MEISEL'S LAW OF THE 2ND THIRD

[Richard Meisel]

MEISEL’S LAW OF THE 2ND THIRD
   I put my name on this because I believe I discovered this a few days ago. Please pardon the ego. I like AYK’S TRACKER a lot and have been using it for different evaluations. A couple of days I ago I was wondering about the 37 Spin count and adding 18 Bets until it becomes a 55 Spin count. His TRACKER allows an automatic 37 or 50 or 100 or 200 spins. You can also import from Random.org.
   So i pressed his automatic 50 button and added 5 random of my own. I received the numbers 17-16-29-0-29-28-28-11-20-8-34-28-18-19-32-23-21-14-2-13-0-29-29-36-8-11-19-4-11-33-5-18-13-22-4-30-28 (37)
-18-22-5-26-5-26-35-6-26-0-29-8-14-8-18-27-31-9 (55)
   I looked at the 55 Spin chart and saw that there were 8 unhits, 16 uniques, and 13 repeaters.
   I undid the last 18 Bets and looked at the 37 Spin chart and saw there were 14 unhits, 14 uniques, and 9 repeaters. (By the way some people that use the Law Of The Third like 12-12-12, someone named Winkle likes 14/15-14/15-8/9, others like 15-14-8. I personally like 14-14-9[6 triples & 3 doubles] on the European Wheel and 15-14-9[6 triples & 3 doubles] on the American Wheel).
   I looked at the difference between the 55 Spin and the 37 Spin charts and saw the difference was -6/+2/+4. I then calculated a whole lot of comparisons between the 2 and came up with an average of -5/-1.7/+7.
   This is now MEISEL’S LAW OF THE 2ND THIRD: -5 unhits, -1.7 uniques, and +7 repeaters. WOW! I noticed that many times the uniques were near 0 and 1. That means after 37 Spins you just Bet on the UNHITS and the REPEATERS! as the uniques won’t change very much.
   Now I prefer an 18 or 19 number bet. On an American Wheel a 19 number Bet is slightly better than an 18 or 20 number Bet. Proof:
20 #s   W20   L18   52.6%   47.4%            5% chance of Winning over Losing       52.6% of Winning 16 = 8.42
   W35 -19 = W16   L20      need   1.3 Wins
   W20x16=320   L18x20=360 = -40            

19 #s   W19   L19   50%   50%            0% chance of Winning over Losing       50% of Winning 17 = 8.5
   W35 -18 = W17   L19      need   1.1 Wins
   W19x17=323   L19x19=361 = -38            

18 #s   W18   L20   47%   53%            -6% chance of Winning over Losing    47% of Winning 18 = 8.46
   W35 -17 = W18   L18      need   1 Wins
   W18x18=324   L20x18=360 = -36

   So all my 18 Bets are given below. After every winning Bet, you delete that number from your Bet. After every Bet you can mark what happened, The choices are (1) unhit now a unique (2) unique now a single (3) single now a double, a repeater (4) double now a triple (5) triple now a quad, etc.
   When your Bets go below 20 or 19, ADD A UNIQUE.
   You will see in this example I Won 11 and Lost 7.
   11 Wins = 17-17-17-18-19-18-18-18-18-18-18 = 196
   7 Losses = 20-20-19-20-18-18-18 = 133   Total = 63
   That is $63 in 18 Bets. Now I Bet $5 per unit so that is $315 in 18 Bets.
      Here is my example. You might have to download it and straighten out the columns.

