10 years on. What are the conclusion? What wins?

[ignatus]

It would seem so. The other two forums have threads exploring martingales and repeaters, in 2020

so you smart-ass.... you ever figured, Roulette was for Fun?? Roulette is NOT a "business" and FORGET about the f*cking HOLY GRAIL that you all stupid mother f*ckers believe....im sick of this attitude...now, do you like destory the little creative spirit that exist, sure?... god damn you a*sses all of you.. :/

[INTERCEPTOR]

Do you accept donations? 🤣

[Ross]

so you smart-ass.... you ever figured, Roulette was for Fun?? Roulette is NOT a "business" and FORGET about the f*cking HOLY GRAIL that you all stupid mother f*ckers believe....im sick of this attitude...now, do you like destory the little creative spirit that exist, sure?... god damn you a*sses all of you.. :/

Disappointed to see this post Ignatus.  Tell me you're not serious.

[winforus]

so you smart-ass.... you ever figured, Roulette was for Fun?? Roulette is NOT a "business" and FORGET about the f*cking HOLY GRAIL that you all stupid mother f*ckers believe....im sick of this attitude...now, do you like destory the little creative spirit that exist, sure?... god damn you a*sses all of you.. :/

So losing is fun for you?

Have you considered spending your time on coding something useful rather than on countless of losing systems?

[pepper]

Roulette was for Fun??

There is nothing fun about creating losing systems. This is a lame defensive/offensive/excuse.
In fact it is the opposite of fun. If anything it is like a disease of the mind.

[ignatus]

There is nothing fun about creating losing systems. This is a lame defensive/offensive/excuse.
In fact it is the opposite of fun. If anything it is like a disease of the mind.

Again, i tell you you stupid smart-ass mother f**.... FORGET about "The Holy Grail".. i have created a millions of winning systems SHORT TERM. But? problem is Everybody wants the HOLY GRAIL. YET The Holy Grail doesnt exist. Atleast you will not find it in your life-time, not with that attitude. WHY? Because to find a "decent, winning system" (SHORT TERM) you need to also create a ZILLIONS OF LOSING SYSTEMS. And? with your sucking attitude you will Neither find a "decent winning system" (Short Term) NOR will you find the so called "HOLY GRAIL" BECAUSE of your bad attitude, and your unwillingsness, to accept your so called "creative spirit" (with its failures,and its success) THAT is my point. So? F*CK OFF you ALL "oh you create losing systems" .... Get Real ffs?  as i said you will find NOTHING with that kind of attitude......

[Badger]

I agree with you Ignatus
Some people  do Sudoku. Others crossword puzzles. Others play chess.
A famous chess player, Dr Tarrasch, once said, " Chess, like music, has the power to make one happy."
I think that is true of any hobby.

[Ross]

I agree with you Ignatus
Some people  do Sudoku. Others crossword puzzles. Others play chess.
A famous chess player, Dr Tarrasch, once said, " Chess, like music, has the power to make one happy."
I think that is true of any hobby.

Well said Badger. I agree 100%.

Anyway if you don't create a  lot of losing systems how would you
recognize the HG if you found it?

[ignatus]

Well said Badger. I agree 100%.

Anyway if you don't create a  lot of losing systems how would you
recognize the HG if you found it?

Thank you, for understanding me now... i wish "people" would dare to share what their ideas or what they are working on atm, this is what the forum is about right?, sharing ideas? (but for me) as you may know i like more to test/invent systems more than "playing for real" (but that is another story):S anyway... cheers

[pepper]

There is nothing fun about creating losing systems. This is a lame defensive/offensive/excuse.
In fact it is the opposite of fun. If anything it is like a disease of the mind.

Ignatius, are you really accepting donations for systems that lose as much as random betting? No. I believe you believe that you may have found a winning system when you accept donations. Why would anyone give you money when it is more fun for them to create their own way of losing money?

I guess I could be wrong about creating losing systems for fun as a hobby. I just find it hard to believe it is fun, b/c you get this excited feeling in you when your system is working. There is at least a part of you that gets excited to think that you could have found a long term winner. Then you get disappointed when it fails.

[Tinsoldiers]

Repeaters

They work. Any one needs a proof I can show profit after any 100 spins and we can do a open challenge.  May be on Steve’s roulette simulator. I don’t have time to play millions of spins. But I can prove it for anyone for a 100 spin on any forum.  They work.

[pepper]

They work. Any one needs a proof I can show profit after any 100 spins and we can do a open challenge.  May be on Steve’s roulette simulator. I don’t have time to play millions of spins. But I can prove it for anyone for a 100 spin on any forum.  They work.

The roulette wheel has no memory. There is no such thing as patterns or repeaters. This way of thinking is idiotic.

[Tinsoldiers]

The roulette wheel has no memory. There is no such thing as patterns or repeaters. This way of thinking is idiotic.

You are spot on and no questions asked on the memory. However there are patterns and repeaters. It is a fact that there are patterns and repeaters, as it is simple probability. 

Coming to idiotic, am claiming it can be used to win and am ready to prove it as well.  Are you ready to see the proof? Can we agree a time to get on to some roulette simulator or a online casino where I can get you in profit every time within 100 spins?

[game over]

I want to see it, can I?

[pepper]

You are spot on and no questions asked on the memory. However there are patterns and repeaters. It is a fact that there are patterns and repeaters, as it is simple probability. 

Coming to idiotic, am claiming it can be used to win and am ready to prove it as well.  Are you ready to see the proof? Can we agree a time to get on to some roulette simulator or a online casino where I can get you in profit every time within 100 spins?

If you have a huge edge it wouldn't take too many spins, but I'm assuming you are claiming a realistic (smaller) edge, which would require lots of spins.

So, do you claim to be a millionaire or billionaire, because that's what winning roulette knowledge would be worth. This fact alone demonstrates that I can predict with an about 99.9% certainty that you cannot beat the game.

U do know that you need like 10,000 spins to prove an edge for betting a small amount of numbers at a time? If you are betting a larger amount of numbers then you still need a lot. Actually, I think it's a lot more than 10,000 for a small amount and more like 10,000 for a larger amount. This is due to variance. You said you don't want to test with a lot of spins.