Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Joe]

It's only paranoia if it's not real. You're confusing reality with unsubstantiated theories.

Paranoia is the irrational and persistent feeling that people are 'out to get you'. I think that's a reasonable characterization of those who believe in multiple conspiracy theories. 

Where did I say there was? You're avoiding this point.

Here :

And it is entirely possible it may be a man-made disease, not so much to kill lots of people, but more for financial reasons.

Why is it 'entirely possible' that it may be man-made? Where is the smoking gun? All the scientific evidence for the origin of the virus points to animals, not humans.

You also said :

Their aim is total control

But didn't reply to my question asking who 'they' are.

Ignorantly categorizing substantiated conspiracy fact as "quackery" is much more dangerous.

It seems you didn't actually read the article I linked to.
link:s://time.com/5541411/conspiracy-theories-domestic-terrorism/

If someone had told me a few years ago that the most influential conspiracy theorist would be the president of the USA, I wouldn't have believed them. Just a few days ago he said that the corona virus was a democrat hoax. Now of course he's back-pedaled heavily because he realizes it hasn't gone down well, and he wants to get a second term.

Hit me with your perception of what is the biggest challenge. It might just be a conspiracy theory.

Have a guess, I'll tell you when you're getting warmer.

Your'e generalizing from ignorance.

No, this is topic which has been studied by psychologists. Those who believe conspiracy theories tend to have those characteristics. I thought you believed in science?

Ultimately, Joe, it looks like you're more looking for an argument, rather than a discussion about reality.

I'm not looking for an argument especially, I'm more looking for answers.

[Joe]

Point IS-- "There is no political solution to the human contidition", eventhough maybe David icke is correct about his statement that we are getting a more "totalitarian government now" and so on.. STILL *there is no political solution to the human problem/condition* so? "Freedom" is more about each idividuals choise , and its more about "spiritual freedom/work" (which has abolutley Nothing to do with "politics")... that is my opinion

With that I agree. Icke is the worst of the worst when it comes to conspiracy theories. A complete nutter.

[Joe]

France and Italy are closing their casinos, and many in LV are doing the same. Well at least we still have online.  General, looks like you might be out of a job for a while, and I guess it's not good news for you either Steve.

link:s://:.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/15/casinos-coronavirus-closures-jobs/

[Roulettebeater]

thats a quite good news

[Steve]

Paranoia is the irrational and persistent feeling that people are 'out to get you'. I think that's a reasonable characterization of those who believe in multiple conspiracy theories. 

You arent listening. The banking system isn't a conspiracy, right? You're being very shortsighted. Understanding of reality is not paranoia.

Why is it 'entirely possible' that it may be man-made? Where is the smoking gun? All the scientific evidence for the origin of the virus points to animals, not humans.

Isn't it possible? Why not? Where's your smoking gun? And yes the virus origins is disputed, and has anomalies, some of which are explained in the link you didn't read. The jury is still out, why is why i havent said its certain. You're acting like i have.

Besides false flags are not a new thing. Youd be naive to think groups dont have the will and ability to do it.

But didn't reply to my question asking who 'they' are.

There's not just one group. There are many. Mostly they are wealthy elite looking to expand and preserve their power.

It seems you didn't actually read the article I linked to.
link:s://time.com/5541411/conspiracy-theories-domestic-terrorism/

I did, and it's biased, shortsighted garbage as if real conspiracies dont exist. Its like saying flat earth is bullshit, so is every other conspiracy theory.

If someone had told me a few years ago that the most influential conspiracy theorist would be the president of the USA, I wouldn't have believed them.

You think its the first tine a us president was full of shit? Do you believe bush really thought saddam had nukes, or ties to osama? Isn't it strange osama, the world's most wanted terrorist at the time, had ties to bush instead? It's not even scratching the surface but you're uneducated about the whole area and i dont have time to assist you.

Have a guess, I'll tell you when you're getting warmer.

I believe it's real, but overstated and exploited. I dont think its quite the biggest problem. There is evidence of natural cycles. There's loads of bs about it, like the hottest day in history, bushfiresetc like its all gkobal warning. Look back further than our short history. Or should that be ignored?

