Random Dozens with LaBouchere

[SWEET]

Don’t fall in the trap !

Keep your winnings very low and when the storm happens, you will be hit very hard !

What’s the sense if you max win 5 dollars per day and one day within 30 days you lose 1000

Hello Sir,
With all due respect.
We already know that YEARS ago, it already a "stale news!",
since first casino open shop.
Thats why, we doing research to avoid that...
We appreciate your concern, and worries,
Thanks for your reminder.
We had researched many-many systems &theories, to understand, why they fail, to understand it weaknesses, and most important, not to repeat their mistakes.
Thanks again.

[Bigbroben]

Coded the Labouchere Double-Dozen  on Excel the way Huskerdu explained.
Did not spend any time on bet selection, but anyway.

Coded.

[RP501]

I think, we, (or rather, you, )
are up to something!
a hg, that win more than losses.

Just out of curiosity, IF someone really found the "Holy Grail" of beating Roulette long term  -- WHY in the world would someone "reveal" that priceless discovery???  I'd keep it a well-guarded SECRET, unless I don't plan to even use it, and just sell it for $100,000 and make the money that route.   

IMHO, Playing Roulette is compared to -- like you driving a car.  If you drive carefully by following safe driving tactics, drive defensively, and avoid hazardous conditions -- You will less likely be involve in an accident, be injured or killed. Of course it's never guaranteed, because it's practically impossible to avoid another driver's error.  According to Google, there's a 1 in 103 chance of dying in a car crash.  So, are you never ever going to drive or ride in a vehicle???  I don't think so!

My point is -- If you come up with a Roulette System that can survive a minimum 50,000 spins, you just may have something. If it survives another 50,000 spins, then you're really up to something. But here's the thing -- even if it survives another 100,000 or 500,000 or even 1,000,000 spins, etc., that does NOT mean it's a guarantee that your System will NEVER fail!  WHY?  Because Roulette is still "random", which means ANYTHING can still happen!

BUT, just like driving a car -- you can still play Roulette with some degree of success, but only IF you play SMART -- Always TEST your System with at least 50,000 spins, preferably 100,000 or more.  Heck, maybe you can have the LUCK of those who have driven their entire LIFE, and have NEVER been in a car accident!

Just always remember -- #1 Rule Of Thumb:  NEVER bet money you cannot afford to lose!!!   

[Richard Meisel]

SWEET
I tested
You have about 2/3 wins and1/3 loses (it is logical in the long term because you bet 2/3).
So if flat betting you are in the same
The advantage is that you earn in case of a long string with the same dozen
You lose many bets in a row , in case of a string 321321... or 213213... or 132132....

I want to show you something:
Lets say that a string 321321 comes
You lose at any case 6 bets in a row with your bet selection.
Let's say that instead, your bet selection was just play 321321 not to come:
You will not lose in any case but in 1/3 of the cases if a streak 321321 comes, because the string 321321 must come in exactly the same time as I bet.
case 1:
betting      string that comes
1-2                         3
3-1                         2
2-3                         1
1-2                          3
3-1                         2
2-3                          1

In this situation we lose 6 loses in a row

case 2:
betting      string that comes
2-3                         3
1-2                         2
3-1                         1
2-3                         3
1-2                          2
3-1                         1
2-3                          ...

In this situation even though a astring 321321 appears we have 6 wins in a row
case 1:
betting      string that comes
3-1                         3
2-3                         2
1-2                         1
3-1                          3
2-3                         2
1-2                         1
We also have 6 wins in a row.

So with your selection you always have 6 loses in a row in case of a string 321321 appears, but if you bet 321321 not to come you have in 1/3 of cases 6 loses in a row and in 2/3 of case 6 wins in a row.
That's why I prefer random selection
Thanks

[Richard Meisel]

Hey Husk, wouldn't there be less Losing Strings betting on the 2 Dozens that didn't hit and the next Bet on the Dozen that did hit and any other Dozen. Then keep that alternating betting.

[RP501]

wouldn't there be less Losing Strings betting on the 2 Dozens that didn't hit and the next Bet on the Dozen that did hit and any other Dozen. Then keep that alternating betting.

You would think so, BUT then there will be periods where it will "whip-saw", just like when R,B,R,B,R,B,R... happens. So it can become a "catch-22".   

[Richard Meisel]

Hi RP, can you give me some mathematical odds on when that "whip-saw" happens? By the way I wrote a jazz tune called "Catch 22". 22/4 time: 3 bars of 5/4 and 1 bar of 7/4. Nice Melody.

[RP501]

Hi RP, can you give me some mathematical odds on when that "whip-saw" happens? By the way I wrote a jazz tune called "Catch 22". 22/4 time: 3 bars of 5/4 and 1 bar of 7/4. Nice Melody.

Hey RM.  Cool, let's hear it on YouTube. 

Can't really give you the odds of how often it will happen, but my guess is that it happens as often (or not so often) and as random, as when a string of R,B,R,B,R,B... happens. Because there will be periods when that pattern won't happen much, instead you will see R,R,B,B,R,R,B,B or R,R,R,B,B,B,R,R,R, or long strings of R,R,R,R,R... & B,B,B,B,B... .  That's Roulette "randomness" for you.   

So, with the Double Dozen bet selection, since your winning percentage is 64.8% (single zero) as oppose to 48.6 with EC -- the whip-saw strings won't last as long like the EC would (I once saw R,B,R,B,R,B... go 17 spins in-a-row!). But then again ergo another Catch-22 -- your bet odds with Double Dozen is 1-2 at .50% win, rather than EC's 1-1 100% win. 

Back to your "idea" of switching your Double Dozen selection.  It's a good one, BUT then again, since Roulette is "random" -- there will be periods where your idea seems to be working when switching. Then there will be periods when it would've been better if you didn't switch.

So, it's pretty much like a "pick your poison" dilemma.    I think it's boils down to a matter of preference.  Play both versions of the Method, long enough so that you will begin to get a "feeling" (instincts) of how both ways plays.  Then just choose the one that feels better for you.

You can practice and test here:

link:s://roulette-simulator.info/en

Or if you have "time to burn", here.  (My opinion is RNG & Live wheel is pretty much the same, long term)

link:s://:.liveroulette.ie

Have FUN!   

[huskerdu]

Playing with 2 dozens, sooner or later there will be any kind of a long string like:
2 alternative dozens: 1-2-1-2-1-2-1-2 or 1-3-1-3-1-3-1-3 or 2-3-2-3-2-3-2-3
3 alternative dozens: 1-2-3-1-2-3-1-2-3
same dozen: : 1-1-1-1-1-1-1 or 2-2-2-2-2-2 or 3-3-3-3-3-3

So, whatever kind of betting we chose sooner or later we will fall to such strings. And if they are long, it will be too dificult to recover.
That's why I play random.
Or another way is to swich the kind of selection every 3 bettings.

[RP501]

So, whatever kind of betting we chose sooner or later we will fall to such strings. And if they are long, it will be too dificult to recover.
That's why I play random.
Or another way is to swich the kind of selection every 3 bettings.

So in essence, MEISEL's idea on switching IS in itself "random". Because when switching, it's following the randomness of where the Dozens are hitting, as it happens.  But then again, it's a matter of perspective, isn't it?