Try this out

[nottophammer]

The red
The R-sim algo: plays no differently to random.org.
Even the Generals posted 10'330 live spins all make the average.

In 40 spins on R-sim you get +/- 1 or 2 to the average of 16 repeats. @60 spins the average of 29.5; round up 30 of the starting 37 have hit.

The 40&60 spins meets 4 sets of data.

link:s://:.rouletteforum.cc/index.php?topic=20764.0

[nottophammer]

At 30 spins you have 10 repeats. In blocks of 10 spins, repeats average
1-3-5-7 over 40 spins. So, R-sim is +1 on repeats.
At 40 spins, R-sim shows 16 repeats.
At 60 spins you can see 7 of the starting 37 have not hit. That is average for 60 spins, 30 repeats and 30 non-hits.

So, is this a fare 60 spins

[nottophammer]

Those 60 spins betting for red or black. Zigzag-straight

[Nimo]

Variation of the above.

Playing is simple street play.  Progression every 12 spins until, profit then stop and restart.

First loss of 3000 unit bankroll at game 447

[thereddiamanthe]

Notophammer, might be as you say about those distribution parameters,
tough have you ever noticed more than 13 2DZ missing straight in a row (B&M permanences)?
I haven't, & the moment I got to RS not even 1000 spins in, 18.  Eighteen?!

[nottophammer]

This betting for reds/blacks. have a look reddia

[thereddiamanthe]

I know nottop, eventough almost 40% increase on the B&M record is a big too much.
Analogically speaking 18 missing 2DZ - its like safely saying BorR goes missing for ≈30spins+0.4x30 ≈ 42spins. Duh......

So meanwhile the repetear/single distribution might kind of match, the extremes are waaaay to high/prolonged.

[jay]

So if your system can beat RS than you should be alright at B&M, design your system to beat RS
If simple chances can disappear 20+ spins, dozen can go longer

[thereddiamanthe]

So if your system can beat RS than you should be alright at B&M, design your system to beat RS
If simple chances can disappear 20+ spins, dozen can go longer

It pretty hard to beat even B&M sequences consistently,
what point of reference would you take at RS to know when its sufficient enough then?

Besides , the highest B&M records are for
EC     â‰ˆ  30+ spins
1DZ   â‰ˆ 60+ spins
2DZ      13 spins, meaning 1DZ hitting 13 times in a row - duh

[thereddiamanthe]

Nimo, I had a closer look through your strategy - on ST.

The first two major weaknesses are
•  using too many streets at a time
              6 & above the return on hit is to low to have any real impact on balance
              in other words waste of hits
•  once reaching 6,7,8 ST you keep betting all of them + raising the bet value consistently
              thus at a certain point the bets move too high & the balance to low to be able to regain profit
              thus eating up the 3000 bankroll entirely for the reason of hits having little impact,
              even so many consecutive of them




Try this out



Use only 5 ST max - thus even the hit on the 5th spin still gives you +7,
less than 1:1 in the recovery is only slow bleeding out.

Cover the streets as per 5 consecutive spin outcomes on a rolling basis,
adding at each spin one more ST (1+2+3+4+5=15u per revolution max).

On hit restart, next revolution.
Only when all 5 missed add 1u globally on the next revolution (e.g. 2+4+6+8+10=30u).
Same on every missed revolution. Bet that amount till in profit.



In 3625 tested spins the maximum drawdown was ≈600u.
1319 profit.
0.36u/spin

[quos]

Nimo, I had a closer look through your strategy - on ST.

The first two major weaknesses are
•  using too many streets at a time
              6 & above the return on hit is to low to have any real impact on balance
              in other words waste of hits
•  once reaching 6,7,8 ST you keep betting all of them + raising the bet value consistently
              thus at a certain point the bets move too high & the balance to low to be able to regain profit
              thus eating up the 3000 bankroll entirely for the reason of hits having little impact,
              even so many consecutive of them




Try this out



Use only 5 ST max - thus even the hit on the 5th spin still gives you +7,
less than 1:1 in the recovery is only slow bleeding out.

Cover the streets as per 5 consecutive spin outcomes on a rolling basis,
adding at each spin one more ST (1+2+3+4+5=15u per revolution max).

On hit restart, next revolution.
Only when all 5 missed add 1u globally on the next revolution (e.g. 2+4+6+8+10=30u).
Same on every missed revolution. Bet that amount till in profit.



