Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[SWEET]

About the FED, printing money.
Its called QE
"quantitative easing",
simply mean create more money to cause inflation, or decreasing money value.
FED control how much banks could lent out loan, to market, based on loan from FED.
Only FED could create money out of nothing, by punching into accounts in computer, and physical paper money, back by military might and petrodollar. Thus
now you understand why most countries fear, and kowtow to usa, for protection!(and use usa dollar, as their reserved money! )
With every dollar,in hand, they "print",
their own currencies! (thus the more they print, the lower their value vis a vis dollar! thus hyperinflation...)
Fed's create inflation, so life-goes-on... thus who's losing? answer:cash hoarder..miser savers...
the value of dollar goes down, things become more expensive, but life goes on...people got less purchasing power, real estate value higher, and poor &middle class poorer....the corrections, paid by poor&middle class, thats why price of all goods and service and rental go higher, every year! this is indirect tax!

[SWEET]

why FED create inflation?
As indirect tax!
In other word, the poor&middle class and saver, must pay, for this "task of US"!
The lower rung must pay for this upkeep?
HOW?
And why the wealthy not affected??
Because the VALUE of real estate, food, services...everything become more expensive!
And who own all these real estate, factory, businesses, etc???
answer:the wealthy...the people that own and provider of supply economy ..
products &services that citizen buy and need in everyday lives.
Who feel the brunt?
Answer:the poor people, or people who cant create value of wealth ,fast enough to overcome inflation.
You understand now, why people say, the poor get poorer!
Now if you get "raise", every year, then you feel less brunt!
If you a trader, "you buy higher price, and resell at even higher price...", and trader play to gallery of inflation, (imagine how much the same burger sold ten years ago).
Why FED crrate inflation QE???
Because if DEFLATION kicks in...middle&wealthy people can repay loans and credit!
Price of real estates, and everything will stagnant or downhill, then they cant pay salary, and retrenchment, and no money, no buying,  businesses collapse, chaos ensued, and then vicious circle becomes larger..The only good vibes is lower price for everything, but who's buying, with empty pocket?
And the wealthy lose their property paper value, business profit diminish, but tax stay the same!
With inflation, poor people pay the price!
While wealthy people property and businesses
maintain, or rise in value,
paper value, inflation added value...Now you understand, why the skyscrapers value shoot up every year, to your chargrin?

[SWEET]

"poor people and inflation",
is like war, to a country.

The poor young military boys and men, lose their live or limbs, but the generals and the president or king, whom sent them to fight, to death, for their quarrel or ego, get the accolades, and praises!!!
FED print account money
or computer money, and lent out to banks, with very low interest,
so the banks could create more loan to the people, flooding the market with cash, thus the economic WHEEL, could turn, real estate and businesses value pointing higher, thus the future looks BRIGHT!
And most importantly,
THE USA...MILITARY might, around the world could functioning, threatening others...not to challenge USA power HEGEMONY!
Once usa lose petropower, she will lose military and psedo-economy hegemony, and soon collapse...
Now you understand why usa keep interfering in oil producing countries, and....CHINA!

[SWEET]

With petrodollar, that support usa military might that support petrodollar that support military...(goes in round)
The usa become sole super power!
And must remain so forever, or else, you american, are finished!
Now you understand why the military industrial R&D, keep making better and better
killing machines???
Poor&medium class, paid the INFLATION COST!
The wealthy property's value KEEP IN TANDEM with the inflation exponentialy!
Now you understand why all the rich boys properties , keep going up and OUT OF REACH???
Because you, the poor worker or medium class traders, keep paying for the inflationary cost!?
Not fair? Since when the world is fair, you need to choose, whether you want to be in the poor, medium, or wealthy class.
Price of everything , that made in the usa, will keep pointing higher, and ,YOU, must PAY, so that the economy wheel keep turning! and the wealthy
people value, keep up with the inflation RATES!

[winforus]

Steve,

In his interview, David Icke mentioned a lot of the things that you are saying - that we are headed to digital currency and they are using this as an opportunity to gain control. Although, he is saying that the Covid19 is a hoax - they are manipulating the numbers and people for example that would normally die from cancer, they say they died because of corona.

He states that the 5G basically takes out the oxygen out of the bodies - so there is a direct correlation between Corona and 5G.

BBC demanded for his talks to be removed, banned from Youtube, and any other type of videos that talks about the link of 5G and Corona.