After 37 Spins   14-14-9
Predicting next 18 Bets = (-5/-1.7 /+7)
Predicting after 55Bets = 9-12-16

Now       14unhits-14uniques-9repeaters(3 3 or more/6 doubles)
Just Bet on 14unhits and 6doubles   (20#s, which 18#s?)
Just Bet on 14unhits 1-3-6-7-9-10-12-15-24-25-26-27-31-35 & 6doubles 0-4-8-13-18-19
Bet on 1-3-6-7-9-10-12-15-24-25-26-27-31-35 & 0-4-8-13-19 (20#s)
38. 18 Win (double now a triple)      still 14-14-9   Bet on 1-3-6-7-9-10-12-15-24-25-26-27-31-35 & 0-4-8-13-19 (19#s)
39. 22 Lose (unique now a double) +     now 14-13-10 Bet on 1-3-6-7-9-10-12-15-24-25-26-27-31-35 & 0-4-8-13-19-22 (20#s)
40.   5 Lose (unique now a repeater)     now 14-12-11 Bet on 1-3-6-7-9-10-12-15-24-25-26-27-31-35 & 0-4-8-13-19-22 (20#s)
41. 26 Win (unhit now a unique)     now 13-13-11 Bet on 1-3-6-7-9-10-12-15-24-25-27-31-35 & 0-4-8-13-19-22 (19#s)
42.   5 Lose (double now a triple)          still 13-13-11 Bet on 1-3-6-7-9-10-12-15-24-25-27-31-35 & 0-4-8-13-19-22 (19#s)
43. 26 Lose (unique now a double) +     now 13-12-12 Bet on 1-3-6-7-9-10-12-15-24-25-27-31-35 & 0-4-8-13-19-22-26 (20#s)
44. 35 Win (unhit now a unique)     now 12-13-12 Bet on 1-3-6-7-9-10-12-15-24-25-27-31 & 0-4-8-13-19-22-26 (19#s)
45.   6 Win (unhit now a unique)     now 11-14-12 Bet on 1-3-7-9-10-12-15-24-25-27-31 & 0-4-8-13-19-22-26 (18#s)
46. 26 Win (double now a triple) -      still 11-14-12 Bet on 1-3-7-9-10-12-15-24-25-27-31 & 0-4-8-13-19-22 (17#s)
47.   0 Win (double now a triple) -      still 11-14-12 Bet on 1-3-7-9-10-12-15-24-25-27-31 & 4-8-13-19-22 (18#s) add 2 singles 2/14
48. 29 Lose (quad now 1 quint)      still 11-14-12 Bet on 1-3-7-9-10-12-15-24-25-27-31 & 4-8-13-19-22 (18#s) add 2 singles 2/14
49.   8 Win (double now a triple) -      still 11-14-12 Bet on 1-3-7-9-10-12-15-24-25-27-31 & 8-13-19-22 (18#s) add 3 singles 2/14/16
50. 14 Win (single now a double)     now 11-13-13 Bet on 1-3-7-9-10-12-15-24-25-27-31 & 8-13-19-22 (18#s) add 3 singles 2/16/17
51.   8 Lose (triple now a quad)      still 11-13-13 Bet on 1-3-7-9-10-12-15-24-25-27-31 & 8-13-19-22 (18#s) add 3 singles 2/16/17
52. 18 Lose (triple now a quad)      still 11-13-13 Bet on 1-3-7-9-10-12-15-24-25-27-31 & 8-13-19-22 (18#s) add 3 singles 2/16/17
53. 27 Win (unhit now a unique)     now 10-14-13 Bet on 1-3-7-9-10-12-15-24-25-31 & 8-13-19-22 (18#s) add 4 singles 2/16/17/20
54. 31 Win (unique now a single)       now 9-15-13 Bet on 1-3-7-9-10-12-15-24-25 & 8-13-19-22 (18#s) add 5 singles 2/16/17/20/21
55.  9 Win (unhit now a unique)       now 8-16-13

LAW OF THE 2ND THIRD = -5 unhits, -1.7 hits, +7 repeaters
This is liable to change when more calculations are made.
This is based on the Law of the Third. I believe this only works for SHORT RUNS. Especially with a Number Generator which after long runs tend to go to a Statistical Balance rather than a curve. I play craps and only played roulette when I had a coupon. But being homebound these days I've been studying roulette for about 9 months, once downloaded a 2200 page article with hundreds of systems. Been all over different forums. My computer now has so many methods to Win at roulette. Many CONVOLUTED strategies involving charts and diagrams and mathematical examples, even some based on logarithms and calculus, some on group recognition, some on LOTT distribution and Markov trends, all trying to find that 1 in 37 or 1 in 38 number that will come up next. This is my try. MEISEL'S LAW OF THE 2ND THIRD.

