Six Splits To Win!

[chrisbis]

@  reincarnation

Does the maths work for that progression then buddy?

Can you show a table pls? If you don't mind.  



(table of progression level, total bet, return, profit/loss)

I Used my 1,1,2,3,4,6,9,14 this evening. (but the latter half of this progression is really too thin, so I'll be looking at others this week,  including Urs reincarnation)

[reincarnation]

@  reincarnation

Does the maths work for that progression then buddy?

Can you show a table pls? If you don't mind.  



(table of progression level, total bet, return, profit/loss)

I Used my 1,1,2,3,4,6,9,14 this evening. (but the latter half of this progression is really too thin, so I'll be looking at others this week,  including Urs reincarnation)

Please note, I use 0.5 chips


Bet Size    Total Bet      Profit

  1                3                 +6
  1                3                 +3
  2                6                 +3
 2.5              7.5         +3
 3.5            10.5       +1.5
 5.5            16.5         +3
  8              24               +1.5
 12              36               +1.5
 18              54               +1.5


The maximum step I have reached is '6' i.e a bet size of 5.5 units or total bet of 16.5.

[ewarwoowar]

i think after a very promising start with this system, it seems to have hit a brick wall for many of us.
i think on balance, a shorter progression is needed. probably 1122 or maybe even 112233 and then take the loss and retrack.
i've even thought of the possibility of tracking for 12 unique splits and then bet the FIRST six that showed, not the sleepers. looking through my records, that seems to hold up.
maybe a flash in the pan?

[chrisbis]

Please note, I use 0.5 chips


Bet Size    Total Bet      Profit

  1                3                 +6
  1                3                 +3
  2                6                 +3
 2.5              7.5         +3
 3.5            10.5       +1.5
 5.5            16.5         +3
  8              24               +1.5
 12              36               +1.5
 18              54               +1.5


The maximum step I have reached is '6' i.e a bet size of 5.5 units or total bet of 16.5.

On level 4- 2.5/2 (since U play with 0.50 chips) how do U place 1.25 chips per split?
On level 5- 3.5/2 (since U play with 0.50 chips) how do U place 1.75 chips per split?
On level 6- 5.5/2 (since U play with 0.50 chips) how do U place 2.75 chips per split?

Or does the table/casino U play, at also have 0.25 denomination chips, but the minimum is 0.50 table lower limit?

Just curious that's all? ?

[reincarnation]

Or does the table/casino you play, at also have 0.25 denomination chips, but the minimum is 0.50 table lower limit?

Just curious that's all? ?

Yes, the table I play with supports 0.25.

[chrisbis]

Interesting progression you have got, but do you agree, for the bet stake and risk involved
(although not as bad as a Marty) the return is very thin indeed?

That said, its a nice, slow, safe for BankRoll progress, so there is a plus point to it.

Wonder if Droganson would consider re-examining the instructions on this,
and maybe only going for the single win,
before then re-tracking for another 12 furthest splits?


Sounds like ewarwoowar has something
that sits in-between Furthest and Recent!!

New system being bourne!

[reincarnation]

Well, it is thin if it hits very far down the line in that progression. But, so far, in 3-5 sessions I play daily, I am getting some decent wins and never past level 6 as I mentioned before. So far, so good for me atleast ... But yes, lets say I get my first win after 4 or 5 levels, I just quit and do not wait for the second win. Restart all over again.

[chrisbis]

In its current form then, the rules may want a small tweak to them.

Where U play?

PM if confidential.

[reincarnation]

I play at Smart Live Casino

[Normy2000]

Hi All,

After few good results, i did modify my Last 18 tracker to fit this system (attach excel file).

Personally, i stop after the first win and retract next 12 splits.  I went pretty high in the progression trying to get the second hit.

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Cheers, Normy

[GLC]

Can you please illustrate with an example please? can't seem to get my head around it

I'm sorry that I haven't been able to get back to the forum sooner, but I'm very, very busy with work and have little spare time.

The progression I suggested is very simple once you understand the principles behind it.
So you don't have to look back it is 1-1-2-2; 2-2-4-4; 3-3-6-6; 4-4-8-8 etc... or the a more aggressive line is 1-1-2-2; 2-2-4-4; 4-4-8-8; 8-8-12-12; etc...
It's built on the base level of 1-1-2-2.  Each level thereafter is a multiplication of the base level.