I haven't made up my mind, weather what David Icke is saying is true or not, but his interview was really interesting and thought provoking imo, I would be interested to hear your opinion on it:

link:s://londonreal.tv/the-coronavirus-conspiracy-how-covid-19-will-seize-your-rights-destroy-our-economy-david-icke/

[winforus]

Also, NYC doctor lately been coming out with some of the stuff that Icke and others mentioned, that the way that they are using ventilators is dangerous, and the fact that they are not treating them for the right disease.

link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=k9GYTc53r2o

[Steve]

regarding the whole banking and wider conspiracy thing, I think you're paranoid

Is it paranoia to recite the banking policies and law?

You didn't even know what fractional reserve banking was. So you quickly read up on it, explained your understanding, were still wrong, and have the audacity to call me "paranoid"?

You said yourself banks aren't all innocent. Maybe you're being paranoid.

And this thread is about coronavirus so I would prefer to stay on topic.

You asked me how coronavirus may be related to banking. So I explained it.

There is no evidence that 5G can affect your immune system and a lot of studies have been done on this.

They've been done by people who don't even know what cancer is. And there is more to it than just cancer.

ANY incoherent radiation has the capacity to damage DNA. Even excessive sunlight causes cancer (skin cancer).

Here's what the researchers arent understanding:

1. They have proven irrefutably that significant doses of radiation cause cancer. Don't rely on Youtube or Google alone. When they do testing on human cells:

a. The dose is lower, and more consistent with normal use.

b. Does not take into account long-term effects to things they cant easily measure, like immune system reaction, mental acuity, energy levels and countless other things. At best, they could do some studies on these kinds of things, and put the results down to being inconclusive. Because there are so many other variables they cant easily account for. You cant imagine the countless other variables, and the difficulty of doing conclusive testing

There's no doubt radiation causes cancer, at higher doses. Does it mean it's safe?

There's no doubt drinking poison will harm you. We can all drink a little, with no obvious negative effects - in the short-term. But what about long-term damage?

There is no evidence that 5G can affect your immune system and a lot of studies have been done on this.

ANY incoherent radiation will undoubtedly negatively impact human health. It's more a question of what dosage is safe, for both short and long-term exposure. Joe, I've been an energy researcher almost all my life. I've come into information and research most people wouldn't have a clue about. I quit my Applied Physics course because it moved too slow, and just taught regurgitated information from text books. I knew I'd learn quicker on my own, which I have.

Some radio waves can have a heating effect which may affect the immune system, but the energy levels from 5G waves are tiny, they're just not powerful enough to damage cells.

Spoken like a person who believes everything they read, without understanding.

"Heat" is usually a byproduct, because of inefficiency, or disharmony. In this case, the heating you're referring to occurs ultimately because the radiation is incoherent. An analogy is like "the friction between the crashing waves causes heat". It's not exactly what happens, but it's just an analogy.

Inefficient energy production systems tend to heat up. That energy is lost as heat. The more efficient an energy production system, the cooler it runs. There are some devices that even fall below room temperature when in operation, like the Searl Effect Generator. This was partially replicated by a few groups, to at least observe this effect. That's getting off track though. My point is heat is linked to incoherence and disharmony.

Incoherent radiation wont heat anything by any measurable about, if the dose is small. It's like a tiny LED vs a high powered searchlight. They may be the same wavelengths, but wavelength isn't everything.

Have a look at how harmless radiation pops corn:

link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=pqIZDIxJgXw

It doesn't happen with just one phone because if there's only one radiation source, the waves are less likely to "crash". It will still happen with one radiation source, if it's intense enough.

Again my ex-girlfriend often used her mobile phone, and had cancer removed from inside her ear. It was not a coincidence. The so-called testing your'e referring do is not done properly, or with proper consideration to critical variables - because the researchers aren't properly understanding.

I'm not saying I know everything. But I know more than most people with a master's degree in physics. That's because they all learned from the same books I've read. What they miss is extended research, which you don't find in college text books. The physics and anomalies that invalidate some long-held theories from text books.

More specifically, a biologist will study living cells etc. A mathematician studies equations. A physicist studies practical applications of math and theory. What I do is work on models that account for all science. That includes biological, sound, physics, metaphysical, solar, gravity, mathematical and more - everything together. And that's what modern scientists should do, but they dont. They only look at their own narrow teachings. It's like how string theory accounts for everything. It's close, but not quite correct as I see it. Those strings are just vibrations everywhere. All "physical form" comes from harmonic vibrations.

The radio wave band, which is used for mobile phone networks, is non-ionising, meaning that it doesn't have enough energy to break apart DNA and cause cellular damage.

Again spoken like someone who is educated by CNN.

