Theories, Myths, Facts And Ideas

[MoneyT101]

The holy grail!  It’s an ongoing topic here and everywhere.

Many believe they have found it.  Many are searching for it. 

But does it exist?
If it existed what would it look like?
How many players have found it? 

Is it a myth/theory/idea/fact?

[MoneyT101]

I think we can guarantee a win in 5 spins! I am going to run a test today/tomorrow to find out EXACTLY what conditions are needed to guarantee a repeat on the lines within 5 spins. It would mean losing a few chips for a number of cycles - or just watching - and then when the right moment comes you can bet 1000!

I do personally believe something similar to this exist 

You believe or you know ?

No just like I said.  I believe!

I didn’t find the proper way to put it together.  So I created another way to play.

Herby, I officially know

[Elite]

The holy grail!  It’s an ongoing topic here and everywhere.

Many believe they have found it.  Many are searching for it. 

But does it exist?
If it existed what would it look like?
How many players have found it? 

Is it a myth/theory/idea/fact?

My view is holy grail of roulette means which events must occur,,,  based in that, bets are placed, some theories says it's related with repeater.HolyGrail Term means , Tracking path of  a full cycle  .. There are 3  states a cycle can be,  either less repeates,,  or more repeats  balance cycle,,, usually a cycle becomes balance  after  37  spins,,,, and mostly a balance cycle is output,,,  this system is criticise by,  that counting numbers not gives accuracy,,  so it cannot work,,, but this system player says they improve accuracy,  because they know certain events will must occur,,  example, a repeat,,,  my view only

[Person S]

Sometimes an illusion is created that this is so, but after a while the schedule decreases, and you understand that it is not him.
Pry recommended the movie Prestige.
And it has a good phrase: “some components are not enough - there should be a trick that will allow you to reproduce the focus.”
I think TRICK is what we are looking for.

[Martin369]

Hello my brothers and sisters, my gamblers and scammers.
Im just gona drop somthing here how i play colors. IF you want it, take it, if you like it, and it will work for you, you can decide if you will send me some cash for it or not its on you. Have FUN! (Money is never too much)

If this nummbers comes you bet RED -          2. 4. 5. 6. 7. 10. 12. 17. 18. 20. 22. 24. 27. 28. 30. 32. 34. 35
If this nummbers comes you bet BLACK -     1. 3. 8. 9. 11. 13. 14. 15. 16. 19. 21. 23. 25. 26. 29. 31. 33. 36

It gouse trought big Red Lines and Big Black lines easy. Biggest missed streak was 11 times.
I like to experiment with this nummbers, sometimes i play them Positive and Negative,  Positive means, if for example nummber 32 comes in, and im starting from positive that means its jumps to black collor, after that positive move i play negative move, and it means, i stay on that collor what nummber came in, after that move i play again positive, and sometimes its really fun coz you go in some really big streaks, hitting everysingle color in every spin. One time i tryed to play at Evelution gaming american Roulette, there was a hilarious situation, i started to hit every color for some time, and i felt like, what the evelution gaming site will do about it, and then after some time, came zeros like very MUCH zeros, never saw them soo much in my life so yea, that was funy. So GL guys,  I recommend this methode at european roulette.

PM me for more queastions

[Roulettebeater]

Hello my brothers and sisters, my gamblers and scammers.
Im just gona drop somthing here how i play colors. IF you want it, take it, if you like it, and it will work for you, you can decide if you will send me some cash for it or not its on you. Have FUN! (Money is never too much)

If this nummbers comes you bet RED -          2. 4. 5. 6. 7. 10. 12. 17. 18. 20. 22. 24. 27. 28. 30. 32. 34. 35
If this nummbers comes you bet BLACK -     1. 3. 8. 9. 11. 13. 14. 15. 16. 19. 21. 23. 25. 26. 29. 31. 33. 36

It gouse trought big Red Lines and Big Black lines easy. Biggest missed streak was 11 times.
I like to experiment with this nummbers, sometimes i play them Positive and Negative,  Positive means, if for example nummber 32 comes in, and im starting from positive that means its jumps to black collor, after that positive move i play negative move, and it means, i stay on that collor what nummber came in, after that move i play again positive, and sometimes its really fun coz you go in some really big streaks, hitting everysingle color in every spin. One time i tryed to play at Evelution gaming american Roulette, there was a hilarious situation, i started to hit every color for some time, and i felt like, what the evelution gaming site will do about it, and then after some time, came zeros like very MUCH zeros, never saw them soo much in my life so yea, that was funy. So GL guys,  I recommend this methode at european roulette.

PM me for more queastions

lets get ignatus develop this logic and run a stress test!

[ati]

But does it exist?
If it existed what would it look like?  My simplest answer is that the result should be 100% predictable and a profit must be guaranteed in let's say 30 spins.
How many players have found it?    Impossible to tell, as most readers never post on the forum. From "recently" active members I'd say only Pri, Redd, and perhaps you? But you said you don't play so who knows 

Is it a myth/theory/idea/fact? To me the HG is still a theory. But I wholeheartedly believe in its existence.

Herby, I officially know

Does that mean you can guarantee a profit in 5 spins?

