Trump or Biden, who would you vote and why?

[Roulettebeater]

You're too slow to understand its not politics.

Vote Biden 

Not politics ? What then ... Whataboutism?
Right ?

[huskerdu]

In the attachment , there are the wars during  USA president's services of the last 40 years .
Those are wars that  USA caused or offensively  involved in.
Trump was the first that caused no war!!
To whoever cares about peace....
I think,  even if Trump is insane, he doesn't belong to the globalization  system. That's why he is under attack by the  intertwined media system from the early days of his service .

[winforus]

Ozzi, even an idiot with good intentions is better than a group of globalist mass murderers committing blatant treason.

Although I agree with you on a lot of points, what makes you so convinced that Trump has good intentions and that he cares?

To anyone who has a solid understanding of human psychology, it is obvious that he is a narcissist, who only cares about his image. He is a classic example of a grandiose narcissist. Although the media coverage has been unfair and biased against him, he has also been caught in many lies and has dug his own grave to a certain degree. He is also corrupt, just like many other politicians.

Are you familiar with spiral dynamics? You probably are, and imo, he would be somewhere along stage red - with a mix of orange, and pretending to appeal to stage blue (a lot of his voters in USA)

link:s://erickson.edu/sites/default/files/Spiral-Dynamics-Tiers-01_1.png

Imo, it is not so white and black. Having said that - he is the lesser of the two evils

[pepper]

You stupid

This forum is for roulette and not for politics.

This is like when Bernie Sanders spoke negatively against Trump, saying, "doesn't Trump have better things to worry about than the democratic elections." It's stupid. You're not supposed to put everything else off to the side and hyperfocus on one thing. Everyone has to be well rounded and spend time on a multitude of things.

Also, if this is so big, it is important to spread the message and talk about it.

You're telling the owner of this forum what the forum is for. Hahaha.
It's his forum. He can talk about anything he wants and lets anyone else do the same. If you don't like it, go create your own forum.

[pepper]

Defund the police? What will replace them? Martial law?

To be fair, Biden does say that he is against defunding the police. Of coarse, the far left might try to change this or he might be lying. Obviously, politicians blatantly lie, like when Obama was running, he said he was going to pull the troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan.

[Moxy]

Roulettebeater (false advertising), you're stupid. You just dont know it yet. All in time.

Vote Biden.

You put too much stock on this forum.  The fate of the planet is at stake.  Use your influence to do something.  Wtf are we supposed to do on here?  Nod our heads.  Your conviction of claiming the enormity of the situation does not match your effort. 

No one knows wtf you know and it will stay that way except for in this forum.
Or you care more about being right then the consequence itself?  Like, it's just a game, if you will.

[pepper]

You put too much stock on this forum.  The fate of the planet is at stake.  Use your influence to do something.  Wtf are we supposed to do on here?  Nod our heads.  Your conviction of claiming the enormity of the situation does not match your effort.

No one knows wtf you know and it will stay that way except for in this forum.
Or you care more about being right then the consequence itself?  Like, it's just a game, if you will.

Nothing against Steve, but I don't think his influence is all that great. What can he do that you can't? It's easy to say this person should do this and that, but what about yourself?

I don't know if my reply is valid, because it actually depends on how you interpret what you're saying Moxy.

[Moxy]

Nothing against Steve, but I don't think his influence is all that great. What can he do that you can't? It's easy to say this person should do this and that, but what about yourself?

I don't know if my reply is valid, because it actually depends on how you interpret what you're saying Moxy.

I put stock in what Steve says.  But I also expect people who make grand statements about our lives being altered to that extent to make some waves. 

Like in the movie "Knowing" where Nicholas Cage took it upon himself to warn of impending catastrophes he predicted from a cryptographic sheet of paper only to fail time and again but at least he tried.

Just had this idea: create a website and then buy some ads to get traffic to that website.  He's got enough in the think tank to fill a page I presume what with his Coronavirus threaf posts.