[Clf7]

Thank you that you are not another "guru" who is posting only riddles

[6th-sense]

The reason the amounts don’t change much or stays stationary Richard is becouse spin 1 departs  And at the same  time spin 37 drops down in the que ..To spin 36
The new spin comes into play at the same time..
Test further you will see your new law doesn’t work ..

[Clf7]

The reason the amounts don’t change much or stays stationary Richard is becouse spin 1 departs  And at the same  time spin 37 drops down in the que ..To spin 36
The new spin comes into play at the same time..
Test further you will see your new law doesn’t work ..

Anyway its always recommended to all members to test any method that they think its interesting first on RX at longterm(=1m spins) before playing with any real money.

[6th-sense]

Richard ..nottys repeat Ayk tracker maybe of more use to you
Here’s the link
link:://ayk.bplaced.net/notto/

[Richard Meisel]

The reason the amounts don’t change much or stays stationary Richard is becouse spin 1 departs  And at the same  time spin 37 drops down in the que ..To spin 36
The new spin comes into play at the same time..
Test further you will see your new law doesn’t work ..

These 2 charts show the 37 spin and the 55 spin. I disagree. This new Law seems to work when the 37 Spin is close to the Law Of The Third (14-14-9) for the European Wheel and (15-14-9) for the American Wheel. If the 37 spin is not close DO NOT BET. Keep a chart with you with 37 or 38 lines and WAIT for a 37 spin real close to the Law Of The Third, and then Bet 17-21 numbers for 18 more spins and STOP. Go to another table or not but rechart again until you're close again. 

[Richard Meisel]

These 2 charts show the 37 spin and the 55 spin. I disagree. This new Law seems to work when the 37 Spin is close to the Law Of The Third (14-14-9) for the European Wheel and (15-14-9) for the American Wheel. If the 37 spin is not close DO NOT BET. Keep a chart with you with 37 or 38 lines and WAIT for a 37 spin real close to the Law Of The Third, and then Bet 17-21 numbers (just the UNHITS and REPEATERS) for 18 more spins and STOP. Go to another table or not but re-chart again until you're close again.

[Clf7]

Meisel your method must go first through RX to say that it is a longterm winner, otherwise its more of a feeling.

[Richard Meisel]

Richard ..nottys repeat Ayk tracker maybe of more use to you
Here’s the link
link:://ayk.bplaced.net/notto/

Hi, 6th. Thank you for the Notto Style RYK Tracker. I just downloaded and reviewed it. It is probably useless for me. It tracks the first 10 spins and then the Wins/Losses are all on the unhits. I wouldn't recommend betting on just the unhits. I bet on ALL the unhits and repeaters ONLY, I repeat ONLY, when the first 37 spins are very close to 14-14-9 on the European Wheel and 15-14-9 on the American Wheel. If the unhits, uniques, and repeaters are not close to the expected Law of the Third, DO NOT BET. Keep a chart with 37 or 38 lines and mark any 37 consecutive spins. When it gets close, Bet 17-20 numbers, ONLY the unhits and repeaters, for just 18 spins and STOP. Go to another table or whatever and mark again until you find another 37 spin close to the Law of the Third.
My friend 6th, if you want to help me, then do a high calculation on the difference between the 55 spin and the 37th spin. It would refine my calculation of the 2ND THIRD. I figured the LAW OF THE 2ND THIRD to be -5 unhits, -1,7 uniques, and +7 repeaters.
You get the first try because you are a nice guy. It took a long time for me to be a nice guy.   

[Richard Meisel]

Meisel your method must go first through RX to say that it is a longterm winner, otherwise its more of a feeling.

