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Reading Randomness ( The Real Way ) @ Roulette Simulator

Started by gizmotron2, Jun 02, 09:50 AM 2020

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gizmotron2

Here is a great example of a very difficult session. There were 69 rounds.


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Reading Randomness is a single thread. It is backed up by a software instruction thread and software download threads. The Even Chance Pro 1.4 version is the best version to practice on.
gamblingforums dot com/threads/reading-randomness.14733/

pepper

Giz,
Could you apply roulette results to baccarat? If not directly, could you at least see correlations between roulette results and baccarat results to beat the game? Could you apply any sort of randomness to anything? Say I want to roll an unbiased die and somehow throw this result in the mix of roulette or any type of randomness. Imo, you can relate anything to anything.

I think you stick with roulette because it may give you more even chance opportunities, but I would still like to know if this is possible.



...even more outside of the box, say I want to relate my latest thought, or my local sport team's latest score to roulette results or any type of randomness.

pepper

Even if these unrelated things are not as profitable, I would still like to know if they're possible.

gizmotron2

Turbo has a new thread and a possible new direction forming, -- titled : "Math and the art of describing randomness"
link:s://youtu.be/j1dKvoa2ITw

I wrote this in that thread that Wolfie posted:

"This should be good. Just remember this much if nothing else. Math will never tell you when a pattern or trend will start, it won't tell you how long the streak will last, and it will not tell you when the streak will end. But because of these two videos you know that a streak will happen.

You can have an absence of singles in the Red / Black while at the same time have a swarm of singles in the Odd / Even. You can have 20 high numbers in a row in the Low / High grouping while having a swarm of doubles in the Red / Black. Roulette is better than all the other games because you have more opportunities to recognize what has been believed by the majority of people to be anomalies. These factious representations of chaos are in fact common normalization. It's people's minds that get organized to see and relate to things that just don't seem right. When you expect something to happen you are trapped into making decisions that are not likely to evolve. In the one video the tester noticed that the recipient's perception of randomness was mostly limited to one triple and then the occasional double. It was like a poker player's tell. He exploited the weakness in understanding true randomness.

Once you immerse yourself in freeing up your expectations then you open yourself up to a better capacity to observe the now state. Turbo would say that things must happen. I agree. Things, like opportunities, must happen. With Roulette you can have multiple streams of conditional characteristics like described above all occurring at the same time. Most of the times these will be different characteristics. But some gambling sessions also include sequences that a single characteristic will swarm all over the charting data and continue for a much longer period of time. This is the gold mine of gambling. This is the most finest of all opportunities in randomness. Sure, 20 Reds in a row is good. But there will be times when you get 10 Odds followed by 11 high numbers followed by 9 Black numbers, followed by 13 pet numbers from the "Zeros" set, followed by 12 numbers from Kimo Li's "Hemi" set, whatever that is, followed by 8 Red numbers. The characteristic becomes obvious. The human brain can pick this out of a chart in seconds.

The person that tries to see these characteristics through the lens of mathematical formulas or matrix styled pulses will never be able to use visual dexterity to see multiple unique characteristics in opportunity modes. I will be fascinated to see how Turbo applies math to explain randomness. Perhaps it is an expression that math will never explain randomness as far as the absence of large numbers is concerned. One thing is for sure though. You can't have four in a row before you have three in a row."

I hope that this helps you to understand.

Turbo posted this video with these words: "That is part of the topic of my next thread coming soon."

link:s://youtu.be/tP-Ipsat90c



Reading Randomness is a single thread. It is backed up by a software instruction thread and software download threads. The Even Chance Pro 1.4 version is the best version to practice on.
gamblingforums dot com/threads/reading-randomness.14733/

gizmotron2

Quote from: pepper on Jun 14, 08:56 AM 2020Could you apply roulette results to baccarat?
Yes, although I prefer Craps.
Reading Randomness is a single thread. It is backed up by a software instruction thread and software download threads. The Even Chance Pro 1.4 version is the best version to practice on.
gamblingforums dot com/threads/reading-randomness.14733/

pepper

Quote from: gizmotron2 on Jun 13, 08:52 PM 2020Here is a great example of a very difficult session. There were 69 rounds.
Giz,
After the 31st result you have --------------- going through B,R,O,E,L,H. What does this mean? Was there a zero or double zero or something?

Are 0 and 6 just another 18 numbers you track? If they are, are zero or double zero included in any of these? What's P and S? Are these another 18 numbers, with 9 numbers overlapping into each category of P and S?

gizmotron2

Yes, ---------------------- is a zero.

It's all explained at another forum where you must log in in order to see all the images in full size. I tell where in my signature here. You need to assemble the link as software here clobbers the URLs.

