What is THE BEST system? With real money!

[Steve]

The thing about random is it's random, meaning it is unpredictable, meaning you are stuck at random odds, meaning no matter what you do, you are going to eventually lose.

Saying random is predictable and you can beat random is like saying you love to swim but hate getting wet.

[gizmotron2]

The thing about random is it's random, meaning it is unpredictable, meaning you are stuck at random odds, meaning no matter what you do, you are going to eventually lose.

Saying random is predictable and you can beat random is like saying you love to swim but hate getting wet.

Random is 100% unpredictable. There is no way to prove that you are going to eventually lose or eventually win for that matter. You can beat random consistently if you target one of its key characteristics. If you look for patterns and trends they are meaningless formations that only exist in your mind. In other words they have no connection to cause and effect. They are sequences of pure random events. But they do have one connection to reality. That connection is timing. There are times when the formations connect with win streaks. It's all coincidence. There are also times when they don't win. There are times when they in fact have losing streaks.

People want to think it is about something that it can never be, prediction. That's easy to understand and to dismiss. It's much harder to go looking for good timing where meaningless coincidences occur at the same time that win streaks do. There is no magical method to connecting them. It's just a coincidence of timing. I can target when they combine for good timing for my advantage. I can duck out of the way when they don't connect as good timing. I have taught others to do it too. It's just an acquired skill. It's like riding a bike. Once you can see it you can't go back to not seeing it.

The thing is to get good at the skill. Then the real works starts. Can you keep your cool while all around you are losing theirs? It's not easy to sit there and risk your hard earned money. It changes how you act when you see these coincidental opportunities. You can't predict what will happen or how long these connections continue. Steve is totally right. You can't know what randomness will do. It takes experience to handle losses.

[Steve]

If it's completely random, then timing doesn't make it predictable.
If it did, then it wouldn't be random, would it?

[gizmotron2]

If it's completely random, then timing doesn't make it predictable.
If it did, then it wouldn't be random, would it?

That is 100% right. I agree. You can see a thing continuing but you have no capability to know if it will continue or end on the next spin. I just do better betting on strong continuing things then I do if I just try to bet the same thing while something else is happening, including it being nowhere in sight. I call it the first try effect. I feel hugely lucky when I get that first bet. I make my money when there is a slow grind upward. I protect my bankroll during all other times. That is what I mean by timing. Not only can I see a win streak but so can the pit bosses. They come over and hover over the table when it happens. Those pit bosses must be real smart.

[Steve]

You can see a thing continuing but you have no capability to know if it will continue or end on the next spin

You mean you have seen previous spins that appeared to be a trend. But it was just typical random. Remember you don't know it is "continuing". You already agreed it cant be predicted.

you have no capability to know if it will continue or end on the next spin. I just do better betting on strong continuing things

So you wait for what you perceive to be a strong trend. But you already agreed there is no predictability. So what's the point?

I make my money when there is a slow grind upward. I protect my bankroll during all other times.

Again if you have no accuracy, you cant know if lower or higher bets will be best.

Can you explain these contradictions?

[Taotie]

STFU, Steve.

Just send me a computer on the buy now pay later plan please.

[Steve]

Blow a goat

[Taotie]

[Steve]

Must say, the thumbnail image made that video look like... something different.

You love goats. I didnt know that about you.

[gizmotron2]

You mean you have seen previous spins that appeared to be a trend. But it was just typical random. Remember you don't know it is "continuing". You already agreed it cant be predicted.

So you wait for what you perceive to be a strong trend. But you already agreed there is no predictability. So what's the point?

Again if you have no accuracy, you cant know if lower or higher bets will be best.

Can you explain these contradictions?

Steve, I don't care if you can't do this. If I see B B B B B B B B B B B I will have already won my three net wins. 10 or 11 reds in a row are not magical thinking. It happens. I'm tickled pink that people can't exploit that. There is no contradiction. I do have accuracy. It's based on the swarms of types of characteristics in formation with positive effectiveness. I bet big when it is working. I know when it is working and when it is not working. Where is there a need for prediction? I make money as long as this continues to work. It's conditional awareness not prediction. I know you are stuck on prediction.

When you watch a football game can you see who is winning? It's not too hard. I depend on the conditions for effectiveness. I can see them easily. I'm not trying to predict anything. I'm observing the conditions. They change. I know this because I'm  looking for that. They change from good to bad and back to good. I don't understand why this is so difficult to understand. I'm bored with prediction. It's not effective. It can't be done anyway. You could say temperature is not possible. The secret to winning is temperature and air density. Let's drag that to death for a few years.

[Steve]

When you watch a football game can you see who is winning?

Thats like turbos horse racing nonsense. Right at the end, horse #8 is about to win. It has no relevance to roulette. The difference with roulette is there is no race.  Just independent events. And what happens next has unchanged odds. The wheel doesnt give a shit if you think its a race.

Now you want to criticise physics. It doesn't work? Whats the cause of the winning number? Fairies?

You say you're bored of prediction. It doesnt work, for you. So you predict steaks, but you dont predict them, but you do.

Unfortunately you're really lost. You made even more contradictions but dont understand them either.

You dont need to get defensive. If you're right and I'm the clueless one, just keep winning. Make a fool of me.

[gizmotron2]

I don't care. I'm no longer the only one perfecting this skill. Perhaps someone will come along one day and do a better job of explaining this.

so temperature matters? I did not know that. I never meant to classify a deplorable in physics. It must just be a coincidental comment. I actually think that computers and physics works. It would be fun to write the software. I actually know the brother of one of the first people that invented it for a computer. Sure, it's possible and even likely. They proved it.

I just don't need it. Let's just drop all this crap.

[Scarface]

A system that starts off as a flatbet playing many numbers to fewer numbers (parachute).  A system that uses a positive progression (up as you win) opposed to a negative (up as you lose)

[Steve]

Perhaps someone will come along one day and do a better job of explaining this.

“If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself.”
― Albert Einstein

I know I can appear annoying. But I'm just asking valid questions that should be asked.

so temperature matters?

Yes because materials expand. But like air pressure, we dont need to measure it. How the changes are dealt with depends on the method of prediction.

Let's just drop all this crap.

You don't need to answer questions. But discussion is the forum's purpose.

[gizmotron2]

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“If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself.” ― Albert Einstein

I know I can appear annoying. But I'm just asking valid questions that should be asked.

I just wanted you to know that I was not trying to insult you with the temperature comment. It has nothing to do with prediction.

What I was trying to say is that the shoes that you wear can't tell the future. I'm hoping that a six year old can see that. Nobody can know the future by guessing.

For the sake of a six year old I will try one last time with a Turboesque euphemistic axiom. You can't bet on a thing to continue if it is not already continuing first. It can change on the first attempt to bet on it and lose, or it will continue and win that next bet.  It can win from dumb luck through selection for a different reason. But that would not be connected to the condition of continuing. My point is that the next bet is selected because it is in a state of continuance and not because of an ability to predict that it will happen my way.

There, now the logic of TurboGenius is invoked.

My conclusion is that a thing that is selected for continuation is not the same as a thing that is selected because of a magic nonexistent capacity for telling the future, "prediction."

So the shoes that you wear can't read randomness. That is two skills that they lack. So ends the story of the magic shoes.