 

[luckyfella]

Move on to what? The discussions always come back to the same things. Ever wondered why that is? 

But feel free, continue with your cryptic hints if you like. 

For the benefit of the readers, make a clear statement here that no systems bet has a positive edge. Your post from a math major graduate might convince those reading.

[Joe]

Emmm......MoneyT is a scammer too.
Dyslexic, RRBB, Priyanka, blueprint......who else in the scammer list ?

I didn't say any of those people were scammers, although they may be for all I know. But I do know that they spread misinformation ('fake news') about systems, and that gives more power to the real scammers who depend on people's ignorance to make sales. The more people that believe systems can work, the better the scammers will do. Simple as that.

[luckyfella]

I didn't say any of those people were scammers, although they may be for all I know. But I do know that they spread misinformation ('fake news') about systems, and that gives more power to the real scammers who depend on people's ignorance to make sales. The more people that believe systems can work, the better the scammers will do. Simple as that.

Tbf, what you wrote makes sense.

But if you read this thread and forum there are tons of people who believe there is some hidden secret in roulette spins.

Some misguided arsehole with a personality disorder or scamming motive can easily string these ignorant ppl along with false claims. These ppl are desperate who bite anything that's fancy looking like codes, programs, and MM.
And on this thread, fancy betting template, learnt that from Tinsoldiers.

Time to go offline.

[Herby]

A warning from time to time is ok as there are lots of scammers around and some seem to be really dangerous.
A warning every day in the most active thread seems to be too much, you get in danger of a mental disorder as can be seen clearly (of course only) on other boards.
Higher self esteem by degrading others.

[Herby]

Thanks to luckyfella and Jo for their links.
They are really good.