[Steve]

Wow you guus watch a lot of cnn, and dont do proper research. Thats why you really don't know.

Nobody can influence sleeping people.

[Moxy]

Wow you guus watch a lot of cnn, and dont do proper research. Thats why you really don't know.

Nobody can influence sleeping people.

Well that includes the millions of other Americans I guess cause Biden seems to have the lead in the prelim polls.

[Steve]

Yes the US people keep electing the same shit, and wonder why the country is messed up. But to be fair, other countries are the same. Because so far only the minority are awake and have brains.

Trump isn't bright, but he's one on the few that isnt part of the group. Another was JFK.

[Moxy]

Yes the US people keep electing the same shit, and wonder why the country is messed up. But to be fair, other countries are the same. Because so far only the minority are awake and have brains.

Trump isn't bright, but he's one on the few that isnt part of the group. Another was JFK.

I've lost faith in the two party system we have a long time ago.  Most of the liberals and conservatives just toe the line of their party to just fit in with the in-group.  No one really shakes things up or cares.

But, start from the beginning of what you really think of the zeitgeist of American+world politics in a mini-thesis, if you will.

I don't watch or read politics or take sides but I can try to gain some critical thought from a less political (and more human-centered) point of view such as yourself.

[Bigbroben]

In the attachment , there are the wars during  USA president's services of the last 40 years .
Those are wars that  USA caused or offensively  involved in.
Trump was the first that caused no war!!
To whoever cares about peace....

Ended the endless wars: retreating troops from Lybia, Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan.

[Bigbroben]

Well that includes the millions of other Americans I guess cause Biden seems to have the lead in the prelim polls.

That's the point: ''seems'' to have the lead.  I would not trust poll results that are presented on TV.  Probably biased as hell.

Look at how many people showed up at Trump's rallies.  Even more people now, as it starts over again in Oklahoma.  1 million wanted to book, 5 millions watched live.  Yet medias telling ''oh there were empty seats''.
I bet if Biden tried to start rallies, the faggot wouldn't fill a room, just like it happened in the winter.  Now they're throwing the idea that we should ''rethink'' debates.  Obviously this would equate to a goat confronting a lion.  No chance for Ds.  Would love to see this though.
So meh, cancel debates, meh, push vote-by-mail: the only way not to lose for Ds is to cheat.  In the meantime they lose face every time they're trying something.
I mean, how can you come up with the idea of vote by mail?!? In Canada, and probably in most countries, one has to show ID to go voting, to make sure it's all fair.  Trump now talks of voter ID, Ds say it's a racist idea.  Who wants fairness now?

Trump in a landslide.  My guess: 60+% in November

[Moxy]

That's the point: ''seems'' to have the lead.  I would not trust poll results that are presented on TV.  Probably biased as hell.

Look at how many people showed up at Trump's rallies.  Even more people now, as it starts over again in Oklahoma.  1 million wanted to book, 5 millions watched live.  Yet medias telling ''oh there were empty seats''.
I bet if Biden tried to start rallies, the faggot wouldn't fill a room, just like it happened in the winter.  Now they're throwing the idea that we should ''rethink'' debates.  Obviously this would equate to a goat confronting a lion.  No chance for Ds.  Would love to see this though.
So meh, cancel debates, meh, push vote-by-mail: the only way not to lose for Ds is to cheat.  In the meantime they lose face every time they're trying something.
I mean, how can you come up with the idea of vote by mail?!? In Canada, and probably in most countries, one has to show ID to go voting, to make sure it's all fair.  Trump now talks of voter ID, Ds say it's a racist idea.  Who wants fairness now?

Trump in a landslide.  My guess: 60+% in November

You can keep toeing the line of your party if you want but I don't really give two hoots about Biden nor Trump and couldn't care less about petty politics.

Steve's take has kind of crept into my wheel house and I'm hoping his impartiality stays on the up and up.