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Ignatus - Best System (Test / Review)

Started by Fateichel, Jan 22, 09:10 PM 2020

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Fateichel

Ok guys... first you should know that i am a big fan of Ignatus. And that he has nothing to do with this thread.
What he does for us and the forum is incredible! He share his systems for free and thats not often these days.
If you want to support him - donate: link:://paypal.me/ignatus1

I openend this thread to share with you my expierence. I want to know which of his systems he developed the best is.
I know all his system. And i tested all of them with thousend of sessions in RX.
I chose the 3 i believe are the best and which gave me the best (RNG in RX) results!

How i test:
I played all 3 systems under the same condition, with the same live roulette table numbers (German Roulete, Playtech, 22.01.2020).
And here are the results of the first 10 session i made today.


First Conclusion:

1) Perfect20:

- maybe the holy grail
- fun and short session (around 20-30 spins)
- extrem high winrate
- easy - semieasy to play (same 20 numbers - easy progression)
- longtime winner (9/10 wins)
- its not that profitable like Dragzone20 (per session) but you can play much more  of the shorter sessions - so you will make more money in less time



2) Dragonzone 20:
- you wait for triggers (so you have time reset your mind or smoke some cigarettes ;)
- you place on a big amount of numbers - im not sure if its possible to play on live tables (short betting time)
- session are longer (around 120 spins)
- (maybe to) hard to play (forcing mistakes) - different numbers with more complex progression
- i think its impossible to place all bets in that small time (without mistakes)
- looks promising at the moment (winrate around 60% - its enough to earn profit)



3) X18:
- In RX Simulation Mode - its Ignatus best System so far! Its incredible. 9/10 wins
- on Live Tables i had more bad session - i think its important to have a higher bankroll (350)
- You place bets every round on a moderate amound of numbers (easy to play)
- session are moderate (around 60-80 spins)
- need to test with a higher bankroll (even after this i had more losing sessions)
- actually cant recommend to play live




Overall Result: At this moment Perfect20 is the winner. It has a extrem highwinrate. Small risk. You can play alot of small session in a very short time. So you will make more profit (as you can see in this test). Its really easy to play.




Test 1
Wingoal: +400
Stoploss: - 200
Bankroll: 200

Dragonzone 20: -90 (-90)
X18: -220 (-220)
Perfect20: +60 (60)



Test 2
Wingoal: +400
Stoploss: - 200
Bankroll: 200

Dragonzone 20: -60 (-150)
X18: - 110 (-330)
Perfect20:  +60 (120)



Test 3
Wingoal: +400
Stoploss: - 200
Bankroll: 200

Dragonzone 20: -100 (-250)
X18: +400 (70)
Perfect20:  +60 (180)




Test 4
Wingoal: +400
Stoploss: - 200
Bankroll: 200

Dragonzone 20: +400 (150)
X18: -190 (-120)
Perfect20:  +60 (240)



Test 5
Wingoal: +400
Stoploss: - 200
Bankroll: 200

Dragonzone 20: -200 (-50)
X18: -140 (-260)
Perfect20:  +60 (300)


-----------------------
Stoploss now -350


Test 6
Wingoal: +400
Stoploss: - 350
Bankroll: 200

Dragonzone 20: +400 (350)
X18: -200 (-460)
Perfect20:  +60 (360)


Test 7
Wingoal: +400
Stoploss: - 350
Bankroll: 200

Dragonzone 20: -280 (70)
X18: -350 (-810)
Perfect20:  -140 (220)




Test 8
Wingoal: +400
Stoploss: - 350
Bankroll: 200

Dragonzone 20: +400 (470)
X18: +400 (-410)
Perfect20:  +60 (280)



Test 9
Wingoal: +400
Stoploss: - 350
Bankroll: 200

Dragonzone 20: -350 (120)
X18: -350 (-760)
Perfect20:  +60 (340)


Test 10
Wingoal: +400
Stoploss: - 350
Bankroll: 200

Dragonzone 20: +400 (520)
X18: +440 (-320)
Perfect20:  +60 (400)



Fateichel


Serendipity

Quote from: Fateichel on Jan 22, 09:23 PM 2020
Next test tomorrow.
In the first place I want to thank Ignatus and you for your hard work.
In the end I wanna thank you again!

One more question: what was your MM when you tested perfect 20, because from what I've seen you won all sessions with 60 and lost one with 140. So you used a special MM for this system instead of 400/200 or 400/350? Thx
Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right!

Fateichel

Quote from: Serendipity on Jan 23, 01:38 AM 2020
In the first place I want to thank Ignatus and you for your hard work.
In the end I wanna thank you again!

One more question: what was your MM when you tested perfect 20, because from what I've seen you won all sessions with 60 and lost one with 140. So you used a special MM for this system instead of 400/200 or 400/350? Thx

I used the latest version of perfect20

Wingoal: 60
Stoploss: 120

themoneymaker

First of all, thank you for doing such a great work. Best regards to you!

