Lets see what is the best metohd!

[Proofreaders2000]

Hello LCDP Welcome to the Forum.

Until you learn the game imo do not play with real money.

Look for seasoned player(s) and glean experience.

There are also books out there to aid in your Grail search.

[Moxy]

So no chance for me to make 1000 euro with roulette.

Thank you!

Also, this is a good forum with intelligent peoples. I like to read everything here.

Good luck

Just tinkle with repeaters and sleepers and virtual bets and triggers and trending for fun if you want.  No money required.   

Steve's roulette computers are irrelevant here since it requires fair compensation for it's actual value.

[winforus]

With so much bad advice given out on this forum, I think it would be helpful if Steve could create a new sticky thread for the newbies:

- Explaining why systems don't work and why they should stay way from them
- Holy grail being an illusion
- If their goal is to make money from roulette - they should be prepared to put in many hours and testing first, before using real money to play.

I know this information has already been said many times, but I think there should be a sticky - that should be mandatory to read upon creating a new account on this site. It would save a lot of time and money for many people.

We don't need anymore system junkies - we need people who would contribute new and innovating ideas.

[LCDP]

Yes, thank you all!

I appreciate all your advices.

I'm not so newbie because I'm playing in real casinos for a few years. But don't have a satisfying method to generate me an 100% monthly income. I have a job like a normal man. Good salary but you know every time we need more. I treat roulette like a hobby but I know I need to study more if I don't want just to lose my time. When I'm in casinos I'm playing simple methods. If I win I go home. I'm not greedy and this helps me.
I have friends who lose everything, houses, cars, family, business, because of roulette. They didn't know when to stop. Also, my last boss loses the company in the casino. I had to find another job lol.

So first I just listen to your advice and after I will try to create something.

Thank you
Have a good day!

LCDP

[Roulettebeater]

Yes, thank you all!

I appreciate all your advices.

I'm not so newbie because I'm playing in real casinos for a few years. But don't have a satisfying method to generate me an 100% monthly income. I have a job like a normal man. Good salary but you know every time we need more. I treat roulette like a hobby but I know I need to study more if I don't want just to lose my time. When I'm in casinos I'm playing simple methods. If I win I go home. I'm not greedy and this helps me.
I have friends who lose everything, houses, cars, family, business, because of roulette. They didn't know when to stop. Also, my last boss loses the company in the casino. I had to find another job lol.

So first I just listen to your advice and after I will try to create something.

Thank you
Have a good day!

LCDP

LOL your Story can become a Hollywood film
It’s better to stay away of people around you who are desperate and addicted to roulette.

You saying that your salary is good, why you want more ?
try to use your free time in something more useful than losing money to the casino.

[LCDP]

Because I like math. In my free time, I'm going to the Gym, swim. Roulette is interesting. It opens your mind.

Thank you

LCDP

[Roulettebeater]

Because I like math. In my free time, I'm going to the Gym, swim. Roulette is interesting. It opens your mind.

Thank you

LCDP

LOL, roulette can open something else than your mind!
If you start losing, and become addicted, it will eventually open your ar*e, that’s why I don’t recommend people play roulette unless they use Steve‘s computers 

[ati]

Let me ask you something: suppose you have a 1000units BR. How hard would it be for you (or someone else) to earn 20units? Just asking....

Once? It totally depends on your luck.
Every time? That would be very hard with traditional systems.

Unfortunately a big bankroll is not enough to survive a long losing streak. It can delay the loss, but in the end you will lose big.
I used to play 1 cent roulette with a over â,¬500 bankroll. So I had over 50000 units. It sounds safe, but it didn't take long to lose it all with progressions.

[Steeefan2014]

Once? It totally depends on your luck.
Every time? That would be very hard with traditional systems.

Unfortunately a big bankroll is not enough to survive a long losing streak. It can delay the loss, but in the end you will lose big.
I used to play 1 cent roulette with a over â,¬500 bankroll. So I had over 50000 units. It sounds safe, but it didn't take long to lose it all with progressions.

It's not so hard, really! Sorry to hear about your loss, I am sure it happens. But still... you need a clear mind, a pretty good bet selection and a good MM. This is my opinion... with 1000units BR, you can easily make 20units in a few spins. And if you manage to do that a few times a day, you can raise a nice amount.

[ati]

It's not so hard, really! Sorry to hear about your loss, I am sure it happens. But still... you need a clear mind, a pretty good bet selection and a good MM. This is my opinion... with 1000units BR, you can easily make 20units in a few spins. And if you manage to do that a few times a day, you can raise a nice amount.

Sorry but that sounds delusional. You cannot make "easily" a small amount on a regular basis. Otherwise everyone would be doing it. Many people think like they just want to win $20 a day and that's it. But it's not how it works. If you can win $20 a day, you could also win $2000 a day. There is zero difference, raising the stakes will not change your odds of winning.