No, this is topic which has been studied by psychologists. Those who believe conspiracy theories tend to have those characteristics. I thought you believed in science?

Oh i see. So the banking conspiracy isnt real after all. Thanks to them clever shrinks and their research. I feel better.

I guess it's not good news for you either Steve.

Not really. Firstly they'll reopen eventually. Secondly i have other income sources amd greater than roulette.

[Steve]

You really need to do better research joe, and distinguish between conspiracy nonsense and reality. Im not going to waste time explaining it all to you, like im not going to explain to every player why repeaters dont work.

[Mortagon]

BAD MATH ALERT: No, the seasonal flu doesn’t have a 10% fatality rate… it’s actually less than 0.1%… here’s the math
link:s://:.naturalnews.com/2020-03-16-bad-math-alert-no-the-seasonal-flu-doesnt-have-a-fatality-rate-coronavirus.html

[Joe]

The banking system isn't a conspiracy, right?

Straw man.

Isn't it possible? Why not? Where's your smoking gun?

I'm not the one with the conspiracy theory, so don't try to shift the burden of proof.

I did, and it's biased, shortsighted garbage as if real conspiracies dont exist.

You completely missed the point of the article. And I can't be bothered to explain it to you.

You think its the first tine a us president was full of shit?

Straw man.

Oh i see. So the banking conspiracy isnt real after all.

Straw man.

You really need to do better research joe

Yes, better 'research'. Meaning you look for websites which support your prejudices and paranoia. Easily done because whatever batshit crazy ideas you have you'll find some support for it somewhere. And the 'mainstream' sites are of course skipped because the 'establishment' is the problem in the first place. So the more you search the more convinced you are that your conspiracy theory bullshit is the truth. Do you see how it's all self-fulfilling and feeds on itself?

And before you attack another straw man, I'm not saying there aren't real conspiracies, but they are far fewer than people imagine.

A common and flawed way of thinking goes like this:

Event X has consequence Y, therefore Y is the cause of X. (fallacy)

For instance, here's a conspiracy theory I just made up : the coronavirus (X) is going to cause many elderly people to die (Y). Elderly people draw state pensions, therefore the government created the virus so that they don't have to pay pensions.

It's really easy to come up with any number of similar conspiracy theories. Then you start searching for evidence. Because we are so good at finding patterns, and there is so much garbage online, you will always find some 'evidence' for your conspiracy BS.

Ironically, the conspiracy theory addicts like to think of themselves as open-minded, but they are far from it because they are blind to evidence against their theories. The easiest person to fool is yourself.

So do yourself a favor Steve and try to educate yourself on these matters, and become a better critical thinker.

[Bigbroben]

Ok,
my turn to go down the Woohoo land, see attached.

This should prompt some headwind...

[The General]

Ok,
my turn to go down the Woohoo land, see attached.

This should prompt some headwind...

Bigroben,

What does your cryptic post mean?

Why is it 'entirely possible' that it may be man-made? Where is the smoking gun? All the scientific evidence for the origin of the virus points to animals, not humans.

Several experts are now saying that they can tell, after viewing the virus directly, that it's the merger of two strains and that it's not man made.   

[The General]

France and Italy are closing their casinos, and many in LV are doing the same. Well at least we still have online.  General, looks like you might be out of a job for a while, and I guess it's not good news for you either Steve.

link:s://:.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/03/15/casinos-coronavirus-closures-jobs/

Meh, it's just a short term vacation from work.  Right now I'm buying up future flights at some great prices. 

By the way, Las Vegas sucks these days anyway.   The actuaries ruined it.  The odds are terrible, the resort fees and paid parking demonstrate just how anal the casinos have become.  There are better places to gamble in the country and abroad.

[Steve]

Joe, you're utterly clueless. Good luck.

[Bigbroben]

Bigroben,
What does your cryptic post mean?

Oh, was throwing it in there.  Google the key words and think what you will after.  No pressure.

[The General]

Oh, was throwing it in there.  Google the key words and think what you will after.  No pressure.

I believe the virus was another byproduct of communism.   Starving citizens willing to eat anything become infected with the virus.

[Steve]

Whatever the case, clearly the whole situation has shown how pitifully fragile the system is, and how dependant we are. Its just a virus.