Just one question: for example, test was wingoal: +400, stoploss: - 200 and Bankroll: 200.

But you said you used another MM, which would be WG +50 SL -100 (last version of perfect20).

So, haven't you used the perfect20 with wg +400 and sl -200 in order to compare?

Fateichel

Today i learned something new... never trust a system ;)

Today i focused on testing Perfect20

I had 20 session. 10 wins 10 losses.
This means a loss of -600

I will focus on Dragonzone now

Steeefan2014

Happend to me also today!

14 sessions... 6 wins, 8 lost!

Anyway, Ignatus... great job! Thanks for the effort!

ignatus

Quote from: Fateichel on Jan 23, 02:48 PM 2020
Today i learned something new... never trust a system ;)

Today i focused on testing Perfect20

I had 20 session. 10 wins 10 losses.
This means a loss of -600

I will focus on Dragonzone now

Alright, check the new HotSector10, ...

But there is always a tweak to be done, with the progression. (As Always).

I think winkels Fibonacci-ladder works very good. (short term) ofc..

IF winkels fibonacci -ladder would be adapted to all betselections we be better off now.

_____I have Explained this (simple Fibonacci: 1,2,3,5,8,13,21,32,55,89..) Bet according to Cycles. (10 number 3 spins Then +1 Step in the Ladder) -1 Step in the Ladder for each Win. (and Reset when reached a new high)

I can change the code for the Systems you want to test now for better results ok

If you like to donate link::[url="//paypal.me/ignatus1"]//paypal.me/ignatus1[/url]

"Focus on predicting wheel sectors where the ball is expected to land" ~Steve

ignatus

Well! Testing now and comparing the Original. I keep the Original... it had better results...btw this had about a true 80% winrate now WG+500 / SL(BR) 1000u

You cant play this with Less BR than 1000u IF you want a 80% Winrate. (That´s my conclution)...anyway...

RX-code Dragonzone20
system "DRAGONZONE 20"
// © ignatus 2020 ©

method "main"
begin
  while starting a new session
  begin
    put 0 to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data

    Set List[1,2,4,9,21,47]
    //4,8,15,28,53]
         to Record "progression" Data

   Set List[1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13]
     to Record "Spin counter" Data
   end

   while on each spin
  begin
 
  Track last Number for 1 spins to
Record "last1" layout

    if any inside bet lost each
begin
Add 1 to Record "progression" Data index
end

    if any inside bet won each
begin
{ add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index

      if Bankroll >= Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
    begin
        clear Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
        put 100% Bankroll to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
        put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
    end
}
set flag "bet" false
put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
put 1 on Record "Spin counter" Data index
clear Record "bet" layout
clear Record "bet1" layout
end



{  if Record "Spin counter" Data index >= 9
   begin
   set flag "bet" false
   put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
   put 1 on Record "Spin counter" Data index
   clear Record "bet" layout
   clear Record "bet1" layout
   end
  }


IF record "last1" layout is found within record "secondlast" layout
  begin

   set flag "bet" true
   Put 10 on Neighbor Count
   Copy Record "last1" layout to Record "bet1" layout
   Copy Neighbors of Record "bet1" layout
   to Record "bet" Layout

  // Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "bet" layout list
  // Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "bet1" layout list

  // add 1 to Record "Spin counter" Data index
  end


IF flag "bet" true each
begin
   add 1 to Record "Spin counter" Data index
   Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "bet" layout list
  // Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "bet1" layout list
end
{if total bankroll >= 2000 each time
begin
stop session
end
}

if total bankroll >= 500 each time
begin
stop session
end

if total bankroll <= -1000 each time
begin
stop session
end


  If Record "progression" Data Index >
  Record "progression" Data Count
    Begin
    set flag "bet" false
    put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
    put 1 on Record "Spin counter" Data index
    clear Record "bet" layout
    clear Record "bet1" layout
   End
   
    Track last Number for 10 spins to
Record "secondlast" layout


  end
END

If you like to donate link::[url="//paypal.me/ignatus1"]//paypal.me/ignatus1[/url]

"Focus on predicting wheel sectors where the ball is expected to land" ~Steve

Fateichel

Quote from: ignatus on Jan 23, 03:55 PM 2020
Well! Testing now and comparing the Original. I keep the Original... it had better results...btw this had about a true 80% winrate now WG+500 / SL(BR) 1000u

You cant play this with Less BR than 1000u IF you want a 80% Winrate. (That´s my conclution)...anyway...