So, the second level of 2-2-4-4 is just 1-1-2-2 times 2 for each bet.

If you bet using the 1st 4 bets or level 1 you get the following:
1 unit bet = -6 on a loss or +12 on a win.
1 unit bet = -12 on a loss or +6 on a win.
2 unit bet = -24 on a loss or +12 on a win.
2 unit bet = -36 on a loss or 0 on a win.

If you win any of these 4 bets you just start over with the 1st 1 unit bet.

If you lose all 4 bets, you will be down 36 units.  If the hit rate in the 1st 4 bets of this system is high enough, you could just start over after a 4 loss series and keep cycling through the basic 4 bets until you reach your win target or stop loss.

I suggest that to recover the 36 unit loss we go to the next level 2-2-4-4.

Now we begin our 1st bet at 2 units instead of 1 unit.

2 unit bet = -12 on a loss or +24 on a win.
2 unit bet = -24 on a loss or +12 on a win.
4 unit bet = -48 on a loss or +24 on a win.
4 unit bet = -72 on a loss or 0 on a win.

At this level you are winning at twice the rate and with a little luck, you will recover the lost 36 units within 2 or 3 wins and can then drop back down to the 1st level of 1-1-2-2.

continue playing at the 1st level until you lose 4 in a row again then jump up to the 2nd level until you either recover previous losses or lose 4 more in a row.

If you do lose 4 more in a row, you go to the 3rd level of 3-3-6-6 or if you want to recover more quickly you can skip 3-3-6-6 and go to 4-4-8-8.  Play at this level until you either recover your lost units or lose 4 in a row.

Keep going up the bet line until you either reach a new high point or reach your stop loss.

This is only mildly less aggressive than the original progression.

Like I've said about other systems, if it wins with one progression, it should win with any, it just depends on how aggressive you want to play it.  And, how deep in the hole you are willing to go hoping to finally come out of the hole for a win.

That's how every progression works.  The further up the progression you're willing to go before deciding that you can't risk any more units (your personal stop loss) the more smaller wins you will have in relation to the really big loss that will come sooner or later.  Later we hope.

LOL,

George

[chrisbis]

Morning George, nice figures U have there.

There seems to be a consensus  building, exposed through live and RNG testing results,
that maybe chasing the second win, may not be the right move after all.

Maybe, just getting the first win is the way forward, as even that my require a good measure of the progressions mentioned in the last 10 or so postings.

I like the system tho, and I will continue my tests and prob some virtual play for the second win, since I have had a few second position wins in real cash play.

[ewarwoowar]

morning chris, another early bird!

i think there is mileage in this one.

some sessions, the wins just come along so easily, but just occasionally it feels like they're miles away.
i really think that the key here is to quit early in the progression, take the hit and increase the unit size in the next session as george has pointed out.
i'm going to test this way, still aiming for the two wins.

cheers.

[chrisbis]

MMM maybe. I'll have a look, just don't like playing for a zero return on level  4 progression (1st stage in George's numbers)

One thing I did y'd was to check the Outbreak occasionally, before I bet, by letting the next result after the 12 split trigger had passed- become a virtual bet.
If that looses, then I definitely bet on the 6 remaining (furthest) splits, but just for the one hit.

had good results too.

But later, playing for the second win, as per original scheme, I lost the small $50 bankroll chasing it.

$50 just doesn't cut the mustard as far as a BR for any system!! But it was free bucks, so....
Its more of a Real Fiction than Pulp...........

[ewarwoowar]

yes chris, i suppose it's each to their own.
personally, i think there's too much emphasis placed on winning on every progression, or session.
i know we play because we want to win and that's why we're all here, but just to keep alive in the game and in touch is often enough for me. as long as i can recoup later!!
i look on the last spin, as not to play for a zero return, but to recoup lost chips. how many times have you quit a session, still down, but in a much better position than you'd previously been in, happy to have your b/r still intact?
i know i have!
i'm sure the graph of a successful strategy (i'm sure they exist, the strategy not the graph!) doesn't go straight up, but experiences corrections along the way.