5G is higher frequency and higher energy. But already at lower bands, damage is being done. At higher doses of radiation, the damage is obvious and clear. Nobody doubts that. The testing you refer to is at lower doses, where the damage is more subtle. Read above what I said about the testing. It's as simplistic and limited as a gambler winning 100 spins of betting on red, and concluding betting red is how to win.

The cancer research institutes dont even properly understand it.

Have a good look at this to, and even that's only a fraction of the story:
link:s://:.landsharing.org/alternative-suppressed-breakthrough-cancer-treatments/

Look for any reputable and reliable scientific source (not some youtuber in his mum's basement, lol) and they will tell you the same thing.

Ironic you'd say this, considering Youtube is where you clearly get your information.

Google and Youtube are nearing Chinese level censorship. They are promoting fake news, under the guise of protecting people from fake news. I believe this is mostly because the youtube and google staff are themselves clueless. But it's also because some conspiracy theorists include incorrect, harmful and unsubstantiated theories. So they are censoring the good with the bad (from conspiracy theorists), but leaving all the garbage from so-called "credible sources" like CNN. I've lost track of the amount of rubbish and blatant lies "official" mainstream media has published. The media regurgitate crap, and report whatever they're told to report. There is very little proper investigative journalism, where the media properly research to ascertain the facts for themselves. But mainstream media just report. They don't have the capacity to determine fact from fiction.

In spite of the clear evidence against it, idiots like David Icke continue spread the conspiracy, and youtube announced yesterday that they will be removing all videos which link 5G to the virus. Whatsapp have also added restrictions.

David has probably done more harm than good. He has some correct theories, and some are just best left unsaid. Ironically, I believe he's right about many of the apparently wacky theories, like the existence of the reptilian race, and bloodlines of certain families. Is it really so difficult to believe we arent the only species in the universe, and that some of them have no problem with using us to their advantage? We do it to animals. We're no different. Or is it more believable that we're the only ones in the entire universe, and even if we weren't alone, all races would come rushing to love us with flowers and gifts?

Where David loses me is saying crap like the Queen is a shapeshifting alien who eats babies. Is it true? I seriously doubt it. The only "proof" of it is the accounts of a few people. Not nearly good enough proof. But as for the existence of alien races, there's ample proof.

Now back to Coronavirus. I've said what I think will happen. Wherever it came from, we don't know for sure yet. At the very least, this whole crisis IS already being used to push nefarious agendas. This includes the global financial system, digital currencies etc. It's being used as an excuse to push in the "New World Order". I'm not wrong. It's already happening. And most people will initially buy into it, thinking it's all for our benefit. It will all sound like a great idea initially.

You think its conspiracy "theory", because you dont have enough information. You rely on CNN and censored sources like google and youtube. You think it's paranoia, but are so asleep that even when official banking policy is in your face, you dismiss it as mere bad policy. Dig deeper to understand its conspiracy.

And many people will be clueless to what's really going on. They'll confuse paranoia with law and banking policy. They'll confuse conspiracy with "incompetence and bad policy".

Joe, it's really on your doorstep. But unfortunately you're clearly still asleep - like billions of others, who haven't progressed to the stage where they see through all the bullshit. There's nothing else I could say to wake you up. You really do need to see it for yourself.

[Steve]

About the FED, printing money.
Its called QE
"quantitative easing",
simply mean create more money to cause inflation, or decreasing money value.
FED control how much banks could lent out loan, to market, based on loan from FED.
Only FED could create money out of nothing, by punching into accounts in computer, and physical paper money, back by military might and petrodollar. Thus
now you understand why most countries fear, and kowtow to usa, for protection!(and use usa dollar, as their reserved money! )
With every dollar,in hand, they "print",
their own currencies! (thus the more they print, the lower their value vis a vis dollar! thus hyperinflation...)
Fed's create inflation, so life-goes-on... thus who's losing? answer:cash hoarder..miser savers...
the value of dollar goes down, things become more expensive, but life goes on...people got less purchasing power, real estate value higher, and poor &middle class poorer....the corrections, paid by poor&middle class, thats why price of all goods and service and rental go higher, every year! this is indirect tax!

An increasing amount of people are understanding it. But for many people, they dont see what happened until after it really hits home. Until then, it's just "paranoia" to them.

WINFORUS, it may be true about radiation reducing oxygen in blood. I say "may" be true. The radiation affects the underlying energy of cells and living organisms. It's not so much the formed cells they harm.