In 3625 tested spins the maximum drawdown was ≈600u.
1319 profit.
0.36u/spin

Could you explain with an example, please?

Thanks in advance!!!

[thereddiamanthe]

No.

What's not clear?

[thereddiamanthe]

Use only 5 ST max - thus even the hit on the 5th spin still gives you +7,
less than 1:1 in the recovery is only slow bleeding out.


STREET BASED â†' BET MAX 5 STREETS !
1 REVOLUTION = 5 SPINS
5 SPINS = 1+2+3+4+5 = 15 UNITS PLACED TROUGH 5 SPINS


bet on the streets as per 5 consecutive spin outcomes on a rolling basis,
adding at each spin one more ST (1+2+3+4+5=15u per revolution max).

1ST BET ON THE LAST SPIN OUTCOME (5 â†' BET 1u on STREET 4,5,6)
2ND BET (23 â†' BET 1u on STREET 22,23,24  +  the â†' above)      -     total this spin 2u, 3u thus far
3RD BET (10 â†' BET 1u on STREET 10,11,12  +  STREET 22,23,24  + STREET 4,5,6)
4TH BET ( â†' BET PREVIOUS AGAIN  OR  PLACE AN ADDITIONAL UNIT ON QUAD 0,1,2,3)
5TH BET (36 â†' BET 5 STREETS  IN TOTAL 34,35,36 + 0,1,2,3,4 + 10,11,12 + 22,23,24 + 4,5,6)

â†'
IF 0 IN THE FIRST THREE BETS
YOU MAY WANNA PLACE THE BET ON QUAD 0,1,2,3,4   OR  IGNORE & REBET
(IN UNITS  =  1+3+4+5+6  OR   1+2+2+3+4+5)
OTHERWISE, ON 4TH OR 5TH SPIN, BET 5 FIVE TIMES BUT WITH LESS THEN 15 UNITS IN TOTAL PER REVOLUTION (1+2+3+4+4  OR  1+2+3+3+4)


On hit restart, next revolution.
Only when all 5 missed add 1u globally on the next revolution (e.g. 2+4+6+8+10=30u).
Same on every missed revolution. Bet that amount till in profit.


EACH HIT, IRREGARDLESS OF BALANCE â†' RESTART THE REVOLUTION, STARTING WITH BETTING 1 STREET AGAIN
ON MISSED REVOLUTION (5 SPINS) RAISE THE UNIT +1   FOR ALL NEXT REVOLUTION BETS, TILL IN PROFIT
2+(2+2)+(2+2+2)+(2+2+2+2)+(2+2+2+2+2) = 2+4+6+8+10 = 30 UNITS FOR NEXT FIVE SPINS

IF IN PROFIT (NEW HIGH) DEGRESS BETS TO 1
IF HIT & NOT IN PROFIT CONTINUE WITH A CURRENT PROGRESSION AMOUNT
IF 5 MISS (1 REVOLUTION) RAISE BET BY +1 EACH TIME •  (DO NOT REGRESS UNLESS ON NEW HIGH)





In 3625 tested spins the maximum drawdown was ≈600u.
1319 profit.
0.36u/spin

Seems pretty straightforward to me.
You might find ways to improve it.

[game over]

Forgive, I don't want to intrude ...
But have you thought that they first have to understand well how things work, in this case randomness, before creating systems of this type?
Although I have to admit that the last answer is more intelligent than the first, they still do not understand correctly what happens, how it happens and of course how to make a progression correctly if you want to do it!
I recently wrote on a topic referring to Mr. Jun, which talks about Mr. Vaddis, it is a very interesting, intelligent and well analyzed reading, in a short sentence, something done correctly, based on deep and analytical study.
If you want my advice, before you start looking for ways to win, you must understand randomness well, what it does and what is more profitable.
In this and another forum, there are still people who share very important experience, with a lot of knowledge and weight to understand what chance does and the ways to take advantage of it.
Try to understand and learn from those great and you knew words of people who have achieved it.
And finally, regarding the last publication of Mr. THEREDDIAMANTHE, just an observation to your publication:
3-4-5 = 12
with this I think I told you something that can make you think!
But even so, without correctly understanding randomness and its behavior, it will be difficult for you to take advantage of it without some crazy progression.

Hector.

[thereddiamanthe]

The written is a basic model. Work it out.

3-4-5=12   I could be guessing all night long at several plausible possibilities, but I want.
Why won't you be direct instead.