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Started by huskerdu, Apr 25, 05:26 AM 2020

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Herby

Hi CHT,
sorry for my morning blindness.
Now I saw your post.
Thanks

winforus

Quote from: gizmotron2 on Apr 29, 05:56 PM 2020
I  have tried online. I tried Bovada where I have very limited cryptocurrency access. I'm not convinced that they don't cheat. I've tried to confirm that they don't cheat.  It's very fast and the people there don't hammer me to use the ready button. But it's very fast. I like the speed of a busy live table in a B&M casino. It's slow enough to get complicated bets down before the "no more bets" are called.  I can't use my full charts online with the only game that might not be rigged. I can hardly keep up with Rapid Roulette Stadium play.


There are more than enough of slower wills online, on reputable sites. That is BS.

Bottom line, is that you are writing a bunch of claims (just like a million of other people before you), claiming to have a winning method/approach, without providing any proof/evidence. Many have done so before you came here and then disappeared, to be never heard of again.

If you are serious about what you have to say, start with posting screenshots and graphs of winnings + your sessions.

A good rule of thumb  to all the players out there:

Before handing the money over to anybody claiming to have a winning method/approach, always ask for PROOF and evidence! Also for proof,evidence, and vouches from former students. If that player cannot provide proof of winnings - they are more likely than not a losing player. It's simple as that.

There are thousands of methods that are posted and shared on this forum. 99.99% of them don't work (except physics and precognition). If you were to spend your time trying to test them - you would have to end up spending 1000 years on that, it's simply not practical. Thus, before investing money/time into any method - there should be some kind of proof or evidence.

gizmotron2

Quote from: winforus on Apr 30, 04:45 AM 2020There are more than enough of slower wills online, on reputable sites. That is BS.
It's not BS, but it probably is ignorance on my part. I hope so.

I just found this:
" 1. Is the casino Provably fair?

Whenever you play at a casino (physical or virtual one) there’s always the option that the house may be cheating. Of course with the more respected casinos this is rarely the case, but if you go to a somewhat unknown Bitcoin casino site, how can you know that you are getting the winning odds you’re supposed to get.

A trustworthy Bitcoin casino will know that their “house edge” is enough to make a profit and therefore will want to prove to their players that they are not manipulating any results. They do this through a mathematical algorithm involving cryptography (link:s://thebitcoinstrip.com/blog/what-does-provably-fair-mean.html .

Bottom line, a provably fair casino will show you how to check that the results of the game you play are completely random. :.bitstarz.com/provability-explained . If a casino can’t supply this proof or isn’t provably fair I suggest betting with caution.

From Best Bitcoin Casinos 2020 - Massive List (US Approved No Deposit Bonus) "

Is this real? Can there be fair online Roulette with verifiable spin results and no hassle payouts?

Now I will continue to read your response....
Reading Randomness is a single thread. It is backed up by a software instruction thread and software download threads. The Even Chance Pro 1.4 version is the best version to practice on.
gamblingforums dot com/threads/reading-randomness.14733/

gizmotron2

I read the rest of your comment. So what? You think that you get to mandate what is fair? I have given it away for free. I spent 36 years working on it. By all means pass it up. How many of these mechanical contraptions of your 99.99% have clearly given it away for free with so much self verifiable support as I have? I don't care who passes it up. I only care about those that will exploit it until it is too late. It's a skill. If you learn it and do good at it then you will have all the proof that you need. I think it's funny to watch the grievance committee trying so hard to protect others. There's that human nature kicking in again in order to protect the opportunity. I must be really smart. I'm counting on you and your spandex suit to save us all. Thanks a heap for your service.
Reading Randomness is a single thread. It is backed up by a software instruction thread and software download threads. The Even Chance Pro 1.4 version is the best version to practice on.
gamblingforums dot com/threads/reading-randomness.14733/

winforus

I was not talking about RNG wheels! I was talking about real-live wheels, which you can place bets online on! The same wheels that you would play at real casinos at, you can place bets on online.

Hence, I will repeat it. You are free to start a thread, and share your results, and graphs. Dublin Bet is an example of a reputable site, that has many real live wheels available for you to place bets.

Until you show proof - you are no different than a thousands of players came here before you, that eventually disappeared.

gizmotron2

Quote from: winforus on Apr 30, 07:17 AM 2020Hence, I will repeat it. You are free to start a thread, and share your results, and graphs. Dublin Bet is an example of a reputable site, that has many real live wheels available for you to place bets. Enough of excuses.
1. Can a US resident play, deposit money or crypto, withdraw the same at Dublin?

There is this possibility: "Live Online Roulette Games
There are more instances of cheating at roulette in online casinos than in traditional casino rooms.

