If we want to find a HG, maybe we should think as we were the Casino bank

[huskerdu]

The casinos:
In order to beat the mathematics have already done it with:
•   The zero
•   The table limits.
In order to fight any kind of the physics issue, have already:
•   Put those diamonds around the wheel.
•   Examine regularly the wheels for any biased flaws.
•   Dealers cannot spin the ball at exactly  the same speed (it is human impossible)
•   The wheel turns alternatively right and left.
Other weapons of casinos are the newbies, the gambler’s fallacy, the players’ greediness and any other kind of players’psychology which arises anxiety, desperation, anguish and many more that obfuscate their minds.
But is there anything that casinos afraid?
Is there any kind of betting or any kind of players who are afraid of?
If we think about it, maybe we could come closer to a kind of HG.
So think of that:
Say that you play a roulette game with your friends at home.
You are the “owner” of the casino. You have 10,000 dollars in your bank.
You invite 5 friends in your home and they play roulette, each using 100 dollars bankroll.
What kind of player would you afraid of ?
What kind of betting would you afraid of ?
If we think deeper from the side of the “casino owner” maybe we could find a system of play that casinos are afraid of.
My opinion:
I would afraid a “hit and run” player.  Put his money on 30 numbers, so as a casino owner I’d  have only 1/6 chances to win.
He wins 5 units and goes away.
What kind of players or systems of play would you afraid of, as a casino owner?

[Steve]

The book "Casino Game Protection" by Steve Forte answers this. It covers all the major ways casino lose money to players. But some of the information especially about roulette is 10+ years behind.

[Steve]

And you're on the right track.

What casinos do amd what they're scared if gives clues on what works.

Specifically their countermeasures. There are many of them.

You'll never get banned for chasing repeaters or using the martingale etc. I wonder why.

The big lucky winner is always a threat. But the big stupid losers balance it out.

[SWEET]

Casino win and rakes in most gambler's br, because of "extreme variance".
Gambler would, win,win,win,win, with their systems, them , suddenly, lose all br, and all previous profit, and money from the atm too.
If I am casino owner, I fear, a gambler, who could, calculate the probability, sit out and avoid the extreme variance, then bet the rest, with mild progression, win and run.

[winforus]

Casino win and rakes in most gambler's br, because of "extreme variance".
Gambler would, win,win,win,win, with their systems, them , suddenly, lose all br, and all previous profit, and money from the atm too.
If I am casino owner, I fear, a gambler, who could, calculate the probability, sit out and avoid the extreme variance, then bet the rest, with mild progression, win and run.

LOL, that is not the primary reason why the casinos win. How do you not understand that any "system" is always going to lose in the long run?

Example:

For European roulette, the payout for the single number is 35 to 1. And there are 37 numbers which you can bet on. Meaning that the casino, has a house edge or EV (expected value)  of 2.7%. This means - that any "system" is bound to lose in the long run.

Sure, for the players that are using progressions and playing outside of their bankroll will go broke faster, but that is not the primary reason as to how casino makes the money from roulette.

After all of these years, it is mind boggling that players either don't understand this basic thing, or just don't want to acknowledge this fact.

[SWEET]

hello winforus,
with due respect.

that arguement of "edge",ev2.7%,rtm, ecart,35/37payout,bla,bla,bla, already stale,
when first casino open for business....
Puhleeesh,
I had read that for millions times, since I could read english.
All that math calculations, that mathboys researched to their death, already make people rolls their eyes before finishing the paragraph.
Extreme Variance, happened, alternatingly with positive variance and within math expectation.
These TRIO, alternate, disciminately, and unpredictable, and only after long spins, could we see ,within rtm expectation.
Please dont post, all that stale, eyes rolling stuff again, please....

[winforus]

hello winforus,
with due respect.

that arguement of "edge",ev2.7%,rtm, ecart,35/37payout,bla,bla,bla, already stale,
when first casino open for business....
Puhleeesh,
I had read that for millions times, since I could read english.
All that math calculations, that mathboys researched to their death, already make people rolls their eyes before finishing the paragraph.
Extreme Variance, happened, alternatingly with positive variance and within math expectation.
These TRIO, alternate, disciminately, and unpredictable, and only after long spins, could we see ,within rtm expectation.
Please dont post, all that stale, eyes rolling stuff again, please....

All you say here is that it is "stale". Can you explain and provide reasoning/argument as to why it is invalid? I am telling you that 1+1 = 2 and you are trying to tell me that 1+1= 3 here. This is basic math and it's a fact.

You clearly have no understanding of basic probabilities and expected value.

[SWEET]

say,
for you to understand,
Bet RED for next 100spins.
WHAT will happen?

Three event will and must happen,
1. RED>BLACK
2.RED<BLACK
3.RED/BLACK, almost equal,with few green.

this unarguable facts.
the worst ever recorded hit/200spins, only 69red/200spins,
while, people never witnessed less than 30/100spins.
thus, in next 100spins, you may only get 30hit, or 69hit/200.
That what we call EXTREME VARIANCE.

[SWEET]

you cant win 30hit/100, with labouchere, start with(1),or(0.1)
But we could win 30/100, with modified labby, alas unplayable in bm casino, since, br will shoot up very high.
69/200, can beaten with labouchere, start with (0-1), since 69/200, is more than 33.34%.
it close at 67th hit. and br shoot to hundreds units.
The only way to win in casino, are,
1)bet selection that filter out and sit out, the extreme variance.
2)stop loss, or accept losses, that will compensated by more seasons profits.
3)progressions, that match, a bet selection that produce hit, within the MATH EXPECTATION OF THE PROGRESSION.
meaning that, if your bet selection cant produce more win, that your selected progression needed, to closed, that it will bust. ..or lose br

thats why, many people, dont realise, that, their systems fail, because, the game could produce, less hit, than they thought possible, that their progression, cant withstand the assault, and soon bust.

