Trump or Biden, who would you vote and why?

[Moxy]

See my comments below with >>>>>>>>>


I wish I had more time to tear his crap apart, but anyone with basic knowledge can. America and the world is under attack from globalist elite, of which Biden is a part of. That includes Obama, Hillary Clinton, Bush (both of them), Bill Clinton etc,  (oh look, it runs in the FAMILY) most of the media, the list goes on.  A vote for Biden is literally a vote for chaos, then even worse slavery. But they are mostly "frontmen". The real people behind it are rarely seen.

David Icke is knee deep in this sort of stuff and with conviction apparently.  I'm going to read up on him first.  You seem to be toeing the party line as well and just preaching to the choir here.

[Steve]

1. Agreeing is not toeing the line. I'm one of the people with my own brain.

2. Half the people aren't in the choir.

3. David Icke comes across as a nutcase. Still I agree with him on about 95% of things. That's roughly the same as what people like Alex Jones say.

I agree with about 80% of what Fox news says.

That's in stark contrast to almost everything CNN says about these issues being manipulative biased bullshit.

[Moxy]

1. Agreeing is not toeing the line. I'm one of the people with my own brain.

2. Half the people aren't in the choir.

3. David Icke comes across as a nutcase. Still I agree with him on about 95% of things. That's roughly the same as what people like Alex Jones say.

I agree with about 80% of what Fox news says.

That's in stark contrast to almost everything CNN says about these issues being manipulative biased bullshit.

Alex Jones has admitted to embellishing and lying about Sandy Hook and Pizzagate and such to some extent.  He knows he full of shit. 

David Icke is either cuckoo for cocoa puffs or he has a specific key to all this, reptilians aside.

[Steve]

You watch too much cnn, who perpetuate blatant lies daily. Internationally. Maliciously. Literally all the important stuff is treasonous.

Alex being wrong about 5% doesnt change the 95%. Who's ever 100% right?

And if you knew better, you'd understand most of what David says is spot on.

[Moxy]

You watch too much cnn, who perpetuate blatant lies daily. Internationally. Maliciously. Literally all the important stuff is treasonous.

Alex being wrong about 5% doesnt change the 95%. Who's ever 100% right?

And if you knew better, you'd understand most of what David says is spot on.

I reiterated time and again I don't watch MSM period.  They're made for TV controlled opposition.  And I said believe in Icke whereas Jones is a fundamentalist kook.  How could one listen to him when he is oblivious to the biggest conspiracy of them all which is religion which he dearly adheres to.  The irony.

[Steve]

You do realize that most of the world believes in a god, and even judges and presidents swear on the bible, right?

Religion is neither bad or wrong. The message from Jesus, whether or not he was real, is accurate. But the message is corrupted.

So don't blame Alex for those beliefs.

You're probably more likely to criticize Alex than Obama, Bush, Clinton etc

You've really got no idea what's going on. But you're not alone. Good luck.

[Steve]

And did you know Clinton,Bush and that whole side are literally Satanic. I mean literally they worship Satan. You know, the bad guy in the bible.

Its really interesting. I wonder what they know that we dont.

[Moxy]

And did you know Clinton,Bush and that whole side are literally Satanic. I mean literally they worship Satan. You know, the bad guy in the bible.

Its really interesting. I wonder what they know that we dont.

Being a pedophile (Clinton, Trump, Epstein, Lolita Island) is what gets me.  Worshipping Satan is low brow and kind of preposterous.  Also, remember when Trump would sneak into the Miss Teen USA's dressing room to take a peak which was the reason he owned those pageants.  Straight from the horse's mouth.  They're all complicit.

[Steve]

Worshipping Satan is low brow and kind of preposterous.

If you mean it's not true, well truth really is stranger than fiction. Do proper research.  Its a big tangled web, but i mean literally they are satanic.

And trump was a billionaire playboy who loves women. That's a big difference to a pedophile.

[Steve]

Also i dont think trump is paedophile. I believe he was at one point behaving inappropriately to women. But again thats nothing like the paedophiles

[Steve]

Ozzi, I'm not allowing that bullshit propaganda. You'd need to be super thick to believe it. Stop believing the bullshit you're fed. Actually do some digging.

There's a lot more.