One way of looking at is imagine if a wind swirl formed a circle in the sand on a beach. The wind is the underlying energy of your body, and the circle is the cell. Now imagine if some choppy gust of wind came from nowhere, and disrupted the harmonic wind spiral. The result is the cicle of sand will be malformed. And that's what a cancerous cell is. In this case, the wind spiral is DNA. The circle of sand is a cell.

One of the problems with cancer research is they aren't on living "growing" cells. They are on pre-existing cells. That's why they easily replicated cancerous growths in living lab rats. Again the people doing the research dont even understand it.

[SWEET]

Fiat money, military might, forced inflation...worked hand in hand.

Let me tell you a kiddie story so you understand.
One upun a time,
There an island, with only hundreds of poor population.
I am the most powerful man.
How become the most powerful, because I manage to ORGANIZE a team of brutal personnel, and armed them with weapons such as sword,axes, machetes, etc...(read: military)
Thus the peasants respect and kowtow to me, because, though I am brutal, I give them SECURITY.
But I need to feed my team, and I cant order my men to tend farm and go fishing...but I cant force the peasant to send food, and get nothing in return, except sense of security,
thus I take out a piece of paper, and write down how many chicken or fish the sent me, a PROMISE to return what I OWE them...
Then writing on paper become messy and cumbersome, why not standardize the paper, and marked 1,2, 10, 100..
so 1 stand for 1 fish, 2 stand for a chicken, 100 for a cow?
All the peasants, not stupid, they know the 'IOU', just a PROMISE NOTE, and I will not repay or return the fish,chicken, cow
that I took from them, but they keep QUIET, because I provide them SECURITY, they feel safe, with the presence of my team with weapon...

and if they dare asking about my PROMISE IOU,
my team will beat and burn their house and chase them away!
Now, all the peasant has so many PROMISSORY note, IOU in hand, and cant ask for the return of fish, chicken ,cow...(but in lieu of SECURITY.)
What to do with all those paper of VALUE???
All the paper has value of commodity consumed by the power of might, brutal might, security services...
Since paper hold value, why not exchange with neighbors!
My fish, change with one paper, chicken for 2 paper, 100 for a cow...Wow! start of paper fiat money, back by my brutal force!
Then few intelligent persons, start to realise that just "shuffling" the papers, accumulate the paper, could make a living, no need to tend the farm, or fishing! Very comfortable! And start to LENDING out the paper, for more paper.(Banking!)
They are greedy, there too little paper around, as they need more paper in circulation, to make more paper!

[Steve]

That's the basics of it, just on a different scale.

Throughout our history, the people at the top control the masses. What's different today?

The main thing different today is it's more covert. Because if people know they're being controlled, they'll fight the system.

[SWEET]

Then those intelligent people come to see me,
and make a new idea , a proposal to establish a powerful body to manage the paper!(FED!) Thus controlling the island wealth!
Soon I announce the establishment of banking...
I become powerfull, and they become greedy,
they print more and more paper to exchange than the peasant could produce! The peasant start to hold too many paper, and sense that too many paper flying around them.
I start to enlarge my brutal team, get more weapon, build more ship and start threatening neighboring islands to accept my iou paper!(gunship diplomacy).
Any refusing island will be invaded!(sole world power!)
To pay for my ever expanding team& expenditure, I order my FED to print more paper, and caused the paper to circulate all over the world, refusing island will taught a lesson, change the island leader, assaination, support the rebellion, or invade them.
Now more and more paper being printed, and it cost money to produce paper to print, the intelligent people(banker!), has new idea, "ahhh...no need to print paper, just use a pen, and note on CREDIT/DEBIT .ACCOUNT?(electronic computer account)
Now the banker create too many paper, the peasants start to feel too many paper chasing too little produce, and start to demand more paper for same product!(inflationary  brunt).
What me, and the banker do to overcome this problem?
We PRINT MORE PAPER!!!(QE!)
Suddenly, Need 2 paper(instead of 1paper) for a fish , 200 for a cow!
And the poor stupid peasant, that keep holding on the papers, keep wondering they are still poor, and why price of everything keep going up, and the cant catch up, and still poor despite working their butt off all these year!
And all the banker still LAUGHING OUT LOUD, keep printing paper in their bank, back by my military support!

[Steve]

Also, NYC doctor lately been coming out with some of the stuff that Icke and others mentioned, that the way that they are using ventilators is dangerous, and the fact that they are not treating them for the right disease.

link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?v=k9GYTc53r2o

Yes I saw this before. Interesting, but so far he seems to have been ignored.