[winforus]

say,
for you to understand,
Bet RED for next 100spins.
WHAT will happen?

Three event will and must happen,
1. RED>BLACK
2.RED<BLACK
3.RED/BLACK, almost equal,with few green.

this unarguable facts.
the worst ever recorded hit/200spins, only 69red/200spins,
while, people never witnessed less than 30/100spins.
thus, in next 100spins, you may only get 30hit, or 69hit/200.
That what we call EXTREME VARIANCE.

Why are you only considering 100 or 200 spins? Do you understand how small of a sample size this is and how irrelevant it is? Log run is not 100 spins or even 1000 spins. You talk about "variance", yet you have just demonstrated to me, that you don't even know what this word means.

The odds are still the same - weather you play 1 spin, 100 spins, or 300 spins.

If you are betting red or black, here are the basics for you:

On the European wheel, there are 37 numbers. 18 are black, 18 are red, and 1 green. So the odds of red or black spinning are 18/37 = 0.4865. This means that you will win 48.65% of the time on a red/black bet, meaning that in the long run you will lose! (it's below 50% or 1 to 1 payout).

You are totally ignorant of the most basic fundamental things, when it comes to odds, variance, expected value, etc.

[SWEET]

All you say here is that it is "stale". Can you explain and provide reasoning/argument as to why it is invalid? I am telling you that 1+1 = 2 and you are trying to tell me that 1+1= 3 here. This is basic math and it's a fact.

You clearly have no understanding of basic probabilities and expected value.

Winforus,
with respect,
lets play a very simple game.
Many erudite members here already know the answer, how to play this simple game.

In a box, there 30red marbles and 70black marbles. I will take one out, and cast aside,
now, you bet only RED, and how to win at least one unit?(treat it like 30red/70black in roulette, follow casino rules)
if you cant answer in 10 seconds, then you need to read more...

[winforus]

Winforus,
with respect,
lets play a very simple game.
Many erudite members here already know the answer, how to play this simple game.

In a box, there 30red marbles and 70black marbles. I will take one out, and cast aside,
now, you bet only RED, and how to win at least one unit?(treat it like 30red/70black in roulette, follow casino rules)
if you cant answer in 10 seconds, then you need to read more...

Except, that's not how it works in casino. Casino, does not cast one aside! Why are you changing the rules?

Take a box with 18 red, 18 black, and 1 green. The payout is 1-1 if you a pick red or black. After it gets taken out, you put it back in.

Do it 100 times or 1000 times- and on average you will win 48.65% of the time.

You are ignoring and arguing against most basic and simple math.

If you can't understand the math that I wrote above - then you have to brain damaged or with some serious disabilities, I have no other way to say this.

[SWEET]

Why are you only considering 100 or 200 spins? Do you understand how small of a sample size this is and how irrelevant it is? Log run is not 100 spins or even 1000 spins. You talk about "variance", yet you have just demonstrated to me, that you don't even know what this word means.

The odds are still the same - weather you play 1 spin, 100 spins, or 300 spins.

If you are betting red or black, here are the basics for you:

On the European wheel, there are 37 numbers. 18 are black, 18 are red, and 1 green. So the odds of red or black spinning are 18/37 = 0.4865. This means that you will win 48.65% of the time on a red/black bet, meaning that in the long run you will lose! (it's below 50% or 1 to 1 payout).

You are totally ignorant of the most basic fundamental things, when it comes to odds, variance, expected value, etc.

Winforus,
with respect,
please,please,please,
no more math facts here, its too hard for me, please start from the very first basic.
1+1=2?
why?
why 1+1=2???
My brain too slow.
but...
All members here already understand all that fact,
they already know,
that the earth is round,
theres 24hours in a day,
we need oxygen, water is h20, fish needs water,
and...bla,bla,bla..
please...stop...
good night,midnight here.

[winforus]

Winforus,
with respect,
please,please,please,
no more math facts here, its too hard for me, please start from the very first basic.
1+1=2?
why?
why 1+1=2???
My brain too slow.
but...
All members here already understand all that fact,
they already know,
that the earth is round,
theres 24hours in a day,
we need oxygen, water is h20, fish needs water,
and...bla,bla,bla..
please...stop...
good night,midnight here.

You are an idiot, I have nothing more left to say. This is the reason why casinos make so much money, from people not understanding the basics.

Take a box with 18 red, 18 black, and 1 green. The payout is 1-1 if you a pick red or black. After it gets taken out, you put it back in.

Do it 100 times or 1000 times- and on average you will win 48.65% of the time. (below 50%)

You are ignoring and arguing against most basic and simple math.

[SWEET]

Except, that's not how it works in casino. Casino, does not cast one aside! Why are you changing the rules?

Take a box with 18 red, 18 black, and 1 green. The payout is 1-1 if you a pick red or black. After it gets taken out, you put it back in.

Do it 100 times or 1000 times- and on average you will win 48.65% of the time.

You are ignoring and arguing against most basic and simple math.

If you can't understand the math that I wrote above - then you have to brain damaged or with some serious disabilities, I have no other way to say this.

hello winforus,
with respect,
this a simple game.
Cast aside, mean, I do not put that marble back, so it is like, in next 100spins, you will have
only 30reds, and 70blacks , in all the possible PERMUTATION.

(search for permutation)
and follow casino rules, mean as if you are in a casino, and follow their real rules.
Now think very hard, in 10 hours instead of 10 seconds, how to win 1unit...follow casino rules.
good night, zzzzzz