"Reading Randomness is a single thread. It is backed up by a software instruction thread and software download threads. The Even Chance Pro 1.4 version is the best version to practice on.
gamblingforums dot com/threads/reading-randomness.14733/ "

It is discussed here because many players here have been working on it.
Reading Randomness is a single thread. It is backed up by a software instruction thread and software download threads. The Even Chance Pro 1.4 version is the best version to practice on.
gamblingforums dot com/threads/reading-randomness.14733/

Elite


gizmotron2

Quote from: Elite on Jun 15, 09:22 AM 2020
Am I reading randomness correctly.

Perhaps. I have 3 groups that are made up from the American wheel configuration. These are my own pet groupings. These groups work regardless of European or American configurations. It's just the size of these groups and their two sets that matters. The American configurations are based on spokes of three or 9 numbers in each set. They are opposite or opposite and perpendicular to each other combined. Then there is a magical belief set and its opposite. I call that set the Specials. These are my own personal and already memorized sets and groups. You can make up your own and practice with index cards and ink pens. You might already have Kimo Li's sets and groupings memorized. It does not matter.

What matters is that your sets and groups will go into streaks at the same time that win streaks occur. That is the only reason that I use them and all the different characteristics. I'm just hunting win streaks and using trends and patterns to identify them. On their own the trends and patterns are meaningless and have no power to cause anything.

If you want almost all the information on this then go to the link that needs assembly in my signature of each post here.
Reading Randomness is a single thread. It is backed up by a software instruction thread and software download threads. The Even Chance Pro 1.4 version is the best version to practice on.
gamblingforums dot com/threads/reading-randomness.14733/

Elite

Good info Giz, keeping this system,  i made Black Jack bet behind system, that system is place same unit  as someone win , if win 2 then put 2 units, or 20 based on basic unit available, this way winning streak of someone can be catch, i play this if someone has win 3 or more times,  didnt, test much,  I  believe u win more , as patterns are natural to come 

gizmotron2

Quote from: Elite on Jun 15, 11:56 AM 2020
Good info Giz, keeping this system,  i made Black Jack bet behind system, that system is place same unit  as someone win , if win 2 then put 2 units, or 20 based on basic unit available, this way winning streak of someone can be catch, i play this if someone has win 3 or more times,  didnt, test much,  I  believe u win more , as patterns are natural to come

I was with a friend at a casino once that liked to play Blackjack. The table he was at was right next to a Roulette wheel that I was also tracking. So I was standing next to him on a crowded Blackjack table watching him and the wheel at the same time. I noticed that he would win two bets and lose one bet in a perfect sequence after a while. So I told him when to bet big and when to bet the minimum. It worked perfectly for about 30 minutes. He was blown away. I would just say bet big or bet small and never bothered to explain it. He had one of his best gambling nights ever. Meanwhile nothing looked that good on the Roulette wheel. It was funny.  I tried to tell him but he just could not believe it. People started looking at me like what the heck is going on.  I don't like Blackjack. It depends on what the players play. Craps is more or less randomness. If there was a shooter I would just see it as a trend.
Reading Randomness is a single thread. It is backed up by a software instruction thread and software download threads. The Even Chance Pro 1.4 version is the best version to practice on.
gamblingforums dot com/threads/reading-randomness.14733/

Moxy

Quote from: gizmotron2 on Jun 15, 12:30 PM 2020
I was with a friend at a casino once that liked to play Blackjack. The table he was at was right next to a Roulette wheel that I was also tracking. So I was standing next to him on a crowded Blackjack table watching him and the wheel at the same time. I noticed that he would win two bets and lose one bet in a perfect sequence after a while. So I told him when to bet big and when to bet the minimum. It worked perfectly for about 30 minutes. He was blown away. I would just say bet big or bet small and never bothered to explain it. He had one of his best gambling nights ever. Meanwhile nothing looked that good on the Roulette wheel. It was funny.  I tried to tell him but he just could not believe it. People started looking at me like what the heck is going on.  I don't like Blackjack. It depends on what the players play. Craps is more or less randomness. If there was a shooter I would just see it as a trend.

Tom Cruise and Dustin Hoffman ain't got jack on you two.

pepper

Hi Gizmotron2,   

In 150 spins, an american wheel will produce about 4 more greens (zeros) than a european wheel. Shouldn't you shift your aim from +3 units to +6 or +7 if you play european roulette?

I understand you can have your own reasons to keep the goalpost at +3. Maybe it is just your habit and you prefer to do it this way. Maybe it is a self control thing; maybe you just believe that the probabilities don't matter much, especially since you have your own groupings that include zeros.

