Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Joe]

Smoking kills a LOT more, but I don't see dark and gloomy media campaigns against it, to scare us all to death. Instead I see it is OPENLY LEGAL.

And what about heart disease, or cancer? Where's the trillions in funding to fight them?

This isn't about lives or health. At all.

Something is seriously wrong here.

The critical difference between those things and coronvirus is that deaths due to the latter are preventable by taking social distancing measures. You can't prevent people dying of smoking or cancer or heart disease, unless you have strict totalitarian control, and even in China smoking isn't banned. On the one hand you seem to be arguing for a stricter nanny state and on the other that it's some conspiracy to control us. You can't have it both ways.

[Steve]

The critical difference between those things and coronvirus is that deaths due to the latter are preventable by taking social distancing measures

Cancer is preventable by banning smoking, like less harmful marijuana is usually banned. I dont think smoking should be banned. You've completely missed the point.

[Joe]

You've completely missed the point.

You're comparing covid-19 with Cancer, heart disease etc by saying that 'nobody cares' that millions die of those diseases. But as I've just said, covid-19 is preventable whereas the others aren't.

So I'm not sure what your point is? other than suggesting it's a conspiracy.

[Joe]

Cancer is preventable by banning smoking

And you've completely missed my point. What else should be banned? eating unhealthy foods? alcohol? being a couch potato? all those things kill millions of people every year.

[Steve]

No joe, youre not understanding and i can't be bothered

[Joe]

Great, thanks Steve. 

You said this 'isn't about lives or health. At all'. So what is it about?

'They' are out to get us! 

Steve, you should really get out a bit more and stop watching youtube so much and doing online 'research'. Seriously, you'll be a happier and healthier person for it.

[Steve]

You dont know it yet, but you're clueless.

[Joe]

I'm quite happy being 'clueless' if being wised-up means being stressed and paranoid. I feel sorry for you Steve, really.

It's weird though, because you post all these provocative statements and then get all defensive and dismissive when challenged. It's like you really want it to be true.

[Steve]

Joe, i tried starting with something simple for you: banking law. And I provided documents from the Federal Reserve to prove it wasn't fairy theories. Its fact.

As you weren't smart enough for that, you won't understand anything more complex. That's why im not wasting further time explaining to you. That's why im dismissive. Go back to the very clear explanations, read the documents, stop taking it personally.

[Joe]

Steve, paranoid doesn't mean smart. I have an IQ of 148. You're not looking at the bigger picture. Likewise, I can't be bothered to explain it all to you. Good luck.

[Joe]

As you weren't smart enough for that, you won't understand anything more complex.

I'm not the only one reading your posts, so if I'm not smart enough, explain it anyway, that way people smarter than me can make sense of it and hopefully explain it to me in words of less than two syllables. 

And supposing your theories are true, what are we supposed to do about it? The more people who know about it and believe it, the more likely it is that it can be stopped, so not explaining it just makes it less likely that that will happen. Is that what you want? 

[Steve]

paranoid doesn't mean smart

That's a stupid comment.

I have an IQ of 148

I would question that number. Besides, im not particularly stupid. And intelligence is meaningless if you're ignorant.

So have you read my conspiracy theory document from the Federal Reserve yet? Nope, you think its conspiracy "theory" and paranoia.  Smart guy.

At least Im not going on and on about some reptillian god, who's secretly plotting to destroy mankind. I dont mean David Ike. Im talking about the pope, and like 2+ billion other people who believe that.

I'm not the only one reading your posts, so if I'm not smart enough, explain it anyway, that way people smarter than me can make sense of it and hopefully explain it to me in words of less than two syllables. 

Pay more attention and you'll see most people here already "get it", because they're more educated on these matters.

And supposing your theories are true, what are we supposed to do about it?

Well for starters, abolish the federal reserve. There's a lot we can do. But to get the support to do that, first people need to be educated, and woken up. The problem is some people are so blind, they still won't see it when its in their faces. And they'll call the people who explain it "conspiracy theorists" because they think they're so smart. You are a good example of that. And im not sure what to do about that kind of thing.

[Joe]

What does the federal reserve have to do with covid-19? You seem fixated on the banking system - all conspiracies seem to lead to it!

I read the article from the bank of Chicago which you uploaded.

[Joe]

And they'll call the people who explain it "conspiracy theorists" because they think they're so smart. You are a good example of that. And im not sure what to do about that kind of thing.

Well, you could provide some hard evidence and not just speculation, hindsight bias, and confirmation bias. That would help convince more people. The problem is you and other conspiracy theorists don't seem to be capable of telling them apart.

[Joe]

link:s://:.bankrate.com/banking/federal-reserve/federal-reserve-misconceptions/