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Special Comment: VLS just isn't the same without this body of work from Professor Winkel Plein.  The GUT is worthy of debate and I hope the users of RouletteForum.cc find this as helpful as I have.  Cheers!   :thumbsup:    :thumbsup:


http://vlsroulette.com/winkel's-way/the-holy-grail-or-g-u-t-the-great-universal-theory/


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Funny, I was just thinking about this recently and wondering whether Winkel is still playing and winning with it. The trouble with that thread at VLS is it's so long, perhaps we could briefly summarise the rules of the system here for those who don't want to trawl through 80 pages.
"The trouble isn't what we don't know, it's what we think we know that just ain't so!" - Mark Twain

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Basically GUT revolves around one major bet.  Smaller bets are also availiable.

In a nutshell, (the major bet) you have unhit and hit once (or more) numbers.

Unhit  //   Hit
36             0    (when you start playing)

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As the numbers come in, the unhit numbers will decrease and the hit numbers will increase.
(You have to keep track of the unhit ones (which ones they are)

Unhit   //  Hit (example)

15            15
         or
16            15


Now, when the unhit numbers equal total hit numbers (preferably 18 numbers or less) it is time to bet all of the unhit numbers one time.
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<<<<Smaller bets>>>>>

Of the hit numbers, you can wager when once hit, twice hit or more equal each other...
(Example)

Once hit   //   Twice Hit
8                         8

You would bet the 8 once hit numbers (one time)
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Here is *Track 4* (to aid in tracking unhit/hit numbers)


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Thanks for bringing this back up Proof  :thumbsup:
 I played this for quite  a while back in the day and I still find it one of the most unusual bet selections I've seen.
TwocatSam was a great advocate of this too at one time if I remember rightly....yes I wonder if its still played.  ???

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....yes I wonder if its still played.  ???

Daily, with success
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This is one of the best systems ever made !
It have everything to work !

Unfortunatly I don't know how to play with it..
I know how to use the tracker, but I don't know when to place the bets. Only Winkel knows how to use it perfectly ;)

Best regards,
Afonso

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This is one of the best systems ever made !
It have everything to work !

Unfortunatly I don't know how to play with it..
I know how to use the tracker, but I don't know when to place the bets. Only Winkel knows how to use it perfectly ;)

Best regards,
Afonso

Hi Alfonso,

first it is a matter of training.
And the main hint is: Watch what is going on!

Use the tracker to find a crossing!
first step: just simply play this crossing.

after a while you will see, that there are spins that say: bet
and on the other hand you will see, that this constellation and ongoing is difficult.

If you are in a losing streak (two crossings in a row lost)
just jump. You will always find a crossing that wins.

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Thanks for replying me Winkel :)

Some months ago I was using your tracker a lot !
I had to read all the posts from the biggest thread ever made in a roulette forum and tried to resume it.

I had all saved in my pc, but unfortunatly I lost all the information I had when my pc broked =/

Now that I know you're still active in our forum, and here to help, I will go back to G.U.T again!
I will have to read it all and try to understand the way to play it, and what crossings should be played.
Maybe it isn't all that hard. But there is too much information in a single thread

Maybe in a week or so I will get all ready to test it properly :)

Best regards,
Afonso

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Your questions are always welcome.

What most people want is a simple way. But there is none simple way.

At least you have to use your experience and to learn to get a felling for : what is going on.

I always said: Test test and test again. Don´t start betting with money (perhaps you find a casino which offers a 1ct minimum like betvoyager)

If some more peoöple ask for further informations and all can tell that they are used to the tracker I will give the much more eyperiened informations.

I offered this at the old VLS-forum, but the disturbances were that offensive that I stopped there.

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@Winkel: Since I started the thread about GUT, I will make sure that there are no disturbances on the thread.  Any questionable comments will be removed.  By the way, welcome back and hope you are feeling well.


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I have a suggestion.  Before officially playing, find a particular wheel to play the system on and designate that one wheel for GUT.  Secondly, track the 18 numbers that hit the most on that wheel (it could take several hours).  Jot down these numbers so when it is time to bet, the more numbers you recognize as frequent hitting, the easier the decision will be to bet or not to bet.
 

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@Winkel: Since I started the thread about GUT, I will make sure that there are no disturbances on the thread.  Any questionable comments will be removed.  By the way, welcome back and hope you are feeling well.



Yes, welcome back, Winkel.

I'll gladly support Proofreaders2000 in dealing with disruptions and disturbances.

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Basically GUT revolves around one major bet.  Smaller bets are also availiable.

In a nutshell, (the major bet) you have unhit and hit once (or more) numbers.

Unhit  //   Hit
36             0    (when you start playing)

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
As the numbers come in, the unhit numbers will decrease and the hit numbers will increase.
(You have to keep track of the unhit ones (which ones they are)

Unhit   //  Hit (example)

15            15
         or
16            15


Now, when the unhit numbers equal total hit numbers (preferably 18 numbers or less) it is time to bet all of the unhit numbers one time.

Just to be clear. Is it that simple ? As I read on its implied (imo) its more complicated than that. Any clarification you can provide for our Members is muchly appreciated. Thank you    :)

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<<<<Smaller bets>>>>>

Of the hit numbers, you can wager when once hit, twice hit or more equal each other...
(Example)

Once hit   //   Twice Hit
8                         8

You would bet the 8 once hit numbers (one time)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is *Track 4* (to aid in tracking unhit/hit numbers)


Its Set In Stone =)

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"Just to be clear. Is it that simple ?"--TwisterUK

That's the system.  (As much as I know.)

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Thanx Proof, appreciate it  :)
Its Set In Stone =)


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