Also I'm watching the banned video from David Icke. everyone can see it here:

link:s://banned.video/watch?id=5e8e28ed1f333e003a33793b

If David said it weakens the immune system, I'd agree. But so far at the start, he flat said covid-19 doesn't exist. I don't believe that at all. Here I think he's mixing rubbish with truth. I'll watch the whole interview and give my opinion.

But there's something else everyone here needs to know. Forget David Icke for a minute.

I have software that sees in bulk what Google and Youtube is censoring. I've had a good look at a lot of the web pages and videos that were censored. And I'm saying unequivocally there is mass censorship going on, under the guise of fake news. Mostly it looks like an automated algorithm that removes content with combinations of keywords.

But what I find peculiar is the ACCURATE material is largely affected, but a lot of the nutty and wild conspiracy theory pages are UNAFFECTED. This suggests to be is there's a direct effort to censor the truth. I'm talking about Google and Youtube. WHY?

You know something has been censored when it is completely removed from Google, but visible on other search engines like :.duckduckgo.com - and the content itself still exists.

I believe part of the censorship is addressing genuinely harmful and inaccurate conspiracy theories. Part of it is an automated algorithm. And part of it is selective allowing or censoring of specific pages.

I knew this was going on for some time. But the censorship has been ramped up.

This is real and going on. It's only part of it. I don't give a f*ck if you think I'm a "conspiracy theorist". We are all under attack, and people who cant see through the bullshit, and distinguish between unsubstantiated theories, and what is real, better wake up quickly. Start with what you see right in front of you. Do extensive research. Dont rely on Google or Youtube because they're literally censoring about half of the important material. Some has been completely removed, and others are hit with obvious penalties and rank far lower, like with Googles Panda algorithm.

[Steve]

I'm about half way through the video. A lot of what he says is true, and a lot of what he says NEEDS VERIFICATION. So anyone researching for themselves will need to carefully check facts. He says a LOT of things that ordinary people would have no idea about, so it would be easy to dismiss what he says as bullshit.

I'm fair to any theory, and like to do proper research before giving a solid opinion. I even seriously looked at flat Earth before, only to find it was trash, and Flat Earthers really had no clue.

So i'll look into David's main argument, which is Covid-19 doesn't even exist. I'm skeptical. But I'll do some research first.

I had a look at some maps:

WORLD POPULATION BY COUNTRY
link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=26832.0;attach=43186;image



COVID-19 INFECTIONS BY COUNTRY



5G ACCESS VIA COUNTRY




CONSIDERATIONS

* We would expect places with higher populations will have better technology, AND higher covid19 infection rates. So the maps would naturally have similar areas.

* But if what David says is true, there would be a stronger correlation between the BOTTOM two maps (5g Access vs COVID-19 cases). Have a look and see what you think. It looks to be there is a higher correlation between the bottom two maps.

* The blue areas in the 5G map are planned 5G areas. we'd need to see how many of these areas actually have 5G.

* There are tonnes of other considerations, like what about infections on cruise ships?

This whole thing is a puzzle and would probably take weeks of research to determine whether of not David has a case. Again he's wrong about some things, and right about some things. Nobody is going to be 100% right.

Initially looking at these, I'd say the data SUPPORTS David's claims. But again there is far more to consider. There seems to be an inordinate amount of countries with HIGH POPULATION, BUT NO 5G, AND NO OR FEW COVID CASES

[thelaw]

Not only does Cameron appear to be correct, the changes are already being implemented:

link:s://apnews.com/8ccd325c2be9bf454c2128dcb7bd616d

Also, this morning I spoke to a nurse in my family, and she confirmed that docs are now only using ventilators in her hospital as a last resort, because they noticed an unusually sharp increase in mortality after putting a patient on a vent.

Also, here is an extended interview with him from the 6th:

link:s://:.medscape.com/viewarticle/928156

as well as an overview of the possible mechanism:

link:s://:.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3116&v=uPTiP714LZM&feature=emb_logo

[amk]

Remember?

The 2017â€"2018 flu season was severe for all US populations and resulted in an estimated 959,000 hospitalizations and 61,099 deaths. This is the highest number of patient claims since the 2009 flu season. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, during the 2017-2018 season the percentage of deaths attributed to pneumonia and influenza (P&I) was at or above the epidemic threshold for 16 consecutive weeks. Nationally, mortality attributed to P&I exceeded 10.0% for four consecutive weeks, peaking at 10.8% during the week ending January 20, 2018.[10] Another estimate (September 2018) attributed more than 80,000 US deaths to this strain of influenza.[11][12]