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The "Statistical Imbalance" fallacy

Started by falkor2k15, Feb 22, 10:58 AM 2020

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Steve

Ok so back onto your books. I asked for proof. Now you say they can't be used to figure out your system, although you contradicted yourself saying sime people did.

Is there any way i could know your system works by buying your books? You said i couldn't figure it out, but others have. Please clear the confusion.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

Kimo Li

Quote from: Steve on Feb 24, 02:32 AM 2020
Ok so back onto your books. I asked for proof. Now you say they can't be used to figure out your system, although you contradicted yourself saying sime people did.

There are three levels of concepts.

Level one can be deciphered simply by reading my books and reading posts from forums, not the HG, but profitable. Some level one graduates consider it the HG. But, they have not pursued lesson 2 or 3.

Level two graduates experience a different approach.
Level three graduates experience nirvana.

Steve

Right. So i can reach level 1 from your ebooks? Is there a clear guide in how to bet, or is it a riddle like the reviewers said?

Level 1 is profitable. So could i have 10 players using level 1 and they'd have combined profit, even with rng? Define profitable.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

Steve

Please address these:

Your sales material speaks of predicting the exact number. Theres only one winning number in traditional roulette. Spins are independent. So the only way multiple predictions could have an edge is if your system is based on sectors. But rng doesnt have sectors.

The mechanisms for different wheels and different rngs are all completely different. If you had two sequences even with the same prng, the outcomes would be completely different. Not just for the next spin, but all future spins.
"The only way to beat roulette is by increasing the accuracy of predictions"
Roulettephysics.com ← Professional roulette tips
Roulette-computers.com ← Hidden electronics that predicts the winning number
Roulettephysics.com/roulette-strategy ← Why most systems lose

Kimo Li

Quote from: Steve on Feb 24, 02:28 AM 2020
Your sales material speaks of predicting the exact number. Theres only one winning number in traditional roulette. Spins are independent. So the only way multiple predictions could have an edge is if your system is based on sectors. But rng doesnt have sectors.

Im seeing some pretty big questions in your logic. But let's see where it goes.

The mechanisms for different wheels and different rngs are all completely different. If you had two sequences even with the same prng, the outcomes would be completely different. Not just for the next spin, but all future spins.

Can you explain this?

It does not matter what group of numbers one decides to track. It does not have to relate to the position of the wheel. It can be totally random. What people fail to understand is we are tracking characteristics, red, black, high, low, odd, even, dominate, subordinate, among other propriety characteristics. The outcome results in high target values. It has nothing to do with the wheel.

On the other hand, it does apply to real wheels in a way that defies logic.

Steeefan2014

Sorry to interfere but I can't help it!

Kimo, with all do respect, it is well known that you approach is very well studied and you put a lot of work into it. Nobody can deny that and it should be appreciate it.

But still, Steve here has some good questions.

If you allow me an analogy, it will be like this:

So, you have the HG of winning at roulette - a game based on 37/38 numbers. Pay 36k+ for the hints of getting the HG.

Now the analogy:

Kimo, pay me 36k+ USD/EUR and you will have the best meal of your life for ever based on meat and vegetables.

To find out the secret of that meal, you have to read and understand the clues that I give you for those 36k. You want to taste it? Pay me 5k and I'll give you some clues on how to taste it. (As a free hint - it has meat).

Maybe I am over reacting, but still.... I'm sure you get the point.

Kimo Li

Quote from: Steve on Feb 24, 02:44 AM 2020
Right. So i can reach level 1 from your ebooks? Is there a clear guide in how to bet, or is it a riddle like the reviewers said?

Level 1 is profitable. So could i have 10 players using level 1 and they'd have combined profit, even with rng? Define profitable.

No, reading my books will give you the philosophy behind GPM. Some players have deciphered some of the strategies only because their perseverance to understand by reading posts. Readers who do not comprehend what the book is conveying will be disappointed. Those who understand, priceless.

