Roulette has no memory but statistics have different opinion!

[gizmotron2]

So what is the significant value of this practice game? Has there been any complaints that it is not real?

[precogmiles]

So what is the significant value of this practice game? Has there been any complaints that it is not real?

Only those who lose complain it is not real.

[gizmotron2]

Why does someone else tell me to use ready. Do I slow everyone down?

[Taotie]

Yes you are slowing them down. Many players get their bets down very fast then click the ready button to speed the game up. Other players race through many spins to find a trigger or fill a tracker or what ever so they also click the ready button to speed things up.

When I play sometimes my game is fast and sometimes it's slow. If I'm playing slow I don't mind the full 30 seconds but if I'm playing fast I use the ready button.

It should be simple for everyone, if you log on and there is no one playing then you can use the whole 30 seconds and tell anyone who logs in afterwards to f*ck off when they complain, cause you were there first. But if you log on and other players are there using the ready button then you should also use the ready button or f*ck off yourself.

I ask but don't demand of people already logged on if they could use the ready button. But if I'm already logged on and you show up and start taking the whole 30 seconds I will give you a serve for being rude and inconsiderate, or I'll just put up with it for a little while then leave, depends at what stage my session is.
It's the players who show up and slow the game down then ignore any requests to use ready or answer any question who are most upsetting for other current players. They are often suspected as being bots, which are not tolerated on MPR.

You see it often, a player logs on, refuses to communicate, never clicks ready and after 100 spins you check there position on the leaderboard and they haven't placed a single bet.

Where's Bombus when you need him!

[gizmotron2]

Good, and thanks. I like the fuc* off button. I'll try.

[gizmotron2]

I went in again and made another $1,000. Nobody was there and I used the ready button anyway. I'm in the top 250 already. This doesn't mean anything, does it?

[Steve]

I went in again and made another $1,000. Nobody was there and I used the ready button anyway. I'm in the top 250 already. This doesn't mean anything, does it?

Nope. In fact NONE of the results from individual players means anything, because none are statistically significant yet.

What is statistically significant is the OVERALL result from all players combined. And that's perfectly in line with the house edge.

Unless you're an AP or consistent winner, the casino doesn't give a shit who wins or loses. They only care they are getting the expected amount. If there's a discrepancy, or individual threat, they'll deal with it.

Other than that, and regulatory compliance, it's just maximizing revenue from floor space.

[gizmotron2]

Nope. In fact NONE of the results from individual players means anything, because none are statistically significant yet.

What is statistically significant is the OVERALL result from all players combined. And that's perfectly in line with the house edge.

Unless you're an AP or consistent winner, the casino doesn't give a shit who wins or loses. They only care they are getting the expected amount. If there's a discrepancy, or individual threat, they'll deal with it.

Other than that, and regulatory compliance, it's just maximizing revenue from floor space.

What a wonderful possibility for pretzel logic. I haven't lost a session yet. And since it's about the math I will continue not losing any sessions.  I know when the gantlet is thrown down. When I make a leap to $100+ in each session I will quit that session. This going for ten times that was just showing off. I can win $100 every time without fail. And 10,000 Bozos that can't don't mean nothing to my abilities. It's playing experience, knowing that this game flows in waves, and knowing how to exploit those waves. I know you are not interested in any of this, and will never believe it either. But your logic just then is not scientific.

[Steve]

If you want to prove it on mpr, please do so and shut everyone up.

But please dont do what turbo did - brag, then leave when he started losing, attack the game and me, then move to RS where there are loads of millionaires.

[cht]

If you want to prove it on mpr, please do so and shut everyone up.

But please dont do what turbo did - brag, then leave when he started losing, attack the game and me, then move to RS where there are loads of millionaires.

Aside from MPR and you don't trust RS propose a neutral site to play this prove game.

[Steve]

Aside from MPR and you don't trust RS propose a neutral site to play this prove game.

1. I don't know anything about the source of spins, whereas I know for sure MPR spins are from random.org. RS probably uses linux PRNG which is notoriously flawed.

2. It appears there are an inordinate amount of millionaires at RS. Looks to me quite unrealistic.

3. The website is funded from advertisements that promote casinos. It would benefit from people thinking their system worked. So there is motive there to promote casinos, not to provide an accurate method of testing systems.

[Joe]

RS probably uses linux PRNG which is notoriously flawed.

What makes you think that it's flawed? In the past it had vulnerabilities but in kernels > 48 /dev/random uses a different and cryptographic PRNG, and I haven't seen any reports that it's flawed.

On a different topic, how does the scoring system on MPR work?

[Steve]

Because last time i tested, it wasnt convincingly unpredictable. Same reason that online casinos wont use it.

[Joe]

What a wonderful possibility for pretzel logic. I haven't lost a session yet. And since it's about the math I will continue not losing any sessions.

Giz, I don't know how the scoring system on MPR works, for some reason Steve doesn't want to tell us, but however it works, you can't have a blanket scoring system for all bets, staking systems etc which accurately tells you whether your results are statistically significant. You have to take into account how many numbers you're betting, and the number of wins. Then there's the question of statistical power (probability of a Type II error). I'm not suggesting that any of the systems players are using are long-term winners, but you can't say that none of the results are statistically insignificant, just based on the number of bets. You don't need many thousands of bets to show significance.

[Steve]

for some reason Steve doesn't want to tell us

Actually i published the algorithm before it was coded, and allowed anyone to have input. It is in an earlier thread in the mpr board.

And which username has statistically significant results, with positive results? Maybe a few, but still well writhin norms.