What about if you play using the french version (half-back rule) on even chances? Would you suggest to move the goalposts then, at least for the times you hit an even chance bet?

gizmotron2

Quote from: pepper on Jun 16, 08:09 AM 2020I understand you can have your own reasons to keep the goalpost at +3.
I have a reason to ignore the odds. It's like a small tax for winning.  I want my income so I must pay my tax. You would not quit your job because you must pay a tax would you? I picked three net wins because of the very small size of the waves in the up & down graphs.

I watch for swarms of zeros. When they happen I use the sets that have zeros in them when that happens. You can see them very quickly if you chart in order to see them very quickly.


W | B  R | O  E | L  H | 0  6 | P | S |  --  SN  --  SP
nb|    X | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  161  --  03
nb|    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  162  --  12
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nb|    X | X    | X    | X    |   |   |  --  166  --  09
nb| X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  167  --  24
nb| X    |    X | X    | X    |   | X |  --  168  --  10
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nb|    X |    X |    X | X    |   | X |  --  174  --  30
nb|--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  175  --  37
nb|    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  176  --  12
nb| X    | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  177  --  11
nb| X    | X    | X    |    X | X | X |  --  178  --  11
nb|--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  179  --  37
nb|    X |    X |    X |    X | X | X |  --  180  --  32
nb|    X | X    |    X |    X |   |   |  --  181  --  19
nb| X    |    X |    X |    X |   | X |  --  182  --  22
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nb| X    | X    | X    |    X |   | X |  --  184  --  15
nb|    X |    X |    X |    X | X | X |  --  185  --  32
nb| X    | X    |    X |    X | X | X |  --  186  --  31
nb|    X | X    | X    | X    | X |   |  --  187  --  01
nb| X    | X    | X    | X    |   | X |  --  188  --  13
nb|    X | X    |    X | X    | X |   |  --  189  --  27
nb| X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  190  --  29
nb|    X | X    |    X | X    |   | X |  --  191  --  25
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nb| X    | X    |    X |    X | X | X |  --  195  --  31
nb|--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  196  --  37
nb| X    |    X | X    |    X | X |   |  --  197  --  06
nb|--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  198  --  37
nb|--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  199  --  37
nb| X    | X    |    X |    X | X | X |  --  200  --  31
nb|    X | X    | X    |    X | X |   |  --  201  --  03
nb| X    |    X |    X | X    |   |   |  --  202  --  26
nb|--------------------| X    | X | X |  --  203  --  37
nb| X    | X    |    X | X    |   |   |  --  204  --  29
nb|    X |    X | X    |    X | X | X |  --  205  --  12



Can you see them?

My live play charts or designed to let me see characteristics faster than any of the very lame charts that other players use. I was gifted by God to do it this way. I shared it with the world because it makes sense to share to with the world. I generally like people, especially those that appear to have worked hard to figure things out, including how life works.  But as we all know we have zeros there too. I have even discovered that there are zeros masquerader as Christians among their groupings too. What can you say? People are what they are.  That thing about the truth setting you free. I have discovered that I'm not so much in a hurry to correct anyone else or to categorize them or their failings using the bible as a weapon.  It's none of my fvcking business really. If a person wants to be a stupid sh't then I'm happy enough to let them be. I can't change anyone. It's a royal pain in the asteroids to try. There is someone that does that job nicely and he has it all worked out. So, I'm not really concerned about the zeros. It's just one or two more slots on what is otherwise my own personal ATM machine.
Reading Randomness is a single thread. It is backed up by a software instruction thread and software download threads. The Even Chance Pro 1.4 version is the best version to practice on.
gamblingforums dot com/threads/reading-randomness.14733/

pepper

Is a swarm a group or groups hitting in a series, like r,r,r,b,b,b? Sometimes I see things go into a working state, like a domination of groups hitting as singles, like x,000,x,00, then I wait for it to hit as a series, like x,000,x,00,xx,0,x, bet 0. I'm I close to understanding any of your teachings at all?

I spend a lot of my freetime on my own robotic type of bet, instead of learning from your gamblingforum thread. I know of no logical reason why a sequence wouldn't appear as often as any, but from my research, this appears to be the case. Also, I hate all progression.

According to the bible, we aren't suppossed to pass judgement on others. Also, we aren't suppossed to engage in spiritualism, which is what precog could include. Imo, you can't put limits and rules in stone when it comes to God. I believe He can even guide someone on a temporary path of Satanism just to discover the truth.

In the bible, Jesus breaks the sabbath to engage in the greater good of healing someone, so could we break commandments to achieve a greater good?

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