[ati]

All this time I was convinced that in order to win, we must bet every single spin. The posts I have quoted on the 5th page strongly suggest that. But now I'm starting to believe it may not be essential. See the below quote from Pri

There are multiple ways I use my concepts. One is continuous betting where the win rate staggers around 1.3 to 1.4. One is betting selectively

To me betting selectively sounds a bit like waiting for a trigger and targeting one or two spins. That's something we were told would not work, but I'm looking into it.

[anadenanthera]

All this time I was convinced that in order to win, we must bet every single spin. The posts I have quoted on the 5th page strongly suggest that. But now I'm starting to believe it may not be essential. See the below quote from Pri

To me betting selectively sounds a bit like waiting for a trigger and targeting one or two spins. That's something we were told would not work, but I'm looking into it.

From a probability standpoint there is no difference between betting every spin and walking away after every spin and betting once per hour.

That is, unless you are clocking the wheel and looking for bias, then it does matter.

For any other approach, the probability of an event never changes. Bet every spin, bet once per day, the results will be within a few standard deviations in almost all cases over time.

[Martin369]

lets get ignatus develop this logic and run a stress test!

Hello Roulettebeater, can You tell me what you mean about Ignatus, Is it a Guy who runs tests on strategys? I wuld love to see results from it, and i have more ideas how we can make money. Now im playing Codex369 but with just 4 to 8 bets and its gouse very nice thats why im sharing this colors methode that i played before.  Maby you know a guy who can make a programm that counts nr and place bets? Is it even possible to build somthing like that? I have an idea and i wuld love to shear with someone who is intrested to build a moneymachine.

[Herby]

can make a programm that counts nr and place bets? Is it even possible to build somthing like that?

Hi Martin,
member "webstars" seems to be the best for your needs.
I buildt a program for one betting site from scratch, its a hell of work if one begins at zero level.

Testing with other programming : pm

[Martin369]

Hi Martin,
member "webstars" seems to be the best for your needs.
I buildt a program for one betting site from scratch, its a hell of work if one begins at zero level.

Testing with other programming : pm

Thanks Herby for info. 

[MoneyT101]

Does that mean you can guarantee a profit in 5 spins?

I figured out how to do it using a stitched bet.  It used double street cycles vs stitched dozen/double street cycles.  By adjusting the units to your stitched bet you can create a situation to lose less on cycles but still always win the same amount on a win.

But it gets very confusing once we get a lot of repeats.  So I put it aside cause I can’t play that live.

I like creating my methods based on making sure by the end of a cycle I’m in profit and simple enough where I can use pen and paper and make quick decisions.

The best method I created is the one I spoke about in this thread early on.  Yes it uses a progression +1 progressively based on  loss recovery and win amount to end at +1.

I’ve played it live and it’s doing good... longest spins I played before a win was about 14-16.  Had to go to step 4 of the progression which is 4 units.  So nothing crazy.  I’ve tested a lot on rx as well.  The way I created the method is like a mirror if I have 6 events I found a way to double them to 12.  Payout for each event stays the same but now I have more events so I made it harder to get all the events to happen before I win.

Goes back to the same idea about not getting all 37 unique numbers in 37 spins... imagine getting 74 unique numbers in 74 spins.

I’m looking into the parachute progression because I think it will be perfect with better results.

[MoneyT101]

All this time I was convinced that in order to win, we must bet every single spin. The posts I have quoted on the 5th page strongly suggest that. But now I'm starting to believe it may not be essential. See the below quote from Pri

To me betting selectively sounds a bit like waiting for a trigger and targeting one or two spins. That's something we were told would not work, but I'm looking into it.

The problem I’ve had with everything we learned is that we had to many things and concepts everywhere.  Don’t get caught up in what was being taught...  use it to improve or get better understanding but create your own style.

Use logical steps based on what you learned but just find a way to win. 

You don’t have to follow cycles based on what you learned.

You can have a cycle of something end and decide to close the cycle your tracking. 

Rules aren’t written in stone.  You can make your own rules

Just Win!

[ati]

It's nice to hear it's working for you. 

Goes back to the same idea about not getting all 37 unique numbers in 37 spins... imagine getting 74 unique numbers in 74 spins.

Yesterday I was trying how I could make use of 72 numbers by stitching together high/low and straight numbers.

Could a reduced / increased number set assist you ?

I was also thinking how would it be possible to reduce the number sets, but I just couldn't find a way. Have less than 37 numbers with the same pay out? That'd be nice. 

Increasing the numbers can be done easily in many different ways, but I could never make use of them. Instead it can make things worse.
For example the way Priyanka shows in the Birthday paradox topic to stitch together EC and dozen we get 6 different outcomes (events), but the bet is always on dozens and only the events are stitched the bets are not. So 6 outcomes with 2 to 1 pay out is not that great. I wish Pri or rrbb was still around, I would have so many questions now.
I think I understand the most important concepts see the logic behind them, and I'm just one step away from beating the game, but I'm stuck. Maybe my problem is related to the bet sizes. I'm not sure how flat is a flat bet winning system. I never change my stake amounts, but maybe I should increase it based on the likelihood of the event I'm betting for...? But at the same time I try not to bet for one particular event. As every spin is a new event and within the cycles each outcome has a certain probability to happen based on the statistical constants that were shown to us.