One common cheating method of online casinos is showing video footages[sic] of the roulette wheel that are not live at all.
Usually, the taped video will buffer towards the end. This will make the player think that it’s just a connection problem when in fact; it’s the exact time when the video tape will switch to the live version.
Interestingly though, there have been instances when the same roulette wheel footage was played in different casinos. The process looks the same but the outcomes are different."

I have heard that Dublin has real players at these live tables that can verify spin results so that there is clearly no cheating going on. I wonder if there is a way to play there for US residents?

BTW, I have no problem beating a fair RNG.
Reading Randomness is a single thread. It is backed up by a software instruction thread and software download threads. The Even Chance Pro 1.4 version is the best version to practice on.
gamblingforums dot com/threads/reading-randomness.14733/

gizmotron2

As I suspected, "DublinBet is not accepting US players. Whether you are from Florida or Illinois, the access to DublinBet.com will be blocked or you will not be able to register to DublinBet online."

So relax a little. Polish your Spandex, iron your cape. I'm searching for a fair game of Roulette that takes US players.
Reading Randomness is a single thread. It is backed up by a software instruction thread and software download threads. The Even Chance Pro 1.4 version is the best version to practice on.
gamblingforums dot com/threads/reading-randomness.14733/

RayManZ

Quote from: gizmotron2 on Apr 30, 07:27 AM 2020
1. Can a US resident play, deposit money or crypto, withdraw the same at Dublin?

There is this possibility: "Live Online Roulette Games
There are more instances of cheating at roulette in online casinos than in traditional casino rooms.

One common cheating method of online casinos is showing video footages[sic] of the roulette wheel that are not live at all.
Usually, the taped video will buffer towards the end. This will make the player think that it’s just a connection problem when in fact; it’s the exact time when the video tape will switch to the live version.
Interestingly though, there have been instances when the same roulette wheel footage was played in different casinos. The process looks the same but the outcomes are different."

I have heard that Dublin has real players at these live tables that can verify spin results so that there is clearly no cheating going on. I wonder if there is a way to play there for US residents?

BTW, I have no problem beating a fair RNG.

Evolution gaming does a lot of live wheel roulette. With a chatroom where you can chat with other players. Would be really something if they managed to manipulate the outcome because you can check every bet with all the other players...

winforus

For USA residents, betonline.ag is one of the best options.

Steve has also listed it as on his site, as the best place to play for US residents:

link:s://:.roulettephysics.com/live-online-roulette-reviews/

Online casinos also allow you to play for much smaller stakes than in land casinos. Some have the stakes as low as 10 or 20 cents. You can play for the minimum, and share your progress - It would put you on a total different plane.

gizmotron2

Quote from: winforus on Apr 30, 07:44 AM 2020
For USA residents, betonline.ag is one of the best options.

Steve has also listed it as on his site, as the best place to play for US residents:

link:s://:.roulettephysics.com/live-online-roulette-reviews/

Online casinos also allow you to play for much smaller stakes than in land casinos. Some have the stakes as low as 10 or 20 cents. You can play for the minimum, and share your progress - It would put you on a total different plane.

Thanks, I'll check it out. Bovada cheats at the live table and requires $5 bets on outside bets. I took a $50 crypto deposit and turned it into $1,400 in four days. I took back a profit of $500 and played the rest. Then I started losing every session. I tried to confirm that there was cheating going on with tips, hand movements of the dealer, and any evidence that I could find for video manipulation. There are no live players at the tables. They can target anyone that they want with stitched together video outcomes. I know this because as a programmer I could do it. And the dealers can chat live while doing that. I think they cheat. I'm at a break even point with them so I won't go back the them.
Reading Randomness is a single thread. It is backed up by a software instruction thread and software download threads. The Even Chance Pro 1.4 version is the best version to practice on.
gamblingforums dot com/threads/reading-randomness.14733/

gizmotron2

This from the link above " This casino streams live video from a real casino. If you only trust spins from a real land-based casino that anyone can physically walk in and play, this one’s for you. The only downside is sometimes the tables get busy and the wheel spins infrequently, although there are other wheels provided that spin more frequently. "

I love it. It has real players (shills) just kidding, and it actually plays slowly, the way that I like it. Anyone here have any troubles with this casino?
Reading Randomness is a single thread. It is backed up by a software instruction thread and software download threads. The Even Chance Pro 1.4 version is the best version to practice on.
gamblingforums dot com/threads/reading-randomness.14733/

Moxy

Quote from: gizmotron2 on Apr 30, 07:08 AM 2020
I read the rest of your comment. So what? You think that you get to mandate what is fair? I have given it away for free. I spent 36 years working on it. By all means pass it up. How many of these mechanical contraptions of your 99.99% have clearly given it away for free with so much self verifiable support as I have? I don't care who passes it up. I only care about those that will exploit it until it is too late. It's a skill. If you learn it and do good at it then you will have all the proof that you need. I think it's funny to watch the grievance committee trying so hard to protect others. There's that human nature kicking in again in order to protect the opportunity. I must be really smart. I'm counting on you and your spandex suit to save us all. Thanks a heap for your service.

