Let's get this correct

[cht]

Hi Cht,,,  I want to play 6 numbers continuously,,, double street... After win I need  to change  street,,,  as  per  your knowledge,,,  how many spins  data  is better  to choose  one double  street,,, and what  parameters I can choose to select one double street,,,  a double  street can be  hot,,  or medium hot or  cold,  mean no  hit etc,,,

Your question is a little outside the scope of this thread.

However, I will answer your question in the context of math that Joe has written on the other thread.

Whatever numbers we place bet, we call it event A.
Whatever numbers we don't place bet we call it event B.

Where events A and B are equal and opposite.

To win event A must hit at a rate higher than event B itlr.

If you bet one double streetX, then over the long run double street must hit higher rate than the odds.

For example in 37spins it must hit higher than 6 times itlr.

Base on the math, the long run hit rate is 6 for each cycle giving a no win no loss situation. While you pay House Edge tax for every spin betted.

So to win betting one double street, there must be compelling reason why it hits higher than odds.

We have to assume future spins are independent and unbiased always.

Until and unless you possess evidence that says otherwise.

Do you have evidence that show event A hits higher rate than event B?

Where events A and B are equal and opposite.
It's much better when there's plausible science and/or math basis.

[cht]

I explained on the other thread that hot or cold is a count made on history spins.

Hot numbers were hot in history spins.
Cold numbers were cold in history spins.
There's no science nor math that says hot numbers remain hot or cold numbers remain cold in future spins vv.

We are betting on future spins.

Assuming independent and unbiased spins, there are neither hot nor cold numbers itlr.

[Person S]

Do you have evidence that show event A hits higher rate than event B?

Let event A be RRR.
Event B (consists of 2 combinations) - RRB / RBR.
The output event B will appear at 75%. But this alone cannot help ...

[Person S]

Error, event B consists of 3 combinations - RBR / RRB / RBB

[Kattila]

CHT,  still waiting for your answer to  my  reply ( 17).
And did you abandoned the  Vdw/Arithmetic Progression/ Couplets stuff ? ( for example the Wiggy way).

[cht]

Quote :
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Let's take this example, there are 18uniques without repeats
We can assume there won't be 18 uniques in the next 18spins.
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Same this ( why only LOTT ? ) ,
.......... there are 18uniques without repeats,
Order them into ababababababababab  or  aabbaabbaa...................
or  abcabcabcabc...........or  aabbccaabbcc.................
We can assume there won t  last in the same order /positions for the next   xx spins,
even if new  numbers hit ( and order them in same order)
Disorder (mix ) is around the corner......

As I responded to Joe's post.
I gave that example to show the type of thinking.

Waiting for 18hits with no repeats will not give any advantage, still a no win nor loss bet.

Same as waiting for 10reds series.

Triggers will not change this independent nature of roulette spins.

When you put everything together you will find that all these ideas posted on forum will not change anything. Betselection remains not winner nor loser.

[cht]

And did you abandoned the  Vdw/Arithmetic Progression/ Couplets stuff ? ( for example the Wiggy way).

Vdw requires a complicated count that's not possible for real play in b&m casino.

[cht]

Here's how casinos cheat.

2types of cheat.

First is when you bet red dealer press some buttons ball lands on black.
This happens with rogue casinos with blatant low class cheat.

The real cheat casinos are top notch professionals in this business.

They refine their spins that your betselection no matter what they are will always show up balanced with no win and no loss.  Winners and losers are temporary and unpredictable.

All the players will "lose" to the house edge tax.

This way the mathboyz as usual do the dirty job pointing to the random nature of spins that's independent and unbiased. Bla bla bla....... Players, mathboyz, naysayers, smarties, marketers, scammers all in this mix fighting each other with own agenda.

Casino is the winner. 😂

[precogmiles]

All the players will "lose" to the house edge tax.

Really?

[Blueprint]

Vdw requires a complicated count that's not possible for real play in b&m casino.

Doesn’t do a thing - complicated or not. It’s basically a bet on the dominant.  Been saying that for years but people keep chasing their own tails. 

[cht]

Really?

Read what ati wrote.

That changes everything and the expected value becomes zero, therefore the bet is not a losing bet.

However if you add the zero, your constant bet of 2,3,13,26,36 is a losing bet. You bet on these same numbers an infinite number of times, the result will be infinite loss.

This is the math.

I know it's hard to accept, it's what it is.

All the fancy bets posted on forums are the same.

All the gurus betselection are no different from Ignatus betselection.

No different from those uncles and aunties who betted their superstitious favourite numbers.

No different from those who rain chips on the carpet.

The real professional math wizards are paid by the casino to make sure the wheels spit out "random" spins that are independent and unbiased. These professionals ensure that the end result is always balanced at no win or loss betselection. Player pays house edge tax.

[winforus]

What about reading randomness?
Can it’s bet selections beat the casino?

[gizmotron2]

Can it’s bet selections beat the casino?

Please at least get it right. Can its use of win streaks beat the casino.

[cht]

What about reading randomness?
Can it’s bet selections beat the casino?

Taking this statement on face value, "reading randomness" is oxymoron.

Talking about streaks, I take it to mean trend or continuous series. Eg. continuous series of reds.

First we have to define what a streak means. We don't know a streak of reds until we see one. We don't know when it ends.

Unless we can predict either,

1. When a streak start, or
2. When a streak end

With accuracy better than expected probability.

I classify this kind of play under precognition with or without aid.

If the player possesses this kind of special ability then yes the betselection may have a positive edge. The professional math wizards cannot protect the casino's assets against such players. Ban is their only recourse.

***I am not endorsing precognition. I have no idea about it. I wrote the above based on the assumption that it works as precogman claimed on this forum. ***

[cht]

Lets move this discussion forward.

I bring to your attention the table limits.

If this game is played without table max limit, a simple martingale progression beats this game.

To say that negative progression is a loser is wrong. Martingale is a loser is wrong.

The imposed table max limit prevents negative progressions from winning.

Some of you know this,

BUT do you understand fully what this actually means ?

If the variance of random spins has no limit as the math says then table limit is not necessary.
How often such no limit spin series occur is important.

The question then comes down to how much risk the casino chose to expose their business to.
The argument the casinos use for table limits is their risk tolerance policy.
Their financial backers need this assurance hence the business model as we see it.