[Moxy]

Also i dont think trump is paedophile. I believe he was at one point behaving inappropriately to women. But again thats nothing like the paedophiles

Just speaking facts.  He was quoted (or even recorded) cavalierly saying that about his 17 & under pageants.  No dog in this fight.  Obama was a exposed for a moderate shill puppet through and through and might even ordered drone strikes on innocent people.

But being mass murderers, both Bush's might take the cake over everything else.   So joining bizarre cults would not be beneath them.

[Moxy]

 

You do realize that most of the world believes in a god, and even judges and presidents swear on the bible, right?

Religion is neither bad or wrong. The message from Jesus, whether or not he was real, is accurate. But the message is corrupted.

So don't blame Alex for those beliefs.

You're probably more likely to criticize Alex than Obama, Bush, Clinton etc

You've really got no idea what's going on. But you're not alone. Good luck.

Religion is tribal by nature and pits conflict against one another e.g. Muslim vs Christianity for millennia.   It also delegates who gets into "heaven" and who doesn't.  Don't even get me started with the 72 virgins in heaven in the Islamic faith for blowing up infidels i.e. innocent people.  Or vice versa with the Christian right-wing mistaken-identity killings of peaceful Sikhs inside American border.  Religion is a scourge.   More bad than good.

The rest of the world has to catch up and join the secular humanist movement.  I am guilty too.

[Moxy]

You do realize that most of the world believes in a god, and even judges and presidents swear on the bible, right?

Religion is neither bad or wrong. The message from Jesus, whether or not he was real, is accurate. But the message is corrupted.

So don't blame Alex for those beliefs.

You're probably more likely to criticize Alex than Obama, Bush, Clinton etc

You've really got no idea what's going on. But you're not alone. Good luck.

I'm a fan of Jesus, don't get me wrong.  It's religion that irks me. 

Your are correct about Alex.  He's a nutcase but you can't really pin anything egregiously criminal on him. 

He would qualify as a typical innocent bystander, as compared to the recent group of presidents we've had to endure, who just happens to spew a good amount of partisan diatribe. 

[gizmotron2]

Religion is tribal by nature and pits conflict against one another e.g. Muslim vs Christianity for millennia. 

Sorry but I must disagree. It's not one religion against another. It's God against all mankind. All the religions are fake. But only God provides the one thing that makes the difference. We are all vessels designed to be filled by the Holy Spirit.  All the bullcrap good that people do trying to save themselves by living their impressions of piety all adds up to just junk between themselves and what actually works. Mankind is meant to screw it all up and to get faked out. It all comes with the territory of free choice.  Only God can fill that void, that empty space where the Holy Spirit must go. Without that Spirit there is no transformation. I'm talking about religious bull sh*t that people grasp onto in order to attempt to save themselves and others. They even go as far as making themselves into theocracies of torment. People love power and control in order to achieve happiness. It's like blinders to prevent a person from seeking the only thing that works. It's not about being so good that you shine in your spandex holiness. It's all about being set free from the one thing that screws everything up. Your own human nature is your very worst religious enemy. I could care less what religion of the world thinks it has the mandates to save the world. It's all bullsh^t. Religion is a trap that snare a person and allows them to try to save themselves. Only God offers the escape. He sent the manual on how to do that 2000 years ago. He presented it as a living person in first person. But it's that Holy Spirit that comes to dwell inside of you that takes the blinders off. Do that and you are sitting pretty. Don't do that and you fall for all the bullcrap that arguing over religion brings with it, including wars. The world is a joke because most people of it do not get it. They say that 70% of the world believes in a God or supreme being. That's not enough. It takes getting filled with the Holy Spirit. There are fake prophets that try to impress people. But they don't know the secrets set forth by that transformation process provided by God. It's God's planet, creation, will, and judgment. Take it up with him. I believe that all mankind will at some point do that. Meanwhile I do not give a rat's ass what you do with your life. Throw it away, con people that you are a spiritual guru, tell others how to live by attempting to fill in that gap where the Holy Spirit was made to go. Planet earth is a single activity processing machine. You get the Holy Spirit or you don't. After that you get what you get.  I do enjoy the crash test dummies though. They barge ahead with no doubt that God does not exist. Good for them. At least they are not trying to fool anyone how good they are. It's a wacky planet.