Short term is non existent, playing 50 spins a day for 10 days is no different from playing 500 spins on one day. Every step, like short sessions, stop losses, recovery sessions, clever progressions,  "don't get greedy" attitude is only delaying the loss. But it will come.
Just look at how many people on the forum at one point proudly posted that they are winning $200 or so every day for weeks, but then all of them suddenly turned quiet and disappeared, or started looking for the next winning system.
Many years ago I too had 30-40 winning days in a row, of course I thought I had found the HG, maybe I even bragged about it. But the progression and playing only 1 hour a day only delayed what was inevitable.

[Mister Eko]

Sorry but that sounds delusional. You cannot make "easily" a small amount on a regular basis. Otherwise everyone would be doing it. Many people think like they just want to win $20 a day and that's it. But it's not how it works. If you can win $20 a day, you could also win $2000 a day. There is zero difference, raising the stakes will not change your odds of winning.

Short term is non existent, playing 50 spins a day for 10 days is no different from playing 500 spins on one day. Every step, like short sessions, stop losses, recovery sessions, clever progressions,  "don't get greedy" attitude is only delaying the loss. But it will come.
Just look at how many people on the forum at one point proudly posted that they are winning $200 or so every day for weeks, but then all of them suddenly turned quiet and disappeared, or started looking for the next winning system.
Many years ago I too had 30-40 winning days in a row, of course I thought I had found the HG, maybe I even bragged about it. But the progression and playing only 1 hour a day only delayed what was inevitable.

Yes this was your destiny, the progression. But what if you would use flatbet, would you still lose all your winnings?

I not agree that 10x50 is equal one long 500 spin test. Under 50 spins depending on your system the variance probably cant be appear so hard, and you after 50 spins stop, and end the session. The next 50 number is another sequence, the variance still on low, and you can manage it with your wingoals etc. Playing a long 500 spin continuouslya killer, the variance is huge I cant explain it in more detail.

[ati]

I would have lost, but much slower. Every bet has negative expected value.

It probably won't convince you, but if you really understand what random and independence means, you realize that from variance point of view it makes no difference whether you play short sessions or long sessions.
What can fool people is the fact that it's quite possible for someone to almost always enter the game when it's going to win, for a long period of time. When I won 40 days straight without loss, I played rng every day. But what if an average player who plays in a casino once a week does the same. He would win 40 weeks straight, and I would tell the whole world how smart his systems is and it cannot lose.

Let data speak.
Here is a chart for flat bet play on dominant dozen for 10K continuous spins. The result is close to the expected -270. Below that I randomly selected 80 times 20 continuous spins to be our short session games and combined the result. It didn't make any difference.

[precogmiles]

I agree ati. I really don't get what is so hard to understand about why roulette is impossible to beat using a system.

A winning roulette system is an oxymoron.

To add to the complication the casinos will cheat when they have to. They do not need to cheat, but they do on occations so that they can make a profit everyday.

Just look on YouTube for videos of the ball moving in extremely bizarre ways. Again they don't do it every spin but it does happen.

[LCDP]

I can tell you what I'm doing for 2 weeks even if I'm a beginner. Maybe I'm right maybe not.
With a bankroll of 200 pounds, I'm playing this method: link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=27064.15
and this: link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=27062.msg240394;topicseen#msg240394

I play just flatbet no progression. Hit and run!
I have 200 units balance if I manage to win in 5 minutes 10 units or 20 depends on my luck I just quit. and I play the next day the same thing. Just real dealer online. At Grand Casino. I'm playing till reach a new high lol. I don't care if I make 5 pounds or 10 or 20. I'm happy with this.
Untill now is working. In 2 weeks I doubled my balance.
I don't want to play more than a few minutes per day because this will make me lose. Maybe I will get greedy. I don't know.
And I know that not every day is the same. I will lose my balance maybe today, maybe tomorrow. But I only invest the money I can afford to lose.

Thank you for sharing your methods!
You're amazing!

Have a nice day

LCDP

[precogmiles]

I can tell you what I'm doing for 2 weeks even if I'm a beginner. Maybe I'm right maybe not.
With a bankroll of 200 pounds, I'm playing this method: link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=27064.15
and this: link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=27062.msg240394;topicseen#msg240394

I play just flatbet no progression. Hit and run!
I have 200 units balance if I manage to win in 5 minutes 10 units or 20 depends on my luck I just quit. and I play the next day the same thing. Just real dealer online. At Grand Casino. I'm playing till reach a new high lol. I don't care if I make 5 pounds or 10 or 20. I'm happy with this.
Untill now is working. In 2 weeks I doubled my balance.
I don't want to play more than a few minutes per day because this will make me lose. Maybe I will get greedy. I don't know.
And I know that not every day is the same. I will lose my balance maybe today, maybe tomorrow. But I only invest the money I can afford to lose.

Thank you for sharing your methods!
You're amazing!

Have a nice day

LCDP

So you play roulette to have fun?

Why waste your time playing a system then? Just make random guesses. That is more exciting.