Profit is a state of mind with each individual. 50 dollars a day is huge for some. 100, 200, 300, or more becomes relative to the expectations they create for themselves.     

Joe

Quote from: Kimo Li on Feb 24, 02:49 AM 2020It can be totally random. What people fail to understand is we are tracking characteristics, red, black, high, low, odd, even, dominate, subordinate, among other propriety characteristics. The outcome results in high target values. It has nothing to do with the wheel.

On the other hand, it does apply to real wheels in a way that defies logic.

Well I would certainly agree with your last statement, lol.

So outcomes can be totally random and yet by tracking spins we can predict with more accuracy than random what's going to come up next. And this is from a guy who agrees that spins are independent. Kimo, I think you need to check your comprehension of what 'independent' means.  ;)

I sincerely hope that nobody is buying into this tripe.
Logic. It's always in the way.

Kimo Li

Quote from: Steeefan2014 on Feb 24, 02:55 AM 2020
Sorry to interfere but I can't help it!

Kimo, with all do respect, it is well known that you approach is very well studied and you put a lot of work into it. Nobody can deny that and it should be appreciate it.

But still, Steve here has some good questions.

If you allow me an analogy, it will be like this:

So, you have the HG of winning at roulette - a game based on 37/38 numbers. Pay 36k+ for the hints of getting the HG.

Now the analogy:

Kimo, pay me 36k+ USD/EUR and you will have the best meal of your life for ever based on meat and vegetables.

To find out the secret of that meal, you have to read and understand the clues that I give you for those 36k. You want to taste it? Pay me 5k and I'll give you some clues on how to taste it. (As a free hint - it has meat).

Maybe I am over reacting, but still.... I'm sure you get the point.

It's all relative. Would you pay 36K, probably not?

Let me qualify that, would you pay 36K to make 480,000.00 per year?
Would you pay 5,000.00 for Almas Caviar, a cost of 34,000.00 per tin?

Joe

Quote from: Kimo Li on Feb 24, 02:39 AM 2020Level one can be deciphered simply by reading my books and reading posts from forums, not the HG, but profitable.

Well I for one would be satisfied with 'profitable'. If a system's profitable in the long-term then isn't that the holy grail? If you want more profit and have a profitable system, you just build up your bank and bet with higher and higher stakes. Careful Kimo, I think you're talking yourself out of a sale here!  ;D
Logic. It's always in the way.

Kimo Li

Quote from: Joe on Feb 24, 03:00 AM 2020
Well I would certainly agree with your last statement, lol.

So outcomes can be totally random and yet by tracking spins we can predict with more accuracy than random what's going to come up next. And this is from a guy who agrees that spins are independent. Kimo, I think you need to check your comprehension of what 'independent' means.  ;)

I sincerely hope that nobody is buying into this tripe.

Me too, I certain hope nobody is buying into this tripe. "For give them, for they know not what the do."

Kimo Li

Quote from: Joe on Feb 24, 03:04 AM 2020
Well I for one would be satisfied with 'profitable'. If a system's profitable in the long-term then isn't that the holy grail? If you want more profit and have a profitable system, you just build up your bank and bet with higher and higher stakes. Careful Kimo, I think you're talking yourself out of a sale here!  ;D

Let me make this perfectly clear, not looking for a sale.

Steeefan2014

Quote from: Kimo Li

Let me qualify that, would you pay 36K to make 480,000.00 per year?

/quote]

I would pay even for a lower amount, to be honest. But... I would need a proof before paying. And I'm sure that you agree with me.

Joe

Quote from: Kimo Li on Feb 24, 03:12 AM 2020not looking for a sale.

Right. That explains why you have a web site selling 10 different spreadsheets at $50 each, and another page with payment plan options including lesson #1 for which you ask $2000.  ::)

Kimo, can you tell us what you understand by the term 'independent', in regard to roulette outcomes?
Logic. It's always in the way.

Steeefan2014

Sorry for the alignment of the previous post... writting from the phone..

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