Hi, CLF7, my friend. Please don't misquote me. I never said this method was a "longterm winner". You must have misread my posts or you couldn't wait to reply. I do believe it Wins in the SHORT run. I've never found any system of roulette that Wins in the long run.
   As for doing RX Coding especially with Extreme Roulette, no thank you. I don't trust any number generator; they all tend after a very long run to generate a Statistical Balance instead of a curve. I wish I had St. Germain's book of real life Roulette Spins. I do have his book on 35,000+ dice rolls.
  Also telling me that it is a "feeling" is wrong. If you want to put your trust in RX Coding, it's ok, but I would suggest you stick to SHORT runs rather than LONG runs.
   Because of 1 in 37 and 1 in 38, EVERY system will eventually fail in "longterm" RX Coding. Unless you can predict the future.

[6th-sense]

Hi, 6th. Thank you for the Notto Style RYK Tracker. I just downloaded and reviewed it. It is probably useless for me. It tracks the first 10 spins and then the Wins/Losses are all on the unhits. I wouldn't recommend betting on just the unhits. I bet on ALL the unhits and repeaters ONLY, I repeat ONLY, when the first 37 spins are very close to 14-14-9 on the European Wheel and 15-14-9 on the American Wheel. If the unhits, uniques, and repeaters are not close to the expected Law of the Third, DO NOT BET. Keep a chart with 37 or 38 lines and mark any 37 consecutive spins. When it gets close, Bet 17-20 numbers, ONLY the unhits and repeaters, for just 18 spins and STOP. Go to another table or whatever and mark again until you find another 37 spin close to the Law of the Third.
My friend 6th, if you want to help me, then do a high calculation on the difference between the 55 spin and the 37th spin. It would refine my calculation of the 2ND THIRD. I figured the LAW OF THE 2ND THIRD to be -5 unhits, -1,7 uniques, and +7 repeaters.
You get the first try because you are a nice guy. It took a long time for me to be a nice guy.

Richard ..mottos tracker is just for reference..not bet what he does it’ll show you the unique repeats unhits etc ..set your config to 37 on it as usual until you have the ratio you want on the rolling basis..
When that’s achieved THEN set the config to what you want is it 18 spins extra ? So set to 55 before next spin..
This will keep the numbers you’ve already put in but then turn into a rolling  55 spin..the repeats unhits unique at this point  on nottys tracker will let you gather results quickly..
Not betting using nottys way but actually see what is being hit in those 18 spins..
When done set config back to 37 and it’ll carry on the next spin the last 37 out ..

Makes testing quicker on nottys tracker so you can visually and quickly test your theory and see the counts of the three states up to the 18 spin as it’ll be a static tracker when you set the config to 55
Numbers won’t disappear and be replaced..
Very very easy to visually use nottys tracker instead of mine

[6th-sense]

And on a side note use the screenshot tab to take a picture at 37 ...and one at 55 it’ll save to your pc and keep them to together in a folder ..just make a point of where you save the screenshots.saves writing results down and is very quick ..

[leoncino74]

These 2 charts show the 37 spin and the 55 spin. I disagree. This new Law seems to work when the 37 Spin is close to the Law Of The Third (14-14-9) for the European Wheel and (15-14-9) for the American Wheel. If the 37 spin is not close DO NOT BET. Keep a chart with you with 37 or 38 lines and WAIT for a 37 spin real close to the Law Of The Third, and then Bet 17-21 numbers for 18 more spins and STOP. Go to another table or not but rechart again until you're close again.

and then Bet 17-21 numbers for 18 more spins.... ma 14-14-9 , unhit e repeter  the sum is 14+9 = 25, then why 17 - 21 number?

[Serendipity]

and then Bet 17-21 numbers for 18 more spins.... ma 14-14-9 , unhit e repeter  the sum is 14+9 = 25, then why 17 - 21 number?

Only doubles for repeaters!

[cht]

Unhits must be due.
Repeaters are hot to hit again.

Track against expected hitrate at such and such a spin.

Classic gambler's fallacy. 

I created a thread specially for you.