RX-code Dragonzone20
system "DRAGONZONE 20"
// © ignatus 2020 ©

method "main"
begin
  while starting a new session
  begin
    put 0 to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data

    Set List[1,2,4,9,21,47]
    //4,8,15,28,53]
         to Record "progression" Data

   Set List[1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13]
     to Record "Spin counter" Data
   end

   while on each spin
  begin
 
  Track last Number for 1 spins to
Record "last1" layout

    if any inside bet lost each
begin
Add 1 to Record "progression" Data index
end

    if any inside bet won each
begin
{ add 1 on Record "progression" Data Index

      if Bankroll >= Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
    begin
        clear Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
        put 100% Bankroll to Record "Highest Bankroll" Data
        put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
    end
}
set flag "bet" false
put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
put 1 on Record "Spin counter" Data index
clear Record "bet" layout
clear Record "bet1" layout
end



{  if Record "Spin counter" Data index >= 9
   begin
   set flag "bet" false
   put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
   put 1 on Record "Spin counter" Data index
   clear Record "bet" layout
   clear Record "bet1" layout
   end
  }


IF record "last1" layout is found within record "secondlast" layout
  begin

   set flag "bet" true
   Put 10 on Neighbor Count
   Copy Record "last1" layout to Record "bet1" layout
   Copy Neighbors of Record "bet1" layout
   to Record "bet" Layout

  // Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "bet" layout list
  // Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "bet1" layout list

  // add 1 to Record "Spin counter" Data index
  end


IF flag "bet" true each
begin
   add 1 to Record "Spin counter" Data index
   Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "bet" layout list
  // Put 100% of Record "progression" Data to Record "bet1" layout list
end
{if total bankroll >= 2000 each time
begin
stop session
end
}

if total bankroll >= 500 each time
begin
stop session
end

if total bankroll <= -1000 each time
begin
stop session
end


  If Record "progression" Data Index >
  Record "progression" Data Count
    Begin
    set flag "bet" false
    put 1 on Record "progression" Data Index
    put 1 on Record "Spin counter" Data index
    clear Record "bet" layout
    clear Record "bet1" layout
   End
   
    Track last Number for 10 spins to
Record "secondlast" layout


  end
END


You Talking about perfect20 or Dragonzone were you need 1000 bankroll minimum???

ignatus

Quote from: Fateichel on Jan 23, 04:30 PM 2020
You Talking about perfect20 or Dragonzone were you need 1000 bankroll minimum???

Dragonzone. ofc, you could try a Lower Br, but that wont give that 80% winrate like a 1000u BR give. test and see...
If you like to donate link::[url="//paypal.me/ignatus1"]//paypal.me/ignatus1[/url]

"Focus on predicting wheel sectors where the ball is expected to land" ~Steve

Serendipity

Quote from: Fateichel on Jan 23, 02:48 PM 2020
Today i learned something new... never trust a system ;)

Today i focused on testing Perfect20

I had 20 session. 10 wins 10 losses.
This means a loss of -600

I will focus on Dragonzone now
It's strange and confusing the fact that you can get 9 wins out of 10 sessions (90% win rate) and after that you can play another 20 sessions and get only 50% win rate. I mean it's a big difference... Something is missing here...
Whether you think you can or you can't, you're probably right!

Fateichel

Quote from: Serendipity on Jan 23, 04:37 PM 2020
It's strange and confusing the fact that you can get 9 wins out of 10 sessions (90% win rate) and after that you can play another 20 sessions and get only 50% win rate. I mean it's a big difference... Something is missing here...
it is  :'(

Fateichel


Test 11
Wingoal: +400
Stoploss: - 350
Bankroll: 200

Dragonzone 20: +400 (920)


Test 12
Wingoal: +400
Stoploss: - 350
Bankroll: 200

Dragonzone 20: +400 (1320)




Test 13
Wingoal: +400
Stoploss: - 350
Bankroll: 200

Dragonzone 20: -300 (1120)


Test 14
Wingoal: +400
Stoploss: - 350
Bankroll: 200

Dragonzone 20: -300 (820)


Test 15
Wingoal: +400
Stoploss: - 350
Bankroll: 200

Dragonzone 20: -300 (520)


Test 16
Wingoal: +400
Stoploss: - 350
Bankroll: 200

Dragonzone 20: +400 (920)


Test 17
Wingoal: +400
Stoploss: - 350
Bankroll: 200

Dragonzone 20: +400 (1320)


Test 18
Wingoal: +400
Stoploss: - 350
Bankroll: 200

Dragonzone 20: -300 (1020)


Test 19
Wingoal: +400
Stoploss: - 350
Bankroll: 200

Dragonzone 20: -300 (720)


Test 20
Wingoal: +400
Stoploss: - 350
Bankroll: 200

Dragonzone 20: -300 (420)

ignatus

Quote from: Fateichel on Jan 23, 06:13 PM 2020
it is  :'(

The nature of the bet (20 numbers+Neg progression) you can´t expect to win 80% with a low bankroll....then calculate what BR you need for the whole progressionline (As i said a larger BR is needed for Dragonzone, the way its played now...)

Ofc, different progressionlines may work, for an example 1,2,4,8,13,20,30,50.. etc (50u MAX for 1000u Max-total-bet,for livetables..)
If you like to donate link::[url="//paypal.me/ignatus1"]//paypal.me/ignatus1[/url]

"Focus on predicting wheel sectors where the ball is expected to land" ~Steve

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