First of all if you are the genuine article then why the f*** are you wasting your time with entitled ingrates?!

The type that feel like they should be privy to congratulatory insight just because they discovered this site.  Or ask you to jump hoops for them only to offer mere scraps in return for your revelatory insight.  Why are folks so damn petty and entitled? 

What does it serve you to be on here?  Altruism, recognition, what?  You clearly don't need them. 

Those folks and the scammers are two peas of the same pod on opposite ends of the spectrum.  [But if you're just a scammer then carry on.  Not much needed to be said about them that hasn't been said ad nauseam e.g. unscrupulous, assholes, etc.,.]

In case you're confused, I'm partial to you're argument

Moxy

Quote from: winforus on Apr 30, 07:17 AM 2020
I was not talking about RNG wheels! I was talking about real-live wheels, which you can place bets online on! The same wheels that you would play at real casinos at, you can place bets on online.

Hence, I will repeat it. You are free to start a thread, and share your results, and graphs. Dublin Bet is an example of a reputable site, that has many real live wheels available for you to place bets.

Until you show proof - you are no different than a thousands of players came here before you, that eventually disappeared.

This is by no means an indictment on you specifically, although if you qualify then you should take heed as well; it's a PSA.

I am NOT surprised no one objects to petty entitlement but rail against scammers all day.  If each complicit individual on this site took internal audit of themselves they would suspect the glaring HYPOCRISY within themselves.

People wanting something tangible through blood, sweat and tears, for free or mere scraps are just as DEPLORABLE as the scammers who feed off the very same folks by offering them false hope for...  mere scraps.

It's like some regular Joe wanting partial credit for a boxing championship belt an athlete worked hard all their lives for just because they have a temperament of a 12 year old.  What sense does that make?

To the petty and entitled faction AND the scammers: You deserve each other.




gizmotron2

Quote from: Moxy on Apr 30, 02:46 PM 2020
First of all if you are the genuine article then why the f*** are you wasting your time with entitled ingrates?!

The type that feel like they should be privy to congratulatory insight just because they discovered this site.  Or ask you to jump hoops for them only to offer mere scraps in return for your revelatory insight.  Why are folks so damn petty and entitled? 

What does it serve you to be on here?  Altruism, recognition, what?  You clearly don't need them. 

Those folks and the scammers are two peas of the same pod on opposite ends of the spectrum.  [But if you're just a scammer then carry on.  Not much needed to be said about them that hasn't been said ad nauseam e.g. unscrupulous, assholes, etc.,.]

In case you're confused, I'm partial to you're argument

Ha Ha ha! You win the prize. You have found me out sort of. This is the closest to asking the right questions so for in decades. Why put up with it? I have to go back to the days of just hinting at it and sort of exposing the "effectiveness states" at the old Gambler's Glen forum. That was when I decided that an all out reversal of beliefs was to be executed as a war against the then labeled "mathNazis," a correction from then accepted tag "mathBoyz."  It is in fact Snowman, the destroyer of GG that is still seen all around the internet forums. That obnoxious SOB use to convict me of claiming the ability to predict future outcomes based on past spins. He had that syndrome worse than a Trump hater.  I grew to have my own vindictive plan and that is to use Reading Randomness as one of the biggest "Oh no, it can't be true" moments in opportunities missed in history. Nobody will be able to say that I kept it to myself as some kind of common intellectual selfishness. And it will serve up the finest excrement snack for them to chew on for decades to come. I've had a full experience life. I've had the highest highs and the lowest lows. I just wanted to see what it was like to change things a little and to do the unbelievable. I decided to do the opposite of human nature.

These forums are the best place to do this. I know that they are filled with all sorts of players at different stages of learning how to gamble. We get the ubiquitous Martingale transformation zealots, the fully engulfed system junkies, led by the greatest crash test dummy of them all, TurboGenius. There's this new interest in the 6th sense. And the mathNazi's and their surrogates are here in their stages too. It's all a menagerie of personally focused  experts and learners on a quest for the Holy Grail. Why not here.

I could kill this long running thing any time I write a sim that proves it. I'd rather see someone else write that software. It would even be a greater achievement to have someone else write it after I have exposed it.
Reading Randomness is a single thread. It is backed up by a software instruction thread and software download threads. The Even Chance Pro 1.4 version is the best version to practice on.
gamblingforums dot com/threads/reading-randomness.14733/

gizmotron2

Quote from: Moxy on Apr 30, 03:14 PM 2020To the petty and entitled faction AND the scammers: You deserve each other.
Now that level of introspect can cause harm to so many locked up at one time.
Reading Randomness is a single thread. It is backed up by a software instruction thread and software download threads. The Even Chance Pro 1.4 version is the best version to practice on.
gamblingforums dot com/threads/reading-randomness.14733/

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