Winning system

[Joe]

So you say that betting large martingale bets based on the recommendation of a software based service you know nothing about is realistic without the seller having any liability when it fails.

I'm not recommending this particular system because I know nothing about it, I was just making a comment about selling systems in general.

Of course it's reasonable to ask why anyone would sell a system when they can just use it themselves to make as much money as they want. On that basis some people believe that whoever sells a system must be a scammer, but I don't agree. There could be reasons why you can't or don't want to use the system yourself, and even if there aren't, why not sell it if doing so doesn't make any difference to the availability of roulette?

Steve sells a system, does everyone think he is a scammer?

[Kairomancer]

Well, Bp12 you are the one making the claim that your system wins more than it loses and it is working.
If it is true then of course, you should be held liable for losses as you can take your share on the winnings as well.

Otherwise under the same software lease business frame sellers can claim anything under the sun and offer garbage and get away with it, because 80% players win and 20% suck up all the losses.

Anyway good luck with your system. I won't post in your thread anymore.
Very well you may be a honest system seller.

[Steeefan2014]

Well, Bp12 you are the one making the claim that your system wins more than it loses and it is working.
If it is true then of course, you should be held liable for losses as you can take your share on the winnings as well.

Otherwise under the same software lease business frame sellers can claim anything under the sun and offer garbage and get away with it, because 80% players win and 20% suck up all the losses.

Anyway good luck with your system. I won't post in your thread anymore.
Very well you may be a honest system seller.

Somehow, you are right! But I don't think that anyone can hold BP12 responsable for others mistakes (not respecting the minimum BR, not quitting when he reaches a stoploss or I don't know what else....)

There are a lot of crazy gamblers out there who get carried away and lose a lot - personally, been there, done that! And why should I blame BP12? He told me what to do. ...

[BP12]

I guess we agree to disagree. I hear what you saying and part of it I agree with but also I think that it’s wrong to hold me responsible for others losses and misstakes just like Stefan said. Unfortunately there will always be loosing players that gets to greedy or maybe scared when they don’t get the win right away and therefore don’t follow the rules. I would concider a refound for the software and system if anyone could prove they followed the rules and still loosed, but for the losses It self I think it’s fair that the buyer should be responsible since he knows the risk when Investing.

You are free to keep posting if you want, just don’t jump in to conclusions to fast before posting. I rather have you asking me questions that I could answer instead.

[Ravenous Treasure]

People use the word "Scammer" very loosely on here. I personally believe BP is anything but a scammer..he's not committing fraud nor is he participating in a dishonest scheme. In fact I would say the exact opposite..he believes in his system completely. Why? Well because it has worked for him and he has profited from it very nicely. So he's offering it to others at a price after doing all the work WITH HIS OWN REAL MONEY! If people choose to purchase it then great..if not then whatever. As far as him being responsible for buyers losses..that's foolish. Is the state required to pay me back my losses on a lottery ticket? No..because they make it very clear that it's not a GUARANTEE just like BP has multiple times. He believes in it..offers a trial and is willing to spend the time with people who buy it individually and work them through it. I don't know what else you could ask for?

[Steeefan2014]

Hi everyone,

For the last 3 days I had - again - the possibility to test BP12's system. Actually... 2 days for play money, 1 day for real. What can I say? It works!

It happened 2 times to reach the stoploss limit. Once for play money... and it hit on the last step.
Once... for real money and what do you think? It didn't hit, I went all the way and lost the BR )) - here it's my fault, can't blame BP12 for this because I got warned

Anyway, now I'm playing on RNG (about 300 spins/hour), not more than 1hour/session. Aprox profit... 200units/session (give or take a few).

I'll try to test it more, see where it goes with this.

[BP12]

So since I got some requests I just want to say that the trials is over for now. I will let the last guys finnish their period and then I will have a break from this.

[holy roller]

I use.... iprosyllabus software. In the past three days I have made $600 in maybe an hour and a half or a little longer. It seems to work really well plus..... it's not $2500! 

[Steve]

Holyroller, that system doesnt work. What you experienced is wins from random bets. I'm not trying to convince you. Time will.

[holy roller]

Yep you won't convince me Steve and BO ill never convince me to pay him $2500 for his either. By the way what I am using is considerably less than $2500.00 

Why would I pay $2500 for someone's first program? Why would I pay anything that is untested? No YouTube videos (which can be manipulated), etc.?

[Steve]

Happy winnings. You know what youre talking about.

[Steeefan2014]

Yep you won't convince me Steve and BO ill never convince me to pay him $2500 for his either. By the way what I am using is considerably less than $2500.00 

Why would I pay $2500 for someone's first program? Why would I pay anything that is untested? No YouTube videos (which can be manipulated), etc.?

I'm not the one who is suposed to judge the price BP12 is asking for his system. What can I say is that I tested it. And - as long as I did - for me it worked and still is. Regarding the price, it's only up to him to decide. It's his work, nobody can put a price on that, except himself.

[Elite]

Who ever designing a system,  I will suggest always give option of upload file and test,,  that way a system can b tested   easily and quickly,,  if that option not there, it means  owner  himself not tested his system thoroughly,,,  I m working on roulette syllabus software,,  and planning to make video of my testing,,  to reveal its effectiveness,, 

[Steve]

Unless you have data additional to mere bets, a video would need to be weeks long to have statistically significant data. I could even show you a system that won for a year, but it eventually lost too. Its a year of play enough proof? Maybe 8000 spins.. nope.

[Serendipity]

I'd love to have a system that wins for a year And